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Do they say what cruise line? And there is a million ways to spend a lot of money on a cruise. Even when I go on a short 4 day cruise I normally spend about 400 to 600 between my wife and I.
 
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Do they say what cruise line? And there is a million ways to spend a lot of money on a cruise. Even when I go on a short 4 day cruise I normally spend about 400 to 600 between my wide and I.

Royal Carribbean, the dog balls of all cruises.
 

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Royal Carribbean, the dog balls of all cruises.

No royal is better than carnival. I do love carnival tho more of a party cruise but the service isn't as high as royal. Royal is more of a elderly group of customers.
 

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In case anyone's interested, the costs would be:

- $25 in hotel taxes
~ $600 in round trip flights for 2
~ $212 total in cruise tax and port fees

So it's essentially an $850 cost, plus all drinks we'd buy on the 5 nights. So it's a matter of dealing with some inconveniences (again, my GF wouldn't have to do the presentation) and being on a ship, or paying ~$2,500 total for an all inclusive for both of us on land.

I'm still debating.

Don't know if you are a big drinker, my family is. Over budget for booze.
 

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In case anyone's interested, the costs would be:

- $25 in hotel taxes
~ $600 in round trip flights for 2
~ $212 total in cruise tax and port fees

So it's essentially an $850 cost, plus all drinks we'd buy on the 5 nights. So it's a matter of dealing with some inconveniences (again, my GF wouldn't have to do the presentation) and being on a ship, or paying ~$2,500 total for an all inclusive for both of us on land.

I'm still debating.

DO IT
 

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In case anyone's interested, the costs would be:

- $25 in hotel taxes
~ $600 in round trip flights for 2
~ $212 total in cruise tax and port fees

So it's essentially an $850 cost, plus all drinks we'd buy on the 5 nights. So it's a matter of dealing with some inconveniences (again, my GF wouldn't have to do the presentation) and being on a ship, or paying ~$2,500 total for an all inclusive for both of us on land.

I'm still debating.

Didn't you say there's also 150 dollar seminar fee?
 

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Well there you have it. An IE class trip to Koon's presentation with Crusader as our "buyer". I'm in.

I could see Koon trying to do the same thing as Crusader and getting his ass totally kicked by a 50 year old dude with a fupa.

That would please me.
 

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Yes,.good catch.

So now you're at 1000 bucks minimum. If you have zero drinks, get 300 dollar plane tickets (maybe you can, it just seems cheap to me), and don't spend a cent at any of the ports you dock at. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it. I'm just guessing that 1000 bucks almost doubles in the end.

I agree with a lot of what Wiz said. Of course eliminating debt should be a top priority. But damn man, yolo. I just think you and the Mrs could plan a nice trip, do exactly what you want (without any bullshit), and do it for half the price of this "free cruise".

You're an adult, do what you want.
 

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My parents were 70ish at the time and fell for the free ticket offer in Orlando. The guys were so persistent that my Mom looked at my Dad and said yes, we'll take 2. Of course she didn't want 2. Then she said "but I want 4 tickets, that bottle of booze, the large jar of olive oil, and whatever else was there. They signed all of the papers, took all of the free stuff to the car and then walked around to the customer service area and told the lady they changed their minds. They signed a provided document that canceled the whole deal.

They knew that there is a law in every state that timeshare folks have to follow. It has to be easy to cancel if you change your mind. Some policies have you drop it off at the customer service desk or mail it by certified mail, but they all have to provide a form that you can complete and cancel. So you can go that route if you like and get more free stuff.

I however, would never go back. Been there, yelled a lot and almost got divorced. But sounds like you want to make it to hell and back with a prize.
 

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For record's sake I officially stand with the 'no way in hell' crowd on this one ( added info and all)... What makes these tolerable is the hundreds if not thousands of dollars of free stuff (room, food, entertainment) you get while actually spending next to nothing... If koon has to go in for nearly a grand anyway? Screw. That. Defeats the whole purpose...

It's kind of like playing a free to play game like Clash of Clans, if you're buying a bunch of stuff on it with real money then why not play a better for purchase game? The thing that makes it so cool/worth playing is the fact that's it free.
 
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My parents were 70ish at the time and fell for the free ticket offer in Orlando. The guys were so persistent that my Mom looked at my Dad and said yes, we'll take 2. Of course she didn't want 2. Then she said "but I want 4 tickets, that bottle of booze, the large jar of olive oil, and whatever else was there. They signed all of the papers, took all of the free stuff to the car and then walked around to the customer service area and told the lady they changed their minds. They signed a provided document that canceled the whole deal.



