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We return a ridiculous number of starters next year against a schedule I would say is more favorable than this year's. I don't see him leaving before next year unless he's asked to go.

^This^

If Kelly can keep a few that can leave early, it will be very helpful when the Irish take on MeeChicken first game.
 

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^This^

If Kelly can keep a few that can leave early, it will be very helpful when the Irish take on MeeChicken first game.

Exactly. Nelson and Adams probably SHOULD go (I rarely feel that way, but in this case...). But keeping ESB, Tillery, Mustipher and other could-go's in the fold next year would help a ton.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wake Forest RB Cade Carney & DB Jessie Bates III will not play Saturday against <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a>. Bates singled out by Brian Kelly earlier today.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/925471781321879552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Probably won't play a major part, but Dortch was their punt returner. Bates was their back up punt returner. Hopefully whoever they put in to return punts muffs one for us.
 

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Where’s Rack ‘Em when you need him

Low hanging fruit. Below him, honestly.

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Notre Dame is number 3 in CFP. This is it boys. Every game is an elimination game. Win or go home.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"This is a team that gets a ton of tackles for loss.” - Brian Kelly on Wake Forest defense<br><br>WF leads the nation in TFL per game at 9.3.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/925393437721055233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I assume this is due to scheme and not copious amounts of athleticism at Wake Forest.

So one would think this also means that when Notre Dame's OL gets to their first-level assignments that either 1) Josh Adams is gone for 70+ yet again, or 2) Stepherson is 5 yards behind the coverage.
 

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Probably won't play a major part, but Dortch was their punt returner. Bates was their back up punt returner. Hopefully whoever they put in to return punts muffs one for us.

Who says ND's gonna punt...?
 

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Walking through the neighborhood with my one year old during trick-or-treat, stopped at a family friend's house.

He said "I hoped I would see you. Want tickets to the game Saturday?"

Uh, hell yeah. He's got season tickets and can't go up to South Bend this weekend. Best trick-or-treat candy I ever got.
 

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Walking through the neighborhood with my one year old during trick-or-treat, stopped at a family friend's house.

He said "I hoped I would see you. Want tickets to the game Saturday?"

Uh, hell yeah. He's got season tickets and can't go up to South Bend this weekend. Best trick-or-treat candy I ever got.
Fo free?
 

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Kelly needs to let these guys try to score and put up as many points as possible we coulda put up 50-60 points on NC State yet we decided to stall the last quarter. That's 2-3 times this year we could have scored on the last drive yet decided to run the clock out. Maybe have some mercy for Navy and Wake, but I would curb stomp Miami and Stanford screw them.
 

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Can't wait for the announcers to talk about WF's punter. His name, Dom Maggio. LOL
 

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2017 Notre Dame advanced statistical profile

After October 28 games in comparison to a few weeks ago, ND's Offense rated by Five Factors from Advanced Statistics :

Efficiency -- 42.7%, ranked 56th (after October 28 games) improved from 42%, 65th
Explosiveness -- 1.39%, ranked 9th, from 1.41%, ranked 8th
Field Position -- 29.0, ranked 82nd, from 29.7, ranked 66th
Finishing Drives -- 5.40, ranked 7th, from 5.49, ranked 4th
Turnover Margin -- 6.4, ranked 11th, from 5.04, ranked 12th

2017 Wake Forest's advanced statistical profile
 
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Finishing Drives -- 5.40, ranked 7th, from 5.49, ranked 4th

Does this take into account our kneeling at the end of the UNC and NCST games in the redzone? I wanted us to score on both anyway, even more so for this stat selfishly.
 

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Walking through the neighborhood with my one-year-old during trick-or-treating, stopped at a family friend's house.

He said "I hoped I would see you. Want tickets to the game Saturday?"

Uh, hell yeah. He's got season tickets and can't go up to South Bend this weekend. Best trick-or-treat candy I ever got.

Not quite game tickets but I went trick or treating with my Irish gear on and my son and I stopped at a house and they said: "Go, Irish - now go in the back of the garage on the counter and grab a shot of Jameson's".

Being an Irish fan has its perks ;)
 

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Does this take into account our kneeling at the end of the UNC and NCST games in the redzone? I wanted us to score on both anyway, even more so for this stat selfishly.

I don't think so. I think he eliminates Garbage time when both teams may have their second strings in because the game is out of reach. No value in measuring those.

Also, for Finishing Drives he measures trips inside the 40 (Source):
If you're a Numerical reader, you know that I enjoy a rather little-used (as in, I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who uses it) stat: points per trip inside the 40. I'm not a big fan of defining only the last 20 yards as the red zone and comparing teams based on their ability to score inside the 20. There's a reason for this: there really isn't a huge range between really good and really bad red zone teams.

Or at least, there's a larger range if you look at the last 40 yards. It better incorporates place-kicking (almost every team should be expected to make a vast majority of its kicks when inside the red zone, even taking into account the general sketchiness of college kickers) and gives us a good read for which teams take advantage of even decent scoring opportunities.

In that way, advanced statistics the way he measures them is preferable to traditional stats.
Redzone Success from cfb stats for NC State has us scoring twice in three attempts.

Considering Field position, fumbles or interceptions significantly impact that and could put you inside the 40.

Bill Connelly's book. Study Hall: College Football, Its Stats and Its Stories
 
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