'17 CA CB Thomas Graham (Oregon Verbal)

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Pretty sure he is an early enrollee. He told ISD that he will be deciding within the next 2 weeks.
 
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Mentioned to 247 that CJ Holmes and Elijah Hicks have been recruiting him. When asked about Hicks' status he said "I think he's solid." This is great news.
 
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Mentioned to 247 that CJ Holmes and Elijah Hicks have been recruiting him. When asked about Hicks' status he said "I think he's solid." This is great news.

Also, CB's are rolling in. 40% ND, 20% Arizona, 20% UCLA, 10% USC, 10% Oregon.
 

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dropped 43 spots in rivals

“There is no question Graham is a tremendous athlete who can shut down top receivers, but I would like to see him make more plays and develop physically. He’s still on the lean side and there is a concern how he will perform against top-end receivers at the next level. Speed and ability aren’t an issue, but he needs to keep getting bigger. Arizona, Nebraska, Oregon, Notre Dame and others remain involved with the former USC commit.” - National analyst Adam Gorney
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rancho Cucamonga (Calif.) DB Thomas Graham has a busy week of home visits, will be making decision later this month<a href="https://t.co/O12nAQ2jZe">https://t.co/O12nAQ2jZe</a> <a href="https://t.co/gtJTg9TFVq">pic.twitter.com/gtJTg9TFVq</a></p>— Greg Biggins (@GregBiggins) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregBiggins/status/806203736443920385">December 6, 2016</a></blockquote>
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He may announce Dec. 19th, not official though. Discussing final decisions with parents this week
 

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great in home w/ Mike Riley and new coach Donte' Williams-couldn't have gone better-247

ND vs Huskers battle currently

sounds like Neb w/ momentum

here is a quote from the Neb site on 247

By adding coach Williams, Nebraska improved as an option 10 times over, Graham Sr. said.
 

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This is Biggins main reason.

ND should have fired Booker and hired him. Rearranged the staff to make it work. Then hired Jimmy Lake for DC. With those two and Sanford, SC and Washington would be asking us who they can recruit on the west coast.
 

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Why in the hell would you follow a position coach to another school, unless you truly wanted to go there. That coach has clearly shown that he'll leave his current position if another one arises, that is better. What happens if this had taken place next year, and Thomas had already enrolled at Arizona? Does Thomas transfer to Nebraska?

I realize the emotion behind it, but shocked so many families are into that.
 
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Why in the hell would you follow a position coach to another school, unless you truly wanted to go there. That coach has clearly shown that he'll leave his current position if another one arises, that is better. What happens if this had taken place next year, and Thomas had already enrolled at Arizona? Does Thomas transfer to Nebraska?

I realize the emotion behind it, but shocked so many families are into that.

If this position coach is that big of a deal, he's probably uber charasmatic and can easily get someone excited to play for him. Plus, it's easy for him to say 'this is exactly where I wanted to be and I can't wait to get started'.

And how often do coaches leave willingly after 1 year? He's probably there at least 2 years, so Graham can count on that. Plus, the guy says 'I'm staying here to become the DC one day, and hopefully the HC'. It's easy for a charasmatic person to appear 'all in' at the beginning of a new gig, especially when it's an upgrade and they probably truly believe they'll be there for a while.
 
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Why in the hell would you follow a position coach to another school, unless you truly wanted to go there. That coach has clearly shown that he'll leave his current position if another one arises, that is better. What happens if this had taken place next year, and Thomas had already enrolled at Arizona? Does Thomas transfer to Nebraska?

I realize the emotion behind it, but shocked so many families are into that.

The other half of that equation is that ND has a personable position coach with an amiable personality who might have been able to close on Graham... except he doesn't know if he will even be around next year.
 

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What ND has to do is get Graham and Johnson with Lyght and Burris and talk about what it takes to be an All American, an NFL player, a Pro Bowl Player, a Super Bowl Champion and a fvcking millionaire. Do you want to learn how to do that from coaches that DID it or from a guy who played FCS football and has been a P5 assistant for 11 months?

Then have Wolly swing by and take them to a strip club.
 

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What ND has to do is get Graham and Johnson with Lyght and Burris and talk about what it takes to be an All American, an NFL player, a Pro Bowl Player, a Super Bowl Champion and a fvcking millionaire. Do you want to learn how to do that from coaches that DID it or from a guy who played FCS football and has been a P5 assistant for 11 months?

Then have Wolly swing by and take them to a strip club.

Wooly will need to swing through and take them to Chicago. Ain't nobody ever wanted to be at the strip club in SB.
 

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If this position coach is that big of a deal, he's probably uber charasmatic and can easily get someone excited to play for him. Plus, it's easy for him to say 'this is exactly where I wanted to be and I can't wait to get started'.

And how often do coaches leave willingly after 1 year? He's probably there at least 2 years, so Graham can count on that. Plus, the guy says 'I'm staying here to become the DC one day, and hopefully the HC'. It's easy for a charasmatic person to appear 'all in' at the beginning of a new gig, especially when it's an upgrade and they probably truly believe they'll be there for a while.

I was talking from the perspective of the player and family. My post had nothing to do with the coach's perspective. I realize its easy for him to say that, that's not the point. It doesn't matter if he appears all in. All meaningless points.

The point is, you are either an idiot for believing it, or your priorities need to be re-arranged. He has proven no loyalty to players he recruited at Arizona, so why would he for you, at Nebraska. Not difficult to understand.

Now if a prospect truly wants to be at Nebraska, by all means, play some Big 10 ball. However, its very apparent that this coach is willing to move regardless of his relationships with the players. No reason for a player to have that type of commitment towards him.
 
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Simply put, if you make a decision on where to go to college on a position coach that has had EIGHT JOBS IN TEN YEARS you're a total fucking moron.

Donte Williams is regarded by all as an elite recruiter and guys like him, Tosh, etc. got their reputations because they are damn good at sales. I don't begrudge his talents selling a product... good for him. I begrudge anyone who is that enamored by a transient position coach to pledge their futures to a guy who very well may be somewhere else before they ever step foot on the field.
 

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Simply put, if you make a decision on where to go to college on a position coach that has had EIGHT JOBS IN TEN YEARS you're a total fucking moron.

Donte Williams is regarded by all as an elite recruiter and guys like him, Tosh, etc. got their reputations because they are damn good at sales. I don't begrudge his talents selling a product... good for him. I begrudge anyone who is that enamored by a transient position coach to pledge their futures to a guy who very well may be somewhere else before they ever step foot on the field.

Amen, and per usual, substantially better articulated than mine.
 

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I'm still not understanding why everyone is trying to get inside the heads of 17-18 year old kids......I've got two boys, ages 9 & 7, and I don't get half the shit they're thinking about, lol
 
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I'm still not understanding why everyone is trying to get inside the heads of 17-18 year old kids......I've got two boys, ages 9 & 7, and I don't get half the shit they're thinking about, lol

I hear ya bro. I think back to when I was 17/18. I was VERY eradic and unprectable in my behaviour. I had 6 Canadian University football scholarship offers and had a heck of a time choosing and changed my mind a thousand times. I've pumped the breaks on making guesses or speculation on what these teenagers decide.
 

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That article said that Aaron Banks was going to Michigan.....

Yeah, because Biggins felt that way until he learned more info this morning and changed it. The article was already out. Both sources were Biggins
 

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Biggins the best west coast source on any site thinks Nebraska leads for Graham
 
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