They knew that there is a law in every state that timeshare folks have to follow. It has to be easy to cancel if you change your mind. Some policies have you drop it off at the customer service desk or mail it by certified mail, but they all have to provide a form that you can complete and cancel. So you can go that route if you like and get more free stuff.



I however, would never go back. Been there, yelled a lot and almost got divorced. But sounds like you want to make it to hell and back with a prize.



Yep each state has a law where you can cancel an agreement before a certain amount of time with no penalty. I think the number of days varies on states.


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With all the information Koon has provided, I don't know why everyone isn't enthusiastically supporting this idea. Really disappointed in the board.
 

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Is this a timeshare purchase at El Grande Vista? Do it! You might get invited to O'Kelly's yacht as a surprise perk!
 

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Timeshare Vacations?

I had a friend in college who got drunk on Spring Break and ended up buying one in Cancun or South Padre, forget where. He blathered on for months afterwards about how great of a deal it was and how we all should do it.

Long story short: If someone is desperately trying to drag you into a financial decision they have made, it's a crock of shit 99.9% of the time. You could see the need of validation in my friend's eyes, and that was a huge red flag. It's like when someone keeps texting you from a party saying "this is so awesome! you need to come!" Clearly if the party was so great, they wouldn't bother texting you.
 

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My recommendation:

A big NO


You will soon be crash landing on a deserted island with 10 other IE posters and a wooden spoon; or was it 10 wooden spoons and Wooly. So, unless the timeshare is on the 'right' deserted island, you won't get your money's worth - hell, even if the timeshare IS on the 'right' deserted island, you would only get the use of it 2 weeks out of the year....the rest of the time you will be staying under a palm tree

You are welcome.....YOLO
 

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Talked to my mom about her timeshare with home base in the Bahamas. She pays about $600 a year, but it increases yearly. In 14 years she has paid one special assessment fee of $700 for hurricane repair damage.

I thought she liked the whole program. But, she informed me not to recommend signing up for the time share. Her issue is that you are locked in for a ridiculous amount of time and it's difficult to sell to someone else. Saying that she loves her place in the Bahamas and the ability to trade for a small fee to other locations.


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I had a friend in college who got drunk on Spring Break and ended up buying one in Cancun or South Padre, forget where. He blathered on for months afterwards about how great of a deal it was and how we all should do it.

Long story short: If someone is desperately trying to drag you into a financial decision they have made, it's a crock of shit 99.9% of the time. You could see the need of validation in my friend's eyes, and that was a huge red flag. It's like when someone keeps texting you from a party saying "this is so awesome! you need to come!" Clearly if the party was so great, they wouldn't bother texting you.

It wasn't drunken shenanigans, but I had two separate friends, in two separate social circles, over the course of two years, get sucked into this pyramid scheme that was disguised as a nutrition business.

Their business model was to sell supplements that helped you lose weight, gain muscle, or get through your day with more energy and the right nutritional values. You sold them to your friends/family/coworkers. You kept 75% of the profit, and 25% went to the guy above you that got you "in."

They were operating on two fronts:

1. They want you to buy the initial supplements, your "starter kit," for $150. Even if you don't sell any after that and turn into a salesman, they've got your initial cash and are happy.

2. If you actually DO start to make sales, the guy above you is making cash while doing nothing.

The first friend that got into it invited me over to his house for a "side job" to make some "quick cash." I got there and 5 of us poor schmucks that got dragged into it sat through a two hour video about the company, followed by an hour-long sales pitch from our friend, with timely help from the "Regional Sales Executive."

The regional sales guy pulled me over and tried to hard-sell me on ordering a starter kit and asked if I "wanted to start living like a baller." I told him 6 or 7 times that I was a poor college student, and didn't have the cash to even get a starter kit. I knew this was all a ploy for them to make quick cash, and if someone turned in legit sales, it was a bonus. He kept trying to sell me, at one point offering me HIS phone so I could call other friends or my parents and ask for the money to get in, as I told him mine was dead and I needed to leave.

I kept turning him down, and the poor guy kept trying different techniques, one after another, with no transition. I could see him going through his sales manual in his head.

I never called that friend again after I left the house during their second film presentation.

My second friend, who was in my major and knew what my professional interests were, called me and played me for a fool. Got me all excited about a job opportunity that he "couldn't talk about specifically," but knew I'd "love" it. Purposefully got all cryptic and made me think that he was doing me a solid. He passed me along the contact info for the people that were "really interested in my skills that we heard about from our friend [Shitty Friend]!"

