Sept 22 | Wake Forest

[ACamp1900]

what. Is Book White?

Apparently there is a twist...

 

[irishog77]

Flutie might cream his jeans watching Book

I have zero belief that Flutie watches ND games he is not announcing.

If Book starts against Stanford, I have a 100% belief Flutie will text Book asking him to send pics in a mid-rif, cut-off tee.

 

[OhioIrish31]

I wonder if BW gets snaps? This should be interesting. I've been a BW supporter through all of this but if it's Book's turn then I'll be behind him 100%.

 

[ulukinatme]

Book is about 200x better than Brandon at making the read on options and RPO's

I don't know if Book playing as the primary QB makes the ceiling on the offense significantly higher, but I think there's an argument to be made that it would raise the floor, based on what we've seen to this point.

This. I don't care how high the ceiling is with Wimbush if the floor is several levels below ground. You don't want feast or famine with your QB. We need some more consistency. We know what we have with Wimbush at this point, and maybe they did the right thing giving him a few games to see if things improved, but this is the right move especially with Stanford looming next week. We need to see where Book is at and it's much better to do it now than at the end of the season.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

If Book starts against Stanford, I have a 100% belief Flutie will text Book asking him to send pics in a mid-rif, cut-off tee.

Doug the Flesh Flutist.

 

[Irishbounty28]

Book was very efficient against LSU in the bowl game, and hasn't missed a pass this year.

Both Book and Wimbush in the backfield at the same time. Snap it to one for the short game, and the other for the long ball.

 

[spoonidentity]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Asked Brian Kelly twice who’s starting at quarterback on Saturday. <br><br>Twice he says both Brandon Wimbush and Ian Book will both play.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1042894150369202177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Asked from the reps between Brandon WImbush and Ian Book in practice, Brian Kelly says it’s been closer to 50-50 than his usual 60-40. <br><br>Based on training camp, it was at least 60-40 in favor of Wimbush.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1042896090843033600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mixing up reps in practice - but no confirmation on who will play when and how much.

 

[Wild Bill]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Asked Brian Kelly twice who’s starting at quarterback on Saturday. <br><br>Twice he says both Brandon Wimbush and Ian Book will both play.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1042894150369202177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Asked from the reps between Brandon WImbush and Ian Book in practice, Brian Kelly says it’s been closer to 50-50 than his usual 60-40. <br><br>Based on training camp, it was at least 60-40 in favor of Wimbush.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1042896090843033600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mixing up reps in practice - but no confirmation on who will play when and how much.

No need to make it easier on wake to prepare.

 

[Irishize]

I wonder if BW gets snaps? This should be interesting. I've been a BW supporter through all of this but if it's Book's turn then I'll be behind him 100%.

Ideally, they give BW the first drive since it’s been the most efficient & successful thus far. Then, hand the keys over to Book and see him run the short-to-intermediate stuff. Gotta think that could initially catch WF unprepared as well.

 

[ND88]

I sense some trickery going on here. I don’t believe Kelly is ready to pull Wimbush as the season starter. Book might get the nod to start against Wake, but it’s an experiemental move. It seems like it’s more of an attempt to get Stanford off balance in their prep work.

 

[irish2018]

The Notre Dame play calling does not often suit
Wimbush's strengths. Many times one wonders
with the play selection --why not play Book ?

I do not think that Kelly's style of coaching
nor his control preferences allow him
to fully live and die with Wimbush
and this cannot but undermine Wimbush
to some extent.

There have been ample times to give
Book some series and they have not
shaken it up yet.

It is good to be less than transparent with
WF and the press

Yet,the team and offensive players especially need to
know.

The biggest danger is that if we win ugly again
with Book. Our defense and kicking game continues
to play well but our offense is mediocre as it has been
for 10 of 12 quarters.

You risk having 0 quarterbacks rather than two
with Stanford and Vtech up next.

The upside is both quarterbacks play well
vs WF and Stanford has a much more difficult
game preparation for their defense.

Kelly is visibly giving play calls
in many key situations. I
do not think that even Long has
full control of his OC role.


I do not find flutie as bad as many fellows here do

I actually hear him often saying in his contructive
criticisms of ND---heck why aren't these guys better
than they are ? which many nd loyalists
often ponder ourselves?

 

[DONTH8]

The Notre Dame play calling does not often suit
Wimbush's strengths. Many times one wonders
with the play selection --why not play Book ?

I do not think that Kelly's style of coaching
nor his control preferences allow him
to fully live and die with Wimbush
and this cannot but undermine Wimbush
to some extent.

There have been ample times to give
Book some series and they have not
shaken it up yet.

It is good to be less than transparent with
WF and the press

Yet,the team and offensive players especially need to
know.

The biggest danger is that if we win ugly again
with Book. Our defense and kicking game continues
to play well but our offense is mediocre as it has been
for 10 of 12 quarters.

You risk having 0 quarterbacks rather than two
with Stanford and Vtech up next.

The upside is both quarterbacks play well
vs WF and Stanford has a much more difficult
game preparation for their defense.

Kelly is visibly giving play calls
in many key situations. I
do not think that even Long has
full control of his OC role.


