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NDdomer2 · Aug 21, 2016

If I'm getting recruited by ND as a safety the playing time sure looks available.

bluengold4732 · Aug 21, 2016

You'll see a three man rotation at S...just like last year with Farley, Redfield, Shumate...this year it'll be Studstill, Tranquill, and Elliot. Until Watkins is back it'll be Luke, Crawford, Tranquill, Studstill in the standard package. Coleman will take over at CB and crawford will move to nickel and Elliott will come in on Dime. Vaughn will be your 4th corner and Love the backup nickel. I Never wanna see Fertitta or Sebastian in pass coverage. They can play ST...

gkIrish · Aug 21, 2016

Is it too late for a grad transfer to come play for us?

tko · Aug 21, 2016

gkIrish said:
Is it too late for a grad transfer to come play for us?

Greeks play a different type of football, futbol?

Luckylucci · Aug 21, 2016

NDdomer2 said:
If I'm getting recruited by ND as a safety the playing time sure looks available.

Honestly, I think it's a little misleading as I believe you're going to be watching Studstill and Elliot play a lot of football going forward. Though I think that's what happens, it should be an easy sell.

Veritate Duce Progredi · Aug 21, 2016

I wonder when we'll go through a whole offseason without some huge incident.

BobbyMac · Aug 21, 2016

Veritate Duce Progredi said:
I wonder when we'll go through a whole offseason without some huge incident.

Borrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiing

Buster Bluth · Aug 21, 2016

gkIrish said:
Is it too late for a grad transfer to come play for us?

Texas: 117th
Nevada: 113th
Michigan State: 55th
Duke: 45th
Syracuse: 116th
North Carolina State: 78th
Stanford: 76th
BYE
Miami: 29th
Navy: 125th
Army: 126th
Virginia Tech: 64th
Southern Cal: 31st

I know this is pretty simplistic, but none of Notre Dame's opponents were top 25 passing offenses last year. Hell only three of them were top 50. Granted, Ohio State's passing game came in at #100, so it's deceiving...but which of these passing attacks really scare you? Southern Cal and Miami, but they're both in the second half of the season.

Sure Texas brought in a spread OC, and Syracuse's coach, Dino Babers, is a spread offense guru (#5 passing attack last year at BGSU), as is Virginia Tech's Justin Fuente (#18 passing attack at Memphis)...but this isn't the Big XII, they can play and win with a freshman at FS.

I guess I'm just saying there's a decent chance this works out like 2012, when the green secondary was bailed out by the schedule. Yeah, they had an unreal front seven, but 2012 didn't have an offense like this one.

koonja · Aug 21, 2016

gkIrish said:
Is it too late for a grad transfer to come play for us?

Wouldn't it be nice if Justin Brent was a FS right now rather than a pointless 5th string RB.

Sherm Sticky · Aug 21, 2016

koonja said:
Wouldn't it be nice if Justin Brent was a FS right now rather than a pointless 5th string RB.

Sure. But he is also out a few more weeks with an injury.

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Sherm Sticky · Aug 21, 2016

Crazy idea. Shaun Crawford is supposed to have good football smarts, tackles well and can cover the slot. Anyway he moves to safety. Would be like Bob Sanders there.

Coleman and Watkins would be on the outside. Maybe Studstill or Love play the nickel...

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Luckylucci · Aug 21, 2016

Sherm Sticky said:
Crazy idea. Shaun Crawford is supposed to have good football smarts, tackles well and can cover the slot. Anyway he moves to safety. Would be like Bob Sanders there.

Coleman and Watkins would be on the outside. Maybe Studstill or Love play the nickel...

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I've seen a couple of different quotes from BVG and Lyght on why they like Crawford at the Nickel. They like him closer to the ball and they think his overall skillset is a perfect fit for that poisition. Makes me think this wouldn't be an option right away

gkIrish · Aug 21, 2016

Buster Bluth said:
Texas: 117th
Nevada: 113th
Michigan State: 55th
Duke: 45th
Syracuse: 116th
North Carolina State: 78th
Stanford: 76th
BYE
Miami: 29th
Navy: 125th
Army: 126th
Virginia Tech: 64th
Southern Cal: 31st

I know this is pretty simplistic, but none of Notre Dame's opponents were top 25 passing offenses last year. Hell only three of them were top 50. Granted, Ohio State's passing game came in at #100, so it's deceiving...but which of these passing attacks really scare you? Southern Cal and Miami, but they're both in the second half of the season.

Sure Texas brought in a spread OC, and Syracuse's coach, Dino Babers, is a spread offense guru (#5 passing attack last year at BGSU), as is Virginia Tech's Justin Fuente (#18 passing attack at Memphis)...but this isn't the Big XII, they can play and win with a freshman at FS.

I guess I'm just saying there's a decent chance this works out like 2012, when the green secondary was bailed out by the schedule. Yeah, they had an unreal front seven, but 2012 didn't have an offense like this one.

