2016 Fall Camp Thread

[ND NYC]

the difference between playing boundary corner and safety are akin to playing RB and WR...same church different pew but are totally different positions!!

this is a BAD idea!!

 

[arrowryan]

I took it as only an idea if Studstill went down and Elliott doesn't get up to speed.

Hopefully with all the increase in reps and coaches focus on getting Elliott ready we will be fine.

Oh it is. Studstill is starting.

 

[irishfan]

I don't think it would negatively effect his draft stock either. Quite the opposite actually. NFL teams are going to draft him as a corner, but they love guys who have cross trained at safety. It would make him a much more well rounded player in the long term. It would be one season where he plays safety and then back to corner. He's a versatile athlete, he could handle it. I think it would make more sense then having guys that are detrimental to our team back there while a good corner sits on the bench.

I agree. I think it boosts it. He's shown he can play CB. Playing FS will show off his versatility and also show he is a team-first guy.

Devin McCourty was a failed NFL corner before switching to FS. Teams would be drooling over drafting a guy who could potentially excel at multiple positions.

The question is if we have that other boundary corner or not for when we push Crawford inside.

 

[arrowryan]

I agree. I think it boosts it. He's shown he can play CB. Playing FS will show off his versatility and also show he is a team-first guy.

Devin McCourty was a failed NFL corner before switching to FS. Teams would be drooling over drafting a guy who could potentially excel at multiple positions.

The question is if we have that other boundary corner or not for when we push Crawford inside.

Steelers drafted Sean Davis in the 2nd round who played both CB/FS at Maryland. He's a good example.

 

[bluengold4732]

In 2012 our depth in the secondary was worse and less talented and even less experienced. You had 3 freshman playing then too and two of them.. Russell and Farley were converted from RB and WR. Different defensive scheme...but talent wise we'll be fine. Everyone went from saying that we play all these new QB's to OMG we're gonna have to play FRESHMAN! We'll be fine

 

[NDdomer2]

makes me laugh at how much we all got on Mathias Farley. Would take him in a heart beat would ya?

 

[NDdomer2]

Honestly, I think it's a little misleading as I believe you're going to be watching Studstill and Elliot play a lot of football going forward. Though I think that's what happens, it should be an easy sell.

It is slightly misleading for those two for sure. But Elliott could return back to corner in his future, too. Sophomores Spencer Perry and DJ Morgan could also be OLB's come next year, as well.

1 year projection:

FS:
Devin Studstill So.
Jalen Elliott So.

SS:
Drue Tranquill Sr.
Nicco Fertitta Jr.

Spencer Perry So.
DJ Morgan So.

Theres still a lot of playing time to be had coming in as a true frosh Safety next year. Drue hast played a full season yet, and got to think someone could challenge Nicco for time. What happens with Spencer/DJ and does Jalen take better to safety or corner?

 

[IrishLax]

makes me laugh at how much we all got on Mathias Farley. Would take him in a heart beat would ya?

Seriously. What's so crazy is how competent he was as a first year player after a position switch. Best thing about Diaco's defense is how teachable it was.

Injuries made him look terrible that one season... then he was utilized strangely as a "nickel" when we had no other players for the position. He's not uber athletic but he made a lot of big plays with good ball skills when he was a safety, and I bet he sticks in the NFL as a safety. He's been great in the pre-season. It's quasi-insane to think how much an NFL quality was basically wasted, and how much he could help us this year if he was here.

 

[greyhammer90]

makes me laugh at how much we all got on Mathias Farley. Would take him in a heart beat would ya?

Seriously. What's so crazy is how competent he was as a first year player after a position switch. Best thing about Diaco's defense is how teachable it was.

Injuries made him look terrible that one season... then he was utilized strangely as a "nickel" when we had no other players for the position. He's not uber athletic but he made a lot of big plays with good ball skills when he was a safety, and I bet he sticks in the NFL as a safety. He's been great in the pre-season. It's quasi-insane to think how much an NFL quality was basically wasted, and how much he could help us this year if he was here.

Not only this but the amount of armchair coaches that were complaining bitterly throughout that entire year that Redfield wasn't getting on the field over Farley go to show that we know nothing, and that most of the time people start/don't start for a reason.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Seriously. What's so crazy is how competent he was as a first year player after a position switch. Best thing about Diaco's defense is how teachable it was.

