Political Correctness thread

[irishog77]

You think so? Objectively, I think he should. But I don't think any of the justices are going to try to be objective in their ruling. Can't see Kennedy or any of the liberals wanting to get smeared on Twitter.

Yep, would be awful

 

[zelezo vlk]

You think so? Objectively, I think he should. But I don't think any of the justices are going to try to be objective in their ruling. Can't see Kennedy or any of the liberals wanting to get smeared on Twitter.

Maybe or maybe not, but this was interesting to see

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I know oral arguments are not necessarily a precursor to any particular decision but this is pretty strong language from Justice Kennedy. <a href="https://t.co/YKpuIE3tKp">pic.twitter.com/YKpuIE3tKp</a></p>— Jay Caruso (@JayCaruso) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayCaruso/status/938131897154199557?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Wild Bill]

Maybe or maybe not, but this was interesting to see

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I know oral arguments are not necessarily a precursor to any particular decision but this is pretty strong language from Justice Kennedy. <a href="https://t.co/YKpuIE3tKp">pic.twitter.com/YKpuIE3tKp</a></p>— Jay Caruso (@JayCaruso) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayCaruso/status/938131897154199557?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Heard he went after them hard for their treatment of the baker, in particular a specific employee of the state. An attorney present in court who has a lot of experience with scotus said Kennedy was in rare form.

I think it's 5-4 bake your own fucking cake.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--Y7nbKQV9ys/Vt8LMqE4eAI/AAAAAAAATfA/8mQirQeKX34/s1600/HomosexualActivistsLBGTBakeMyCake11130140_10200526944171526_294534521920097925_n.jpg

 

[Bishop2b5]

The one saving grace is that the administration doesn't seem to be backing down. Where does the line end though? Do we erase our entire history because every damn person or folk hero this country produced up until the signing of the Declaration of Independence is pretty much affiliated with either slavery or actions that are considered inappropriate in the 21st century? When and where does the madness end? This is history, not current news.

This is one of my big issues. Too often we take people from the past whose upbringing, education, values, etc. were quite different from today's, but we judge them by today's view of what's right, wrong, acceptable, or the norm. Those people were functioning under a very different set of rules, were taught different things, lived in a different culture, and the world they lived in was NOT the world of today. To harshly judge them as we often do and attempt to smear them or remove them from our history is a grave injustice to them and our history.

 

[SonofOahu]

I'm actually for the baker on this one. I know, surprise, surprise! Seriously, though. If you're the couple, why give the guy your business? Was he the only baker in town?

Look how much free marketing his ass got because of this case.

 

[Legacy]

Lest we forget:

Chick-fil-A same-sex marriage controversy

 

[GowerND11]

I'm actually for the baker on this one. I know, surprise, surprise! Seriously, though. If you're the couple, why give the guy your business? Was he the only baker in town?

Look how much free marketing his ass got because of this case.

I read an article in the local paper the other day about the case (not sure if it was a national article or not). Basically the author said there were two options: Do the neighborly thing, understand why he isn't baking the cake, ask him to come over for dinner some time, have a civil discussion, etc. The second option was take it to court, let the state get involved, devolve the situation to data and stuff, dehumanize the people, allow the public to vilify, etc.

 

[irishog77]

I'm actually for the baker on this one. I know, surprise, surprise! Seriously, though. If you're the couple, why give the guy your business? Was he the only baker in town?

Look how much free marketing his ass got because of this case.

Nope. And there were almost certainly bakers in town behind their cause- their county voted something like 63 or 65% for hillary in 2016.

The more info we see about this case, it seems the less it is about "equal rights" and more about public shaming.

And speaking of public shaming, the left/lgbqtetc crowd did well with August Ames.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Nope. And there were almost certainly bakers in town behind their cause- their county voted something like 63 or 65% for hillary in 2016.

The more info we see about this case, it seems the less it is about "equal rights" and more about public shaming.

And speaking of public shaming, the left/lgbqtetc crowd did well with August Ames.