I do not find flutie as bad as many fellows here do

I actually hear him often saying in his contructive
criticisms of ND---heck why aren't these guys better
than they are ? which many nd loyalists
often ponder ourselves?

First of all, I thought you had written a poem when I first saw this post. I blame my creative writing class that I have to take this semester.

As to the bolded: When have you seen Kelly visibly calling plays? I can't recall a time. I think you are just taking him talking into his mic and saying he's calling plays. But I'd argue he hasn't been calling plays. His demeanor on the sidelines the past 2 years is way different than when he was definitely calling the plays every year before.

 

[Meacon Irish]

I'm all for Ian getting a chance to play, but the only consistent thing our offense has done (besides disappear in the second half...) is drive down on the opening drive and get points. I'd rather us start Brandon and see if we can keep that train rolling, and then bring Ian in when we inevitably hit our 3-and-out brick wall.

 

[irishnd31]

If Book starts against Stanford, I have a 100% belief Flutie will text Book asking him to send pics in a mid-rif, cut-off tee.

Jesus, Koon hopefully gets cut in on that. Kooner loves young abs like Flutie loves Flutie.

 

[NDdomer2]

What I guess I don't understand is, there is no way Wimbush looked significantly better in camp than the sum of all last year and what we've seen through 3 games so far to not see any issue that would now be forcing you to replace him as starter. So why not Book right off the bat?

60/40 or 50/50 in reps is doing no one any favors.

 

[Irish YJ]

Ideally, they give BW the first drive since it’s been the most efficient & successful thus far. Then, hand the keys over to Book and see him run the short-to-intermediate stuff. Gotta think that could initially catch WF unprepared as well.

I'm good with BW starting and Book coming if/when BW's O stalls. Then give Book a few series and see how he does.

First of all, I thought you had written a poem when I first saw this post. I blame my creative writing class that I have to take this semester.

As to the bolded: When have you seen Kelly visibly calling plays? I can't recall a time. I think you are just taking him talking into his mic and saying he's calling plays. But I'd argue he hasn't been calling plays. His demeanor on the sidelines the past 2 years is way different than when he was definitely calling the plays every year before.

I've heard a lot of talk that BK is heavy handed relevant to play calling. Not sure if BK is actually calling any plays, but I'm guessing Chip doesn't have total freedom either. I'd bet some cash BK is the primary creator of the scripted opening drives, and at minimum has a lot input throughout the game.

 

[NDdomer2]

If I had to guess BK is heavily involved in scripting first drive, then holds veto power rest of the way. He mentioned the other day they need to be better "play repeaters". I.E. if it works run it again

 

[Huntr]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll say this about the QB situation. If Notre Dame goes with Ian Book moving forward it’s both ballsy and refreshing.<br><br>Not enough teams willing to make a change without the impetus of a loss. Shouldn’t be that way. Make a decision opposed to having the decision made for you.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1042916477433794561?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2018</a></blockquote>

 

[Irish YJ]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll say this about the QB situation. If Notre Dame goes with Ian Book moving forward it’s both ballsy and refreshing.<br><br>Not enough teams willing to make a change without the impetus of a loss. Shouldn’t be that way. Make a decision opposed to having the decision made for you.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1042916477433794561?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2018</a></blockquote>

wonder if BK phoned up Saban this week...

 

[NDdomer2]

Pete's been pushing this since camp right?

 

[MNIrishman]

I'd love to see some tricky plays from this. Wimbush in the backfield, takes the handoff, throws to a receiver on a go route...

 

[Irish YJ]

I will say this... Week 4 with the Irish just got a whole lot more interesting.

 

[BobbyMac]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll say this about the QB situation. If Notre Dame goes with Ian Book moving forward it’s both ballsy and refreshing.<br><br>Not enough teams willing to make a change without the impetus of a loss. Shouldn’t be that way. Make a decision opposed to having the decision made for you.</p>— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/1042916477433794561?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yawn. This is like Kate Jackson and Jaclyn Smith fighting over who's the best looking Angel.

5 Star Phil's team going forward. The only questions are:

Is he regression proof?

How many seasons will he get under Joe Moorhead?

 

[Henges24]

Smart move

 

[ShawneeIrish]

I like the idea of switching things up because the offense has been anemic. The only thing I do not understand is why did we not first give Book some full drives the past two games? If you are suddenly willing to make him the starter it would have been nice to see him in action first.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

This team isn’t making the playoffs with Wimbush unless his accuracy turns around book gives this team the best bet

 

[TDHeysus]

maybe they 'reverse roles' for this week.

Book is the primary QB, with Wimbush coming in for certain situations. Maybe limiting Wimbush makes him more efficient, while Book provides a nice bed of consistency through out the game.

The end result could be higher offensive output.

 

[Irish YJ]

maybe they 'reverse roles' for this week.

Book is the primary QB, with Wimbush coming in for certain situations. Maybe limiting Wimbush makes him more efficient, while Book provides a nice bed of consistency through out the game.

The end result could be higher offensive output.

I'd use Book between the 10s..

 

[T-Boone]

Get Wimbush on punt return.

 

[Irish YJ]

I would seriously line up both Book and BK in the RZ... direct snap to either. That would F with Ds hard.