Injuries made him look terrible that one season... then he was utilized strangely as a "nickel" when we had no other players for the position. He's not uber athletic but he made a lot of big plays with good ball skills when he was a safety, and I bet he sticks in the NFL as a safety. He's been great in the pre-season. It's quasi-insane to think how much an NFL quality was basically wasted, and how much he could help us this year if he was here.

Agreed. I was one of the biggest detractors and for that, I humbly retract. I'd love to have him back on this team.

 

[Luckylucci]

Seriously. What's so crazy is how competent he was as a first year player after a position switch. Best thing about Diaco's defense is how teachable it was.
Injuries made him look terrible that one season... then he was utilized strangely as a "nickel" when we had no other players for the position. He's not uber athletic but he made a lot of big plays with good ball skills when he was a safety, and I bet he sticks in the NFL as a safety. He's been great in the pre-season. It's quasi-insane to think how much an NFL quality was basically wasted, and how much he could help us this year if he was here.

Agree.

 

[DONTH8]

Not only this but the amount of armchair coaches that were complaining bitterly throughout that entire year that Redfield wasn't getting on the field over Farley go to show that we know nothing, and that most of the time people start/don't start for a reason.

Unless it's Joe Schmidt over Nyles Morgan.

 

[SoIll]

ISD is reporting that the 4 boys were practicing today.

 

[koonja]

Wonder if Watkins will take a stab at FS since when he's back his starting cb spot will be gone.

 

[bluengold4732]

Wonder if Watkins will take a stab at FS since when he's back his starting cb spot will be gone.

I like this and it makes since...it'll give him a few weeks to grasp the play calling... I like it

 

[arrowryan]

ISD is reporting that the 4 boys were practicing today.

Good. I don't think they should be suspended anyway

 

[arrowryan]

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[connor_in]

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Can we some more pics of the lovely lady with Drue?

 

[dublinirish]

Good. I don't think they should be suspended anyway

lol, because?

 

[GreyWorm]

I think the move from CB to S is being thought of as an easy move. It's not. Even in Diaco's defense it would be a tough transition and obviously this one is much more complicated.

If it was the spring and you're talking about moving someone, sure, there is going to be time, but in a matter of weeks, not ideal.

I think you'll see Avery Sebastian move over to FS and take pressure off Elliott and Studstill. Does that mean he will start? Possibly, but Studstill will play, but you also can't put too much on Studstill's plate physically with his hamstring.

It's not an ideal situation at all, but maybe it simplifies the defense if worse comes to worse. I am not sold that is the best option either, so it will be interesting when/if Tranquill/Sebastian get hurt.

 

[arrowryan]

lol, because?

Because its weed. It took Cierre Wood like 5 times to get caught with weed or fail a drug test before he was suspended. I think if they were going to be suspended, it would've been announced on Sunday with the Redfield and Butler news.

 

[dublinirish]

Because its weed. It took Cierre Wood like 5 times to get caught with weed or fail a drug test before he was suspended. I think if they were going to be suspended, it would've been announced on Sunday with the Redfield and Butler news.

what about the handgun?

 

[arrowryan]

what about the handgun?

Yeah, that a different story. Whoever had the gun should be suspended, everyone else should not.

 

[Rack Em]

What if they were actually Northern Indiana vigilantes, killing muggers like CHARLES BRONSON?

 

[tko]

What if they were actually Northern Indiana vigilantes, killing muggers like CHARLES BRONSON?

Bronson was the man!!!!!

 

[yankeehater]

It is slightly misleading for those two for sure. But Elliott could return back to corner in his future, too. Sophomores Spencer Perry and DJ Morgan could also be OLB's come next year, as well.

1 year projection:

FS:
Devin Studstill So.
Jalen Elliott So.

SS:
Drue Tranquill Sr.
Nicco Fertitta Jr.

Spencer Perry So.
DJ Morgan So.

Theres still a lot of playing time to be had coming in as a true frosh Safety next year. Drue hast played a full season yet, and got to think someone could challenge Nicco for time. What happens with Spencer/DJ and does Jalen take better to safety or corner?

What happened to S Avery?

 

[irishfan]

What happened to S Avery?

It's a 1-year projection, so he'll be gone by 2017.

 

[NDdomer2]

What happened to S Avery?

edit IrishFan got it

 

[arrowryan]

Can we some more pics of the lovely lady with Drue?

Yeah his girlfriend is a total smoke show

 

[arrowryan]

It's a 1-year projection, so he'll be gone by 2017.

Remember that Robertson and Pouncey will probably be safeties as well. Adding those 2 already doubles the amount of free safeties we have.