ATTENTION EVERYONE, DO NOT GOOGLE THIS PERSON AT WORK

 

[IrishLax]

I'm actually for the baker on this one. I know, surprise, surprise! Seriously, though. If you're the couple, why give the guy your business? Was he the only baker in town?

Look how much free marketing his ass got because of this case.

To me the crazy thing is how they're trying to dehumanize him. Like, one might find his stance objectionable, but it's not like he called them fags and told him to get out of his store before he shoots.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Daily reminder: the baker doesn't refuse to serve LGBT couples and, in fact, offered the couple in question here any of the pre-made cakes. The baker refused to bake a custom cake for a gay wedding. <a href="https://t.co/6hYssiIN5Z">https://t.co/6hYssiIN5Z</a></p>— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) <a href="https://twitter.com/gabrielmalor/status/939222893350842373?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 8, 2017</a></blockquote>
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He respectfully declined to lend his culinary skills and time to something he found objectionable. What's really the big deal? What happens when a Muslim baker is asked to bake a wedding cake that says "Muhammad diddled a 9 year and is a pedophile"... it's factually accurate. Can they decline the business if the people asking are straight? What if they're gay?

I get the "slippery slope" argument but outside of that I don't see how one could objectively rule against the baker.

 

[BGIF]

'Jingle Bells' rooted in racism, Boston University professor says | Fox News
By Caleb Parke | Fox News 12/15/17

Boston University professor says 'Jingle Bells' is racist
Theater history professor says Christmas classic was originally performed to make fun of African-Americans.

“Jingle Bells,” one of the most well-known Christmas carols in the world, is now being called racist.

A Boston University theater professor claims the Christmas carol has a “problematic history” because it was originally performed to make fun of African Americans.

“The legacy of ‘Jingle Bells’ is one where its blackface and racist origins have been subtly and systematically removed from its history,” Kyna Hamill, a BU theater historian, wrote in her “Theatre Survey” research paper on the story of “Jingle Bells.”

“Although ‘One Horse Open Sleigh,’ for most of its singers and listeners, may have eluded its racialized past and taken its place in the seemingly unproblematic romanticization of a normal ‘white’ Christmas, attention to the circumstances of its performance history enables reflection on its problematic role in the construction of blackness and whiteness in the United States,” she wrote.

Hamill started researching the history of the famous Christmas carol after a so-called “Jingle Bells War” – a dispute between two towns, Medford, Mass. and Savannah, Ga. – that claim to be the birthplace of the song written by James Pierpont.

“Its origins emerged from the economic needs of a perpetually unsuccessful man, the racial politics of antebellum Boston, the city’s climate, and the intertheatrical repertoire of commercial blackface performers moving between Boston and New York,” Hamill wrote.

The traces of blackface minstrel origins can be found in the music and lyrics, as well as the “elements of ‘male display,’ boasting, and the unbridled behavior of the male body onstage,” the author wrote.

The song’s lyrics, which Hamill adds “display no real originality,” and reference things like “Miss Fanny Bright” and “dashing through the snow” connect the song to blackface dandy, according to the research paper.

“Words such as ‘thro,’ ‘tho’t,’ and ‘upsot’ suggest a racialized performance that attempted to sound ‘southern’ to a northern audience,” Hamill wrote.

“As I mentioned in my article, the first documented performance of the song is in a blackface minstrel hall in Boston in 1857, the same year it was copyrighted,” Hamill told Fox News. “Much research has been done on the problematic history of this nineteenth-century entertainment.”

Hamill added that her research has been public for two years and has nothing to do with Christmas.

Jingle Bells was the first song ever broadcast from outer space in 1965, as reported by History.com.

The research paper was widely panned on social media with Twitter users calling it liberal overreach.

“Jingle Bells is racist, White Christmas is racist, Baby it’s Cold Outside is sexist. What the hell happend to the America I grew up in where people didn’t wake up every day trying to find something to be offended by?” one Twitter user wrote.

Another Twitter user said the song’s history is largely being maligned.

