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[woolybug25]

Vandy and Northwestern probably shouldn't be 2/3 of the "worst" opponents on any schedule, for anyone, period.

That is just plain dumb.

They're not. If you look at where those teams are today, compared to where they were in '18, we will have Ball St, Vandy, WF, VT, Pitt, Navy, NW and Syracuse as pretty mediocre opponents. We have four tough games UM, Stanford, FSU and USC.

I get what you fellas are saying, but outside of not wanting to play scUM, I am not really that upset about this schedule. I think it's sneaky in the sense that it looks tough, but if you really dig into the teams and where they could potentially be in '18 and '19. It's really not that bad.

 

[IrishLion]

They're not. If you look at where those teams are today, compared to where they were in '18, we will have Ball St, Vandy, WF, VT, Pitt, Navy, NW and Syracuse as pretty mediocre opponents. We have four tough games UM, Stanford, FSU and USC.

I get what you fellas are saying, but outside of not wanting to play scUM, I am not really that upset about this schedule. I think it's sneaky in the sense that it looks tough, but if you really dig into the teams and where they could potentially be in '18 and '19. It's really not that bad.

It's not that bad as long as Vandy, WF, Pitt, Navy and Syracuse are all reverted back to "basically cupcake" status...

But if current trends hold, Vandy will be a tough out, Pittsburgh will be a tough out, Navy will beat us down physically whether we win or not, ruining the back end of the schedule, and Syracuse will be a shootout where our offense needs to be borderline perfect.

I hope things fluctuate back towards "normal" in '18, meaning ND *should* be better than all those squads, but even in your scenario, there's still not a true "break" to be had, which is how the true national title contenders schedule things.

 

[zelezo vlk]

playing Michigan is not needed or wanted

This was known for years and the biggest complaint when the Michigan games were announced. It was plain to see that '18 was going to be incredibly tough.

John Harbaugh will have his work cut out for him.

 

[woolybug25]

It's not that bad as long as Vandy, WF, Pitt, Navy and Syracuse are all reverted back to "basically cupcake" status...

But if current trends hold, Vandy will be a tough out, Pittsburgh will be a tough out, Navy will beat us down physically whether we win or not, ruining the back end of the schedule, and Syracuse will be a shootout where our offense needs to be borderline perfect.

I hope things fluctuate back towards "normal" in '18, meaning ND *should* be better than all those squads, but even in your scenario, there's still not a true "break" to be had, which is how the true national title contenders schedule things.

I guess what I mean is that a "good" team, shouldn't struggle with those types of teams. We have struggled against these types of teams, but that's because we weren't a good team.

For instance, if OSU would have played the '18 schedule, I would expect them to win 10+ games. Win 11 with that schedule and you're playoff bound.

 

[IrishLax]

I think people are drastically underrating how hard it's going to be to win on the road at Virginia Tech. That's a perennial top 25 team (save for the tail end of Beamer's run) and a heck on environment to play in.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Holy crap I forgot that Georgia was on the '19 schedule too. Big Bro Harbaugh is good, but is he 10 wins vs @Lerverr, @Georgia, @scUM, @Trees, and home for Southern Cal good?

 

[greyhammer90]

A game against Northwestern the week after Navy.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Virginia Tech will not ever be a cupcake, and given the new offensive regime (with the old Bud Foster for defense) will not be close to mediocre. That is a dangerous outfit.

 

[BGIF]

A game against Northwestern the week after Navy.

Scheduling Northwestern instead of Stanford or USC is a much smarter move. But who the opponent was that followed Navy wasn't significant. ND had losses to ASU, PIT twice, TULSA, SYR, and AFA. The coaches, talent, season injuries, and things like academic misconduct, ineligibility, and ResLife were more significant that the schedule was.

2016 Stanford L
2015 USC W
2014 ASU L
2013 PIT L
2012 PU W
2011 WF W
2010 TUL L
2009 PIT L
2008 SYR L
2007 AFA L
2006 UNC W
2005 SYR W

 

[greyhammer90]

Scheduling Northwestern instead of Stanford or USC is a much smarter move. But who the opponent was that followed Navy wasn't significant. ND had losses to ASU, PIT twice, TULSA, SYR, and AFA. The coaches, talent, season injuries, and things like academic misconduct, ineligibility, and ResLife were more significant that the schedule was.

