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woolybug25 said:
Seriously, if the mods could contact them and set up a debate. Make it an invite only group thread and only have them post. Make a poll and the winner of the debate gets to come back (not saying for how long, they'll probably get banned again).

$50 buy in to get an invite to the lounge and a vote. Proceeds go to charity of winners choosing.

This could happen.
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Yes. Oh Dear God YES! I'll kick in $100 and supply the bbq & beer just to see this! lol
 
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Polish Leppy 22 said:
I'll donate $50 to the site if we let IrishPat and NJNP go at it for one day on here.
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kmoose said:
IE Pay Per View......... hmmmm
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The fight would be horrible. IrishPat would be aggressive and chase NJNP around the ring, while NJNP threw punches that never hit their mark as he dodges most of Pat's jabs/attacks, then NJNP would claim victory.
 
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GoIrish41 said:
He gave a face on IE to the anger and frustration that many in the black community feel. He offered an opinion (although at times, perhaps, too strongly) that makes many uncomfortable. I thought many times as he posted that when everyone bands together to tell him how wrong he is that it appeared to confirm the very points he was making in his posts. IE's reaction to his posting of uncomfortable points of view ... banning! Does not seem too constructive, IMHO. Do we think IE's actions made him question whether he was being a troll or do you think it just demonstrated to him that he was right all along? I acknowledge that he sometimes went too far, but I would argue that others did as well in what appeared at times to be a relentless attempt to discredit him.
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I politely disagree. He had some valid points, but he refused to acknowledge anything that refuted his posts or if it did, he would say the source wasn't credible or it was made up. I was very fair with him and asked him numerous times to respond to my statements. He never would because he knew I was right. That's what upset everyone. He wanted us to take what he said as fact but brushed off what anyone else said as heresy. He's closed minded. As long as there are people like him (no particular race) change will be slow.
 
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Laughing at the comments that "he was one of the most intelligent posters on here." We've heard that in this thread several times, since the banning.
 
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IrishinTN said:
My thread is powerful and has unlimited potential in days like these....
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This is like when you watch a movie and see the moment when the bad guy became the bad guy. The bad guy origin story.

I'd toss in a Star Wars "Unlimited Power" gif, but my phone doesn't do those well.
 
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Wow, another thread turned racist/political, who would've thought.
 
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anyone else see the irony that the NJNP banning has seemingly opened the door to an IrishPat return via the New Years IE PPV smackdown?
 
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Nevermind I stopped being lazy and read the thread
 
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Irish#1

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ND NYC said:
anyone else see the irony that the NJNP banning has seemingly opened the door to an IrishPat return via the New Years IE PPV smackdown?
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Just like WWF or WWE or whatever it's called. Story lines being written behind the scenes. Didn't you know Vince McMahon owns IE?
 
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Irish#1 said:
Just like WWF or WWE or whatever it's called. Story lines being written behind the scenes. Didn't you know Vince McMahon owns IE?
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genuine question, who actually owns IE? and how much cash does it make, is it like a full time gig? I'll hang up and listen
 
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Koon isn't alone. I found Pat to be hilarious and would welcome him back.
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I don't want to skype with him or email him. It's not like we're close. But he was awesome on here and the funniest poster IMO. Could be rackem but he went soft, and irishsteelhead doesn't post enough.

I will up the anty (antie?) to $100 schillings.

What a business opportunity for the owner. All this Pat money = updated banners, more attractive look, and a member that will keep people coming back. #FreePat!
 
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koonja said:
I don't want to skype with him or email him. It's not like we're close. But he was awesome on here and the funniest poster IMO. Could be rackem but he went soft, and irishsteelhead doesn't post enough.

I will up the anty (antie?) to $100 schillings.

What a business opportunity for the owner. All this Pat money = updated banners, more attractive look, and a member that will keep people coming back. #FreePat!
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Really?

I would bet the mods would disagree with you on this. I would guess their inboxes were full of people saying the exact opposite.
 
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Really?

I would bet the mods would disagree with you on this. I would guess their inboxes were full of people saying the exact opposite.
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I know they would, but a lot of people obviously loved Pat too. Pat was a smart, but had very strong opinions and some people didn't like his approach. I get that, but IMO, you just have to not take it personal (Pat and I's last discussion on here was an argument where I told him he was crazy - he said we shouldn't waste time recruiting guys like Alexander McKenzie.).

Not all on IE are equal. There are certain people on IE that you can and cannot go after (For instance, I'm fair game for insults, but OMM? GTFO). Pat didn't discriminate, he went after whoever he disagreed with, didn't care if they were a mod, a newb, had a billion vbucks or were looking for handouts. Part of the reason he was popular, but also got him in trouble.
 
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The difference, Koon, is that a guy like Pat actually kept people off of the site, whereas no one stopped visiting just because he was banned.

And for the record, I never took him personally, and I had my fair share of heated debates with him. I thought he was funny, mainly because I read his posts in Charlie Kelly's voice, which brightened my day. His insane rants matched Charlie's voice and character perfectly, to go along with his avatar of roid-rage Charlie Kelly.

Having said all that, now that I'm a mod, can't say I'd look forward to his return like I would have in the past.
 
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The difference, Koon, is that a guy like Pat actually kept people off of the site, whereas no one stopped visiting just because he was banned.

And for the record, I never took him personally, and I had my fair share of heated debates with him. I thought he was funny, mainly because I read his posts in Charlie Kelly's voice, which brightened my day. His insane rants matched Charlie's voice and character perfectly, to go along with his avatar of roid-rage Charlie Kelly.

Having said all that, now that I'm a mod, can't say I'd look forward to his return like I would have in the past.
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Fair enough. But I do not understand why people who don't like a poster do not block them. It's a perfect solution. I believe the people who constantly complain about a poster but do not block them, are drama mamas. I'll never understand why the people who allegedly can't stand me on here don't just block me.

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koonja said:
Fair enough. But I do not understand why people who don't like a poster do not block them. It's a perfect solution. I believe the people who constantly complain about a poster but do not block them, are drama mamas. I'll never understand why the people who allegedly can't stand me on here don't just block me.
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The ignore function is a brilliant feature, and I have always held the opinion that it should be used more widely on the site when certain issues come up again and again.

The problem arises when it goes beyond telling someone "put me on ignore," and it becomes an obvious far-reaching troll job, which is what Pat transformed into. He never answered debates head-on, danced around the ACTUAL issues being discussed in nearly every argument he had, got overly defensive at almost all times, was overly combative at almost all times when he wasn't "defending" his stance, and he started sh*tstorms for the sake of watching sh*tstorms. He would pick one side of the fence early on in a debate for no other reason than to have a "platform" to stand on later.

Ignore doesn't help when the entire site is affected. Or when all the mods would have to follow the "ignore" advice. That's just not possible.
 
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