Long story (hang with me), I know a guy whose twin brother and another buddy went to UF, played around a bit in the music scene, then both decided they wanted to get into the business side of it instead. They had some local friends who had bands and decided they'd manage them-- 2 bands. Well my friend's twin took the band they were friends with called Sister Hazel, who got kinda big for a minute. The other guy, he took the other friend-band- Creed...who got huge. I can't remember if it was my buddy's brother or the other guy, but he was actually in one of those 2 bands before they became the members that made it big. Actually, Creed's first album or 2 were pretty good. It took me a little while to warm up to them. Now though, the whole Scott Stapp-Kid Rock porn video I told you about makes me crack up-- I can't think of them and laugh...and also liken them to Nickleback, with the way the evolved after those first couple albums.