2016 Stanford L
2015 USC W
2014 ASU L
2013 PIT L
2012 PU W
2011 WF W
2010 TUL L
2009 PIT L
2008 SYR L
2007 AFA L
2006 UNC W
2005 SYR W

How about we don't schedule an easily-overlooked opponent that gives you zero benefit for beating and single-handedly makes the season a disaster if you lose - a team that beat you the last time you played that has a coach who is personally motivated to beat ND - after you play one of the most physically draining games of the season.

Schedule Tulane after Navy. Don't schedule Northwestern.

 

[Valpodoc85]

If they fire Kelly after 2017 that 2018 schedule will give any prospective coach pause.

 

[ShawneeIrish]

Tough schedule? Yes
Impossilbe schedule? By no means

Keep in mind how many ND schedules we have considered impossibly difficult only to find they were much easier than anticipated once the season gets underway. I am in agreement with Wooly top teams like OSU and Bama can handle teams like 'Cuse, Wake Forest, Northwestern, and Vandy without much worry, the problem is less the opponents than it is we have been a mediocre program.

 

[NDbrbkny]

when the hell did we get vandy on the schedule?

 

[NDdomer2]

Seems on par with most schedules 4 prime time opponents and a schedule full of tough, but winnable games.

We want to hold ourselves to a high standard as a football program as far as winning 10+ games a year, then games like Ball St, Vandy, WF, VT, Pitt, Navy, NW and Syracuse should be considered wins always. On an "average year" (10 wins) u split the 4 big games. Bad years u lose all four (8-4) great years u win 3/4.

 

[IrishLion]

Seems on par with most schedules 4 prime time opponents and a schedule full of tough, but winnable games.

We want to hold ourselves to a high standard as a football program as far as winning 10+ games a year, then games like Ball St, Vandy, WF, VT, Pitt, Navy, NW and Syracuse should be considered wins always. On an "average year" (10 wins) u split the 4 big games. Bad years u lose all four (8-4) great years u win 3/4.

I agree in principal. I just feel that those "should always be wins" games build on one another, especially when they are sandwiched between top-flight opponents, with no reasonable breaks mixed in.

Those "should always win" games get more difficult by orders of magnitude that way, when you don't schedule intelligently, and instead see them week-after-week.

 

[NDdomer2]

I agree in principal. I just feel that those "should always be wins" games build on one another, especially when they are sandwiched between top-flight opponents, with no reasonable breaks mixed in.

Those "should always win" games get more difficult by orders of magnitude that way, when you don't schedule intelligently, and instead see them week-after-week.

Only game id really like to see change is we rarely open season in a cupcake. It's hot right away. 16/18/19 especially

 

[irishtrain]

These next 2 years schedule are real %$#@. Maybe they can be spoilers and win 8 games one of those years but on both schedules I see 5 losses. 2018 would be a tough year for the start of a new coach. Kelly cant win 8 games with the schedule and personnel he has so I look to see them letting him go after the next season unless he captures lighting in a bottle. Alabama couldn't handle the 2018 schedule let alone Notre Dame of today. I still think Kelly is a great coach and we may find that out when Notre Dame dismisses him. Man those are tough schedules and suppose they lose to Temple right out of the gate next year----I'm not buying all the hype of coaching changes and new attitude because the squad does not have the defensive depth or toughness required. They have a few marque elite players who are possible next level players but just not enough. College football has changed and as Father Jenkins has said Notre Dame is not sacrificing what it is to win games. That's for the universities that ARE winning. Onward Notre Dame?

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

These next 2 years schedule are real %$#@. Maybe they can be spoilers and win 8 games one of those years but on both schedules I see 5 losses. 2018 would be a tough year for the start of a new coach. Kelly cant win 8 games with the schedule and personnel he has so I look to see them letting him go after the next season unless he captures lighting in a bottle. Alabama couldn't handle the 2018 schedule let alone Notre Dame of today. I still think Kelly is a great coach and we may find that out when Notre Dame dismisses him. Man those are tough schedules and suppose they lose to Temple right out of the gate next year----I'm not buying all the hype of coaching changes and new attitude because the squad does not have the defensive depth or toughness required. They have a few marque elite players who are possible next level players but just not enough. College football has changed and as Father Jenkins has said Notre Dame is not sacrificing what it is to win games. That's for the universities that ARE winning. Onward Notre Dame?