I got all excited, thinking he hooked me up with what could be my big break... so I called, and a lady asked if I could meet her at a McDonald's near my house to have lunch and discuss the job. A MCDONALDS.

I told her I had other work lined up, and made her give me the hard sell. After 20 mins on the phone going around in circles, me asking about the job and her refusing to answer, she finally told me that she had an opportunity in selling some dietary stuff for a business that was going to "shut GNC's doors." I got super ultra pissed that a separate friend, that had no idea who my other friend was, had gotten sucked into this thing a year later and wanted to bring me in on it.

I told the lady that I'd love to meet at McDonalds for a lunch meeting, and that we could iron out the details. Acted like I was all-in on this deal. She confirmed with me three times that week, as she'd be driving an hour from another meeting to try and get me all set up.

She called me on the day we were supposed to meet. I let her go to voicemail twice. The first was nice, the second she was already mad. I answered her third call and asked her if she conducted all of her business with people she "really wanted to work with" at FUCKING MCDONALDS. I hung up on her and texted my friend to tell him what a jackoff he was. Haven't spoken to him since, but I'd like to think he lost a bunch of money on buying supplements he didn't sell and/or his regional sales lady gave him the boot for a shitty referral.

Ruining her day was probably worth it all though.
 

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It wasn't drunken shenanigans, but I had two separate friends, in two separate social circles, over the course of two years, get sucked into this pyramid scheme that was disguised as a nutrition business.

Their business model was to sell supplements that helped you lose weight, gain muscle, or get through your day with more energy and the right nutritional values. You sold them to your friends/family/coworkers. You kept 75% of the profit, and 25% went to the guy above you that got you "in."

They were operating on two fronts:

1. They want you to buy the initial supplements, your "starter kit," for $150. Even if you don't sell any after that and turn into a salesman, they've got your initial cash and are happy.

2. If you actually DO start to make sales, the guy above you is making cash while doing nothing.

The first friend that got into it invited me over to his house for a "side job" to make some "quick cash." I got there and 5 of us poor schmucks that got dragged into it sat through a two hour video about the company, followed by an hour-long sales pitch from our friend, with timely help from the "Regional Sales Executive."

The regional sales guy pulled me over and tried to hard-sell me on ordering a starter kit and asked if I "wanted to start living like a baller." I told him 6 or 7 times that I was a poor college student, and didn't have the cash to even get a starter kit. I knew this was all a ploy for them to make quick cash, and if someone turned in legit sales, it was a bonus. He kept trying to sell me, at one point offering me HIS phone so I could call other friends or my parents and ask for the money to get in, as I told him mine was dead and I needed to leave.

I kept turning him down, and the poor guy kept trying different techniques, one after another, with no transition. I could see him going through his sales manual in his head.

I never called that friend again after I left the house during their second film presentation.

My second friend, who was in my major and knew what my professional interests were, called me and played me for a fool. Got me all excited about a job opportunity that he "couldn't talk about specifically," but knew I'd "love" it. Purposefully got all cryptic and made me think that he was doing me a solid. He passed me along the contact info for the people that were "really interested in my skills that we heard about from our friend [Shitty Friend]!"

I got all excited, thinking he hooked me up with what could be my big break... so I called, and a lady asked if I could meet her at a McDonald's near my house to have lunch and discuss the job. A MCDONALDS.

I told her I had other work lined up, and made her give me the hard sell. After 20 mins on the phone going around in circles, me asking about the job and her refusing to answer, she finally told me that she had an opportunity in selling some dietary stuff for a business that was going to "shut GNC's doors." I got super ultra pissed that a separate friend, that had no idea who my other friend was, had gotten sucked into this thing a year later and wanted to bring me in on it.

I told the lady that I'd love to meet at McDonalds for a lunch meeting, and that we could iron out the details. Acted like I was all-in on this deal. She confirmed with me three times that week, as she'd be driving an hour from another meeting to try and get me all set up.

She called me on the day we were supposed to meet. I let her go to voicemail twice. The first was nice, the second she was already mad. I answered her third call and asked her if she conducted all of her business with people she "really wanted to work with" at FUCKING MCDONALDS. I hung up on her and texted my friend to tell him what a jackoff he was. Haven't spoken to him since, but I'd like to think he lost a bunch of money on buying supplements he didn't sell and/or his regional sales lady gave him the boot for a shitty referral.