“Jingle Bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way, oh what fun it is to ride in a one horse open sleigh ! It's not racist,” another one wrote. “That professor is an idiot. The actors had black face because in the time, blacks weren't allowed to act. Because they sang it, doesn't make it racist.”

Jingle Bell Lyrics
[Verse 1]
Dashing through the snow
In a one-horse open sleigh
O'er the fields we go
Laughing all the way
Bells on bobtails ring
Making spirits bright
What fun it is to ride and sing
A sleighing song tonight

[Chorus]
Jingle bells, jingle bells
Jingle all the way
Oh what fun it is to ride
In a one-horse open sleigh, hey
Jingle bells, jingle bells
Jingle all the way
Oh what fun it is to ride
In a one-horse open sleigh

[Verse 2]
A day or two ago
I thought I'd take a ride
And soon, Miss Fanny Bright
Was seated by my side
The horse was lean and lank
Misfortune seemed his lot
He got into a drifted bank
And then we got upsot

[Chorus]
Jingle bells, jingle bells
Jingle all the way
Oh what fun it is to ride
In a one-horse open sleigh, hey
Jingle bells, jingle bells
Jingle all the way
Oh what fun it is to ride
In a one-horse open sleigh

[Verse 3]
A day or two ago
The story I must tell
I went out on the snow
And on my back I fell
A gent was riding by
In a one-horse open sleigh
He laughed as there I sprawling lie
But quickly drove away

[Chorus]
Jingle bells, jingle bells
Jingle all the way
Oh what fun it is to ride
In a one-horse open sleigh, hey
Jingle bells, jingle bells
Jingle all the way
Oh what fun it is to ride
In a one-horse open sleigh

[Verse 4]
Now the ground is white
Go it while you're young
Take the girls tonight
And sing this sleighing song
Just get a bobtailed bay
Two forty as his speed
Hitch him to an open sleigh
And crack, you'll take the lead

[Chorus]
Jingle bells, jingle bells
Jingle all the way
Oh what fun it is to ride
In a one-horse open sleigh, hey
Jingle bells, jingle bells
Jingle all the way
Oh what fun it is to ride
In a one-horse open sleigh

 

[zelezo vlk]

I'm okay with replacing the lyrics then. Jingle Bells' official lyrics are now the ones to Jingle Bells Batman Smells

 

[IrishLax]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The brilliant <a href="https://twitter.com/Luvvie?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Luvvie</a> has compiled a list of all the black women running for elected office in the United States right now. With links to ways you can SUPPORT THEM! <a href="https://t.co/OoMpzyyXSk">https://t.co/OoMpzyyXSk</a></p>— Sally Kohn (@sallykohn) <a href="https://twitter.com/sallykohn/status/941688631940517888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Legit racism/sexism saying to support people because of their skin color and gender only.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yeesh, that analogy. This list aims to increase diversity in elected offices. Spencer wants to kill it. <br><br>And u can only think that wanting MORE diversity means accepting LESS quality/qualifications if u think women of color are inherently inferior. You don’t think that, right? <a href="https://t.co/c1pAVKjbaS">https://t.co/c1pAVKjbaS</a></p>— Sally Kohn (@sallykohn) <a href="https://twitter.com/sallykohn/status/941714297146798080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Hilarious, desperate attempt at a face saving pivot to "no, YOU'RE the racist!"

 

[ACamp1900]

Yeah.... we are all a bunch of out of touch white guys..............

 

[zelezo vlk]

Yeah.... we are all a bunch of out of touch white guys..............

You're definitely not #woke

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[Irish YJ]

I don't agree with her politics, but she's had some funny moments on Fox. For a self described alt-left lesbian progressive, she's not bad.

She's more concerned with "emotional correctness". Thinks Sean Hannity is wrong about politics, but is emotionally correct lol.

 

[IrishLion]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/2479...62316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro#exit-modal

They hate the gays, but they sure do love them some good deeds!

