'17 CA CB Thomas Graham (Oregon Verbal)

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Stevie is having "mixed feelings" on this one. ND sources feel confident. Sources elsewhere don't think its ND.

Here we go again. Brian Kelly an staff don't have the killer instinct on the field and they still don't have it on the recruiting trail.
 
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arrowryan said:
Stevie is having "mixed feelings" on this one. ND sources feel confident. Sources elsewhere don't think its ND.

Here we go again. Brian Kelly an staff don't have the killer instinct on the field and they still don't have it on the recruiting trail.
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Take it to the BANKS
 
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arrowryan said:
Stevie is having "mixed feelings" on this one. ND sources feel confident. Sources elsewhere don't think its ND.

Here we go again. Brian Kelly an staff don't have the killer instinct on the field and they still don't have it on the recruiting trail.
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Oh come on dude.....,Brian Kelly just visited him and his family at his house then hosted him for the banquet. What else do you want? Do you want BK to shine his shoes, give him a back massage and do his homework for him? I don't think you're a bad guy but sometimes your negativity really pisses me off.
 
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arrowryan said:
Stevie is having "mixed feelings" on this one. ND sources feel confident. Sources elsewhere don't think its ND.

Here we go again. Brian Kelly an staff don't have the killer instinct on the field and they still don't have it on the recruiting trail.
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LOL, prolly only landed banks by accident I spose....
 
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LOL, prolly only landed banks by accident I spose....
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We already have an embarrassment of riches on the o-line. Banks might be the biggest luxury in this 2017 class. This team always seems to struggle finding defensive playmakers (especially in the secondary); so, IMO, landing Graham is much more important than landing Banks (no disrespect to him either, I think he could be great under HH). But adding Graham to Adebo and Hicks will have me feeling very confident with the secondary mobing forward, especially with how some of the younger defensive backs played this year.

If I had to rank the players that Notre Dame is after over the last 2 months of the cycle, it'd look like this:

1.) Josh Paschal
2.) Thomas Graham
3.) Oliver Martin
4.) Antjuan Simmons
5.) Jamire Calvin
6.) Aaron Banks
 
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We already have an embarrassment of riches on the o-line. Banks might be the biggest luxury in this 2017 class. This team always seems to struggle finding defensive playmakers (especially in the secondary); so, IMO, landing Graham is much more important than landing Banks (no disrespect to him either, I think he could be great under HH). But adding Graham to Adebo and Hicks will have me feeling very confident with the secondary mobing forward, especially with how some of the younger defensive backs played this year.

If I had to rank the players that Notre Dame is after over the last 2 months of the cycle, it'd look like this:

1.) Josh Paschal
2.) Thomas Graham
3.) Oliver Martin
4.) Antjuan Simmons
5.) Jamire Calvin
6.) Aaron Banks
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IIRC OL depth will be thin after next year so having Banks (or a 4th OL) was an absolute necessity not luxury. We also need Paschal. I would be happy if we close with Paschal, Simmons and Graham.
 
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Oh come on dude.....,Brian Kelly just visited him and his family at his house then hosted him for the banquet. What else do you want? Do you want BK to shine his shoes, give him a back massage and do his homework for him? I don't think you're a bad guy but sometimes your negativity really pisses me off.
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Nah man. This stuff just seems to happen every year at this time. We have a chance to land a great athlete for the secondary and it would suck to let the opportunity slip away.
 
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arrowryan said:
We already have an embarrassment of riches on the o-line. Banks might be the biggest luxury in this 2017 class. This team always seems to struggle finding defensive playmakers (especially in the secondary); so, IMO, landing Graham is much more important than landing Banks (no disrespect to him either, I think he could be great under HH). But adding Graham to Adebo and Hicks will have me feeling very confident with the secondary mobing forward, especially with how some of the younger defensive backs played this year.

If I had to rank the players that Notre Dame is after over the last 2 months of the cycle, it'd look like this:

1.) Josh Paschal
2.) Thomas Graham
3.) Oliver Martin
4.) Antjuan Simmons
5.) Jamire Calvin
6.) Aaron Banks
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What does any of this have to do with closing? I agree top commits at positions of need would be welcomed over positions of want.
 
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IIRC OL depth will be thin after next year so having Banks (or a 4th OL) was an absolute necessity not luxury. We also need Paschal. I would be happy if we close with Paschal, Simmons and Graham.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think our o-lineman after next year will be: Byrne, Hoge, Ruhland, Kraemer, Eichenburg, Parker, Hainsey, Lugg, Banks, Gibbons, and probably 3 or 4 from the 2018 class.

Thats pretty deep
 
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What does any of this have to do with closing? I agree top commits at positions of need would be welcomed over positions of want.
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I'm just saying that it'd be nice if we can close on players late in the cycle that play a position that we lack playmaking ability.

We can close on o-lineman all the time, but I'd like to see the staff close on defensive backs, d-linemen, and just overall elite athletes
 
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arrowryan said:
Stevie is having "mixed feelings" on this one. ND sources feel confident. Sources elsewhere don't think its ND.
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Seems like the classic tell that he isn't coming to ND. We get this seemingly every cycle. A recruit from out west gives tons of lip service to ND but then picks some school that is almost nothing like ND. I would not be surprised to see him follow the transient position coach to Nebraska or pick Oregon out of the blue or do anything but pick ND.
 
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Seems like the classic tell that he isn't coming to ND. We get this seemingly every cycle. A recruit from out west gives tons of lip service to ND but then picks some school that is almost nothing like ND. I would not be surprised to see him follow the transient position coach to Nebraska or pick Oregon out of the blue or do anything but pick ND.
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Sure seems familiar. I know very little about recruiting but my instinct says Oregon. Taggart is a good recruiter and should be able to sell Oregon well and it allows him to stay on West Coast. Also it seems like a rech to land elite defensive talent without a DC. Unless its a unique personality like Big Lou I would think a recruit would want to know who is running the D.
 
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IrishLax said:
Seems like the classic tell that he isn't coming to ND. We get this seemingly every cycle. A recruit from out west gives tons of lip service to ND but then picks some school that is almost nothing like ND. I would not be surprised to see him follow the transient position coach to Nebraska or pick Oregon out of the blue or do anything but pick ND.
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Yup. I will be surprised if he is Irish.
 
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Man...how is it that after a very promising OV weekend, the result is this massive blow to the nads?
 
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He may be the best player overall left on our board (I think Paschal is though) but he's at probably the least position of need. Although this one stings a little if we don't get him, it won't break my heart.
 
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He may be the best player overall left on our board (I think Paschal is though) but he's at probably the least position of need. Although this one stings a little if we don't get him, it won't break my heart.
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a CB of this kids talent is always a position of need at ND.
 
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