Ruining her day was probably worth it all though.

Lol!! Nicely done sir, nicely done!!
 

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Lion I cut ties with one of my best friends for the same reason. The product was called Waiora IIRC. I knew it was bull the whole time and tried to convince him to quit but he got angry with me and we basically stopped talking.
 

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It wasn't drunken shenanigans, but I had two separate friends, in two separate social circles, over the course of two years, get sucked into this pyramid scheme that was disguised as a nutrition business.

Their business model was to sell supplements that helped you lose weight, gain muscle, or get through your day with more energy and the right nutritional values. You sold them to your friends/family/coworkers. You kept 75% of the profit, and 25% went to the guy above you that got you "in."

They were operating on two fronts:

1. They want you to buy the initial supplements, your "starter kit," for $150. Even if you don't sell any after that and turn into a salesman, they've got your initial cash and are happy.

2. If you actually DO start to make sales, the guy above you is making cash while doing nothing.

The first friend that got into it invited me over to his house for a "side job" to make some "quick cash." I got there and 5 of us poor schmucks that got dragged into it sat through a two hour video about the company, followed by an hour-long sales pitch from our friend, with timely help from the "Regional Sales Executive."

The regional sales guy pulled me over and tried to hard-sell me on ordering a starter kit and asked if I "wanted to start living like a baller." I told him 6 or 7 times that I was a poor college student, and didn't have the cash to even get a starter kit. I knew this was all a ploy for them to make quick cash, and if someone turned in legit sales, it was a bonus. He kept trying to sell me, at one point offering me HIS phone so I could call other friends or my parents and ask for the money to get in, as I told him mine was dead and I needed to leave.

I kept turning him down, and the poor guy kept trying different techniques, one after another, with no transition. I could see him going through his sales manual in his head.

I never called that friend again after I left the house during their second film presentation.

My second friend, who was in my major and knew what my professional interests were, called me and played me for a fool. Got me all excited about a job opportunity that he "couldn't talk about specifically," but knew I'd "love" it. Purposefully got all cryptic and made me think that he was doing me a solid. He passed me along the contact info for the people that were "really interested in my skills that we heard about from our friend [Shitty Friend]!"

I got all excited, thinking he hooked me up with what could be my big break... so I called, and a lady asked if I could meet her at a McDonald's near my house to have lunch and discuss the job. A MCDONALDS.

I told her I had other work lined up, and made her give me the hard sell. After 20 mins on the phone going around in circles, me asking about the job and her refusing to answer, she finally told me that she had an opportunity in selling some dietary stuff for a business that was going to "shut GNC's doors." I got super ultra pissed that a separate friend, that had no idea who my other friend was, had gotten sucked into this thing a year later and wanted to bring me in on it.

I told the lady that I'd love to meet at McDonalds for a lunch meeting, and that we could iron out the details. Acted like I was all-in on this deal. She confirmed with me three times that week, as she'd be driving an hour from another meeting to try and get me all set up.

She called me on the day we were supposed to meet. I let her go to voicemail twice. The first was nice, the second she was already mad. I answered her third call and asked her if she conducted all of her business with people she "really wanted to work with" at FUCKING MCDONALDS. I hung up on her and texted my friend to tell him what a jackoff he was. Haven't spoken to him since, but I'd like to think he lost a bunch of money on buying supplements he didn't sell and/or his regional sales lady gave him the boot for a shitty referral.

Ruining her day was probably worth it all though.
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Had an idiot try to sell me on Vemma. An obvious pyramid scheme. Energy drink.
 
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I've decided not to go the timeshare route. If we lived close enough to drive to the port, it'd be a no Brainer, but that alone adds $600 to our trip. I don't think it's a rip off, as they pay for everything, spare hotel tax, port fees, and cruise tax, which you'd pay anyways. The presentation doesn't scare me, I'd still like to experience that sometime in my life, but it won't be this year.
 

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Cool beans. Thanks for the update Koon.

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Talked to my mom about her timeshare with home base in the Bahamas. She pays about $600 a year, but it increases yearly. In 14 years she has paid one special assessment fee of $700 for hurricane repair damage.

I thought she liked the whole program. But, she informed me not to recommend signing up for the time share. Her issue is that you are locked in for a ridiculous amount of time and it's difficult to sell to someone else. Saying that she loves her place in the Bahamas and the ability to trade for a small fee to other locations.
That's the most common thing I hear from timeshare owners. "We really like it, but..."
 
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