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Fun fact: "sagging" came about in prisons to ensure easy access to one's backside, whether for consensual prison hookups or prison rape.

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ShaggyBevo was on top of this in their "Ask a black man" thread, now with MS Paint:
Ask a black man.... Now With MS Paint pg. 13

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GoIrish41

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Since it's only been explained 9 times to you, here's a tenth.

Describing LOOTERS and RIOTERS as animals or thugs is not overtly racist. If you want to believe that the words "animal" and "thug" are racist, that's on you. I'm guessing there were some white people rioting and looting, too. The poster called EVERYONE rioting and looting animals and/or thugs.

Meanwhile NJNP said something like "BURN ALL THE COP CARS" and literally called people who disagreed with him racist. There's no room on this board for that. If you don't like it, GTFO. I'm tired of it too. This board was unbearable all of last week because his inflammation bled into every other thread.

Since I didn't buy the explanation the first nine times, why do you think I would buy it the tenth? You are not going to convince me otherwise, so save us both some time and don't make it 11.

I'm certainly not on the same page with calling people to use violence to get anyone's attention, and I have explicity said that I don't condone the looting or any type of behavior that aims to hurt others.
 

GATTACA!

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one of his next posts was 'pants up, don't loot.' just ugly stuff.

ban whomever you want, but there has to be some recognition of the environment in these politics threads. for every reasonable post on either side of the spectrum there are10 that throw out this casual hatred lined w a complete absence of logic or evidence mixed with blatant attempts to antagonize. and then the 15 members furthest to the right cheer each other on and try to outdo each other in how far they can push their comments without explicitly saying something about black people. it's just a strange, toxic atmosphere in there and it seems odd that the 1 guy who was equally far to the left is the one who's no longer on the site.

Mods' explanations make sense, I get that it was the cumulative pattern that got him banned. but if those politics threads are going to be a part of this site then the casual hatred that's tossed around has to be taken seriously.

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I see. So it's referring to the trend of black and white males (I see it from both where I live) to wear their pants around their ankles.

I would say that's worth an infraction. If I had seen it and known what it meant I would have given one. But depends on the context too.

I think that's an important distinction, context is key here. George Carlin pointed out that words, by themselves, are completely neutral. It's the context of the racist bastard using words that really matters. To condemn "animals" for torching a police car should be fine unless the speaker is inferring that black people are animals, which they aren't (Other than for biological/scientific purposes). I think the point is that any human, regardless of color, that torches some cop cars are animals because it's not civilized behavior. I think the same can be said for the word "thug." It has certain connotations when used today, but for years I knew a "thug" as a miscreant that broke the law or caused problems, and someone you wanted to avoid. It wasn't till the Ferguson thread that I found out that thug apparently only refers to black people today.
 

wizards8507

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It wasn't till the Ferguson thread that I found out that thug apparently only refers to black people today.
I think the notion of "thug" as some kind of secret code word for "black people" came from the Richard Sherman so-called controversy around the Super Bowl last year. Democrats accuse Republicans of racism for using the term "food stamps" just about every election cycle.
 

zelezo vlk

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I think the notion of "thug" as some kind of secret code word for "black people" came from the Richard Sherman so-called controversy around the Super Bowl last year. Democrats accuse Republicans of racism for using the term "food stamps" just about every election cycle.

Richie Incognito is a thug. Uh oh. Guess I'm racist.

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Since I didn't buy the explanation the first nine times, why do you think I would buy it the tenth? You are not going to convince me otherwise, so save us both some time and don't make it 11.

I'm certainly not on the same page with calling people to use violence to get anyone's attention, and I have explicity said that I don't condone the looting or any type of behavior that aims to hurt others.

If you don't want to read another explanation, stop bringing it up to try and complain about some perceived inequality in banning you've made up.
 

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Sad day for IE when Autry gets banned. I hope it is just a quick timeout. Putting aside politics, that guy is one of the most thoughtful and intelligent posters we have on this board whether we are talking about football, politics or anything else. I don't really get what he did to earn a ban in this thread, other than falling on the wrong side of an issue. I didn't necessarily agree with NJNP's approach and it seems like he didn't really care about being banned or not, just in getting his thoughts across. Autry was clearly not in that camp.

People on one side of these discussions are already greatly outnumbered just based on the demographics of this community. So I know it will be rare for anyone to be called out for their dog-whistle instigations, and I'm not shocked to see people do their Eddie Haskell routine when they actually are called out for it. That I can accept. But the additional insult of mods banning people seemingly just because they are personally tired of having to read viewpoints that don't conform to their own is a disgrace. The mod community here has to deal with a lot, and they have traditionally done a great job. But personal biases shouldn't influence how discipline is carried out here - which is a rather ironic point to have to make considering the nature of the underlying issue at the heart of this discussion. I get the strong impression that is what happened in the case of Autry's ban.
Wow, you guys can't let it go, eh? Stop calling everyone racist and y'all will stop getting banned.
 

IrishLax

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I have a theory that the reason why NJNP ignored all the requests and warnings is that he wanted to be banned. He wanted to martyr himself and inflame everyone.

And it worked.
 

Emcee77

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I have a theory that the reason why NJNP ignored all the requests and warnings is that he wanted to be banned. He wanted to martyr himself and inflame everyone.

And it worked.

Honestly, I was thinking the same thing.
 

Rhode Irish

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I have a theory that the reason why NJNP ignored all the requests and warnings is that he wanted to be banned. He wanted to martyr himself and inflame everyone.

And it worked.

I agree. He did the internet equivalent of suicide by cop. But don't let that color the way other people are seen here. That shouldn't reflect on me, or Autry, or others.
 

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And now that I know there's a mod forum...I'm immediately curious what's there and who has been discussed.
 

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Whoh...wait a minute. I just noticed the Gentleman's Club is no longer there. What happened?!
 

woolybug25

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I'll donate $50 to the site if we let IrishPat and NJNP go at it for one day on here.

Seriously, if the mods could contact them and set up a debate. Make it an invite only group thread and only have them post. Make a poll and the winner of the debate gets to come back (not saying for how long, they'll probably get banned again).

$50 buy in to get an invite to the lounge and a vote. Proceeds go to charity of winners choosing.

This could happen.
 
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