I don't disagree but we need a body or two and some sort of veteran presence. Last thing I want is a freshman playing back there on 4th and 8 when we are up 4 on Texas with less than a minute to go. Strong, D'Antonio and other coaches we face are too good not to call a play in those situations that will exploit the freshman.

bluengold4732 · Aug 21, 2016

We literally have Luke, Coleman, Sebastian, Tranquill, and Fertitta as non freshman options in the secondary right now. 2 are your top three corners at the moment and we don't wanna see Fertitta or Sebastian in pass coverage...so you're basically stuck with a three man rotation at S and two of them(Studstill and Elliot) are true freshman. Even CB is all freshman behind Luke and Coleman. Kelly wasn't joking when he said the back end is where you'll get your first look at the Freshman class

Buster Bluth · Aug 22, 2016

gkIrish said:
I don't disagree but we need a body or two and some sort of veteran presence. Last thing I want is a freshman playing back there on 4th and 8 when we are up 4 on Texas with less than a minute to go. Strong, D'Antonio and other coaches we face are too good not to call a play in those situations that will exploit the freshman.

Yeah I think the Navy game just got more interesting. It's nice to have guys watch film and go through the process of preparing for Navy before they're actually starters.

ThePiombino · Aug 22, 2016

Buster Bluth said:
Yeah I think the Navy game just got more interesting. It's nice to have guys watch film and go through the process of preparing for Navy before they're actually starters.

The good news is Reynolds graduated. We should be good.

Veritate Duce Progredi · Aug 22, 2016

Kelly said the freshman have an edge, they really want to play. They better be hitting their playbooks double time right now because they are going to play alot in the secondary.

I'm guessing a number of our corners will cross-train at safety. Is Ashton White a potential crossover player or would he get smoked? too soon?

Seriously, do we expect Donte Vaughn to crosstrain? I'm uncertain if Kelly will give us any hints on roster cross development.

**Just saw our last media session at practice is this afternoon. Should get some eyes on the situation at least.

FightingIrishLover7 · Aug 22, 2016

What is Love playing?

zelezo vlk · Aug 22, 2016

FightingIrishLover7 said:
What is Love playing?

I think it was announced that he's the backup nickel.

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koonja · Aug 22, 2016

I know they've been clear that Donte Vaughn is a CB, but that's a FS body to me, and he seems physically ready to compete. You have to think they'll cross train one of the freshman DBs since we have no depth there and the season hasn't even started. I hope they cross train Vaughn.

Or Malik Zaire - he could be a college FS.

NDdomer2 · Aug 22, 2016

Coaches typically don't cross train freshman until they have a good grasp of their current position.

Doubt that's the case for any of the freshman DB's right now. Now, due to depth maybe its going to happen out of necessity but that doesn't mean its a good thing.

Id rather have someone be good at 1 position than average or worse at two.

koonja · Aug 22, 2016

NDdomer2 said:
Coaches typically don't cross train freshman until they have a good grasp of their current position.

Doubt that's the case for any of the freshman DB's right now. Now, due to depth maybe its going to happen out of necessity but that doesn't mean its a good thing.

Id rather have someone be good at 1 position than average or worse at two.

I agree about cross training freshman but some freshman are just special. Like Studstill and Crawford from all reports. Desperate times, my man. Our FS depth looks like something from the replacements. I'm waiting to see a practice clip where one of our backup FS's have a cig hanging out of their face masks.

#1rish · Aug 22, 2016

Still think they should/should have moved Brent to safety.

dublinirish · Aug 22, 2016

#1rish said:
Still think they should/should have moved Brent to safety.

kid don't have the brain to play safety. he'd be alright on special teams but that's it.

NDohio · Aug 22, 2016

Today is the day ND is featured on College Sports Nation. Should be interesting.

IrishLax · Aug 22, 2016

So random thought... with the Showtime cameras around last year, what was the worst thing that happened in the offseason? Am I crazy to think that the pressure of being "on camera" made everyone feel accountable and brought out the best?

irishff1014 · Aug 22, 2016

Buster Bluth said:
Yeah I think the Navy game just got more interesting. It's nice to have guys watch film and go through the process of preparing for Navy before they're actually starters.

Well I think Tranquill will be playing this game he killed navy until he hurt himself celebrating. I think we will be ok for his game.

NDdomer2 · Aug 22, 2016

koonja said:
I agree about cross training freshman but some freshman are just special. Like Studstill and Crawford from all reports. Desperate times, my man. Our FS depth looks like something from the replacements. I'm waiting to see a practice clip where one of our backup FS's have a cig hanging out of their face masks.

crawford is a sophmore. and hasnt BK already stated they like him closer to LOS? Sounds like FS might not fit his skillset.

connor_in · Aug 22, 2016

Sherm Sticky said:
Crazy idea. Shaun Crawford is supposed to have good football smarts, tackles well and can cover the slot. Anyway he moves to safety. Would be like Bob Sanders there.

Coleman and Watkins would be on the outside. Maybe Studstill or Love play the nickel...

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I loved watching that guy play!

koonja · Aug 22, 2016

NDdomer2 said:
crawford is a sophmore. and hasnt BK already stated they like him closer to LOS? Sounds like FS might not fit his skillset.

I'm not saying Crawford at FS, just referencing a freshman who seems to come in and pick it up right away.

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