You are the sh1ttiest "fan" I've ever seen. How the fVck can you see 5 losses two years in the future? Please explain all the variable you've taken into account:

Specifically how our new defense looks? How the new players play? How the new strength and conditioning program affects our team? How the new offense looks? How our 17 recruits fare? How our 18 recruits fare? Does special teams still look bad?

 

[BobbyMac]

You are the sh1ttiest "fan" I've ever seen. How the fVck can you see 5 losses two years in the future? Please explain all the variable you've taken into account:

Specifically how our new defense looks? How the new players play? How the new strength and conditioning program affects our team? How the new offense looks? How our 17 recruits fare? How our 18 recruits fare? Does special teams still look bad?

I knew if I just waited, someone would write this for me. Thanks VDP.

Everyone rep him for doing our work for us.

 

[Irish#1]

You are the sh1ttiest "fan" I've ever seen. How the fVck can you see 5 losses two years in the future? Please explain all the variable you've taken into account:

Specifically how our new defense looks? How the new players play? How the new strength and conditioning program affects our team? How the new offense looks? How our 17 recruits fare? How our 18 recruits fare? Does special teams still look bad?

I knew if I just waited, someone would write this for me. Thanks VDP.

Everyone rep him for doing our work for us.

I did you both one better and didn't even read his post. Just skimmed right past it. You'll eventually learn. lol

 

[zelezo vlk]

Who's going to the Coaching Clinic? Beau?

Elite Lineup at Notre Dame Coaches Clinic | Irish Sports Daily

UND.COM :: The Official Site of Notre Dame Athletics

Matt Patricia, Pat Shurmur, Mike Sullivan, Brian Polian, and everyone's favorite rower of Boats, the Fleck himself.

 

[dublinirish]

Who's going to the Coaching Clinic? Beau?

Elite Lineup at Notre Dame Coaches Clinic | Irish Sports Daily

UND.COM :: The Official Site of Notre Dame Athletics

Matt Patricia, Pat Shurmur, Mike Sullivan, Brian Polian, and everyone's favorite rower of Boats, the Fleck himself.

nice lineup for sure Patricia and Fleck are definitely two of football's hottest young coaches and two guys I think you will all agree who can pass on some tips to BK and being personable and approachable for his players.

 

[zelezo vlk]

nice lineup for sure Patricia and Fleck are definitely two of football's hottest young coaches and two guys I think you will all agree who can pass on some tips to BK and being personable and approachable for his players.

And Polian is of course an NFL Hall of Famer. Really awesome lineup.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

nice lineup for sure Patricia and Fleck are definitely two of football's hottest young coaches and two guys I think you will all agree who can pass on some tips to BK and being personable and approachable for his players.

Incredible line-up. I wish I was into coaching just so I could go and listen to these guys talk about their craft.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Incredible line-up. I wish I was into coaching just so I could go and listen to these guys talk about their craft.

I don't coach at all, but if I were still living in Indy I'd go

 

[BeauBenken]

Who's going to the Coaching Clinic? Beau?

Elite Lineup at Notre Dame Coaches Clinic | Irish Sports Daily

UND.COM :: The Official Site of Notre Dame Athletics

Matt Patricia, Pat Shurmur, Mike Sullivan, Brian Polian, and everyone's favorite rower of Boats, the Fleck himself.

I'll probably try to.

One of the positives of a coaching staff shake up is that I get new people to listen to. 😊

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[Calabrese's People]

Who's going to the Coaching Clinic? Beau?

Elite Lineup at Notre Dame Coaches Clinic | Irish Sports Daily

UND.COM :: The Official Site of Notre Dame Athletics

Matt Patricia, Pat Shurmur, Mike Sullivan, Brian Polian, and everyone's favorite rower of Boats, the Fleck himself.

No space for Addazio though.... its ok....its fine......

 

[Blazers46]

Mike Mayock, NFL Network analyst, emerges as candidate for Washington Redskins GM job

Don't know if this is the correct thread for this but......

 

[NDPhilly]

Mike Mayock, NFL Network analyst, emerges as candidate for Washington Redskins GM job

Don't know if this is the correct thread for this but......

Please no. Literally my favorite football commentator.

 

[greyhammer90]

Please no. Literally my favorite football commentator.

One of mine. The fact that Mayock was disliked when he commented for ND is proof to me that most people should just mute the game because they won't like anyone. Yes, he said "this is fun" when ND was in a tight game. He's an impartial commentator. Get over it.

Now we have Flutie, who is just terrible.