(I absolutely have no problem with same-sex marriage. Get married to who you love and be happy, regardless of gender. You deserve it. But I found great irony in the 2012 "boycott" of Chick-fil-A based on their Christian ownership, when those preaching tolerance were actually those being intolerant. And I continue to find great irony in the fact that Chick-fil-A is constantly going above-and-beyond to help their fellow man and their customers, even though their ownership is so *terrible* for having their own beliefs.)

 

[zelezo vlk]

Damn it IL, now I want Chickfila

 

[IrishLion]

Somewhat related that I may have shared previously:

My campus sent out a poll a few years ago and asked students, faculty and staff to vote on what well-known food franchise should be given license to operate in our Student Union.

Chick-fil-A won in an overwhelming landslide... they got like 85% of the vote, Skyline got like 10%, and McDonalds got like 5%.

My institution then balked at the results, and stalled on putting ANYTHING new into the Union for two years.

When they finally put something new in, they went with the uncontroversial Steak-n-Shake, which hadn't even been one of the options.

They were straight up with the campus community when they made the announcement and recognized that Chick-fil-A had won the overwhelming majority of support, but they didn't want to deal with any potential backlash.

I guess that's better than saying "we wanted to maintain safe spaces for certain groups."

 

[zelezo vlk]

Sounds like they made the right choice. Steak-n-Shake chili > Skyline

 

[IrishLion]

Sounds like they made the right choice. Steak-n-Shake chili > Skyline

 

[ACamp1900]

There is only one franchise chili I've ever really enjoyed, restaurant or fast food... at least that I can think of currently... and where it's from will shock and disturb people I'm sure.

 

[gkIrish]

There is only one franchise chili I've ever really enjoyed, restaurant or fast food... at least that I can think of currently... and where it's from will shock and disturb people I'm sure.

Wendy's?

 

[zelezo vlk]

Wendy's?

I like Wendy's chili too. Something about cheap chili makes my mouth water. Must be the quarter pound of grease or something

 

[ACamp1900]

Wendy's?

I actually have enjoyed theirs in the past, those chili seasoning packets too, now that you mention it but I don't eat at Wendy's... it's been years.

nah, actually Del Taco. Of all the freakin things a fast food Americanized Mexican place could have to stand out, their chili is really good. Love their chili cheese fries.

 

[greyhammer90]

Wendy's?

Wendy's taco salad is life. Very good, very calorically reasonable, very filling.

 

[Bishop2b5]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/2479...62316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro#exit-modal

They hate the gays, but they sure do love them some good deeds!

(I absolutely have no problem with same-sex marriage. Get married to who you love and be happy, regardless of gender. You deserve it. But I found great irony in the 2012 "boycott" of Chick-fil-A based on their Christian ownership, when those preaching tolerance were actually those being intolerant. And I continue to find great irony in the fact that Chick-fil-A is constantly going above-and-beyond to help their fellow man and their customers, even though their ownership is so *terrible* for having their own beliefs.)

When the Atlanta airport shut down due to a power outage this past Sunday, stranding thousands, Chick-fil-A opened and began taking food to the airport to help feed everyone.

 

[Bishop2b5]

What does everyone think of the Matt Damon controversy of the past week? If you're not familiar with it, Damon basically said:

1. He was glad women were feeling empowered to speak up about sexual harassment and help bring an end to it.

2. All sexual harassment was unacceptable and needed to stop.

OK, all good so far to the PC crowd. It was the next two points that made some people's heads explode.

3. Not all sexual harassment was equal, and it fell on a spectrum of badness, where something like patting a woman's butt was wrong and unacceptable, but not to be conflated with rape or child molestation.

4. Depending on the severity of the harassment and how the perpetrator handled it (admission & sincerity of his apology), there should be room for forgiveness and not ruining a person's life & career.

Twitter and several famous women - most notably Minnie Driver, Debra Messing, and Alysa Milano - went absolutely NUTS over Damon's comments and he's been under relentless fire since. Honestly, I don't think he's off base here. My wife (who's rather liberal) thought his comments were perfectly reasonable and had no problem with them and thought the outrage against him for them was stupid and nothing more than faux outrage.

 

[ACamp1900]

Eating their own

 

[wizards8507]