Political Correctness thread

NDohio

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Every day I'm more and more thankful that:
1) I went to Notre Dame, which is not an ultra-liberal echo chamber of sissies and where we could have real discussions about things with normal people.
2) I went to school before social media was really what it is right now.

If you wouldn't mind - and might have some time to explain this - could you send me a PM going into a little more detail on this? I would like to share it with her as ND is on her list.

EDIT: PM is fine.
 

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If you wouldn't mind - and might have some time to explain this - could you send me a PM going into a little more detail on this? I would like to share it with her as ND is on her list.

EDIT: PM is fine.

No need to PM IMO. Not to speak for Lax, but ND is basically conservative enough that professors lecture you about the subject of the class rather than their political beliefs. Students feel comfortable in small seminars to express their opinions without fear of retribution. Students don't have safe spaces they can crawl into when they feel upset about some PC bullcrap.

I think it is a great place to get an actual education.
 

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No need to PM IMO. Not to speak for Lax, but ND is basically conservative enough that professors lecture you about the subject of the class rather than their political beliefs. Students feel comfortable in small seminars to express their opinions without fear of retribution. Students don't have safe spaces they can crawl into when they feel upset about some PC bullcrap.

I think it is a great place to get an actual education.

Thanks.
 

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No need to PM IMO. Not to speak for Lax, but ND is basically conservative enough that professors lecture you about the subject of the class rather than their political beliefs. Students feel comfortable in small seminars to express their opinions without fear of retribution. Students don't have safe spaces they can crawl into when they feel upset about some PC bullcrap.

I think it is a great place to get an actual education.

Pretty much nailed it. Look, I did the whole Ivy vs Notre Dame thing. I got into every school I applied to... Dartmouth, Cornell, Notre Dame, University of Virginia, and Georgia Tech. Every school had positives and negatives, and this was before the safe space/trigger warning/social media shaming revolution on college campuses. Things have certainly escalated since I graduated.

I will say that knowing what I know now I am extremely glad I didn't go to any Ivy League school. I have many friends that did, and a lot of them have very bad things to say. I don't think I would have had as much personal growth or as much fun at any of them. It was a very tough choice at the time, especially because of how good Cornell's engineering is, but if I had to do it over again it'd be a comically easy decision. Reading what I read about Ivy League schools and Cal Berkeley and their ilk... I don't see how anyone who wants to grow would choose one of those places.

At Notre Dame, I made a diverse group of lifelong friends. Some very religious, some atheist. Some liberal, some conservative, some moderate. Some white, some Latino, some Asian, some African American (though African Americans are definitely a bit underrepresented on campus outside of athletics). No topic was taboo, and moreover Notre Dame's emphasis on philosophy classes for all students was incredible for me in terms of grasping how to logically approach discussion of a topic, form arguments, and evaluate their merit.

Furthermore, I look at my job and financial situation and I don't see how I could be better off having gone anywhere else except maybe Stanford. You said your daughter is interested in being a doctor... well, I have a core group of friends who vacations together and plays in the same fantasy football league and such and literally half are doctors. The others are a finance guy, a Ph.D., and another engineer. And of my wife's friends from her dorm she is extremely close with another three doctors. And that's not counting the dozens of peripheral friends who are doctors. Notre Dame has one of the best pre-professional science programs in existence and they put a ton of people in med school.

In short, unless you're planning on moving abroad I don't think having an Ivy League degree does much more for you than one from Duke or Vandy or Notre Dame or the like. Especially not if headed to medical school. And there are a LOT of cultural drawbacks.
 

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This was real, until UM pulled it.....

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Better article from USAToday....SIAP

'Tolerant' educators exile Trump voters from campus: Glenn Reynolds

How is this sort of thing not a civil rights violation or an example of discrimination? Substitute women, Blacks, gays, or any other preferred group for conservatives or Trump supporters in such examples, and you'd have every lawyer in the country lining up to sue. I'd love to see any school doing something like this get sued to hell and back and have to pay millions in fines.
 

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Re The Michigan Law thing: Are we sure that was election related at all? Generally this is the time of year where some huge projects are being turned in for 1Ls across the country. It's pretty common for law schools to do stuff like this in an attempt to prevent suicide attempts from over-stressed 1Ls.
 

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Re The Michigan Law thing: Are we sure that was election related at all? Generally this is the time of year where some huge projects are being turned in for 1Ls across the country. It's pretty common for law schools to do stuff like this in an attempt to prevent suicide attempts from over-stressed 1Ls.
Read the headline.

"Self-care with Food and Play" sounds seriously masturbatory.
 

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DePaul University has banned Ben Shapiro from speaking on campus today. The topic? Campus Intolerance. Shapiro plans to speak anyways. #FreeDePaul to follow.
 

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Just dumb semantics. Just say congrats and don't make a big deal out of something so little as expressing your happiness for an engaged couple.

Exactly. Nothing said in the article is all that bad, but it's just... pointless.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alert!My co-speaker <a href="https://twitter.com/benshapiro">@benshapiro</a> has been banned from our DePaul talk. Topic: Campus intolerance. (He's planning to speak anyway) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FreeDePaul?src=hash">#FreeDePaul</a></p>— Christina H. Sommers (@CHSommers) <a href="https://twitter.com/CHSommers/status/798562213086773248">November 15, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Seriously? Him and Milo should team up for the BANNED! Tour or the You're Not Allowed to See This Tour
 

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Re The Michigan Law thing: Are we sure that was election related at all? Generally this is the time of year where some huge projects are being turned in for 1Ls across the country. It's pretty common for law schools to do stuff like this in an attempt to prevent suicide attempts from over-stressed 1Ls.

"Post-Election"
 

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Now LeBron James is upset because Phil Jackson uses the word "posse" because it denigrates him? Sticks and stones LeBron, sticks and stones..............
 

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Gotta admit the posse one caught me off guard. Is posse not PC? The only negative connotations I could figure would be ties to old west criminals, but in today's society I thought posse was a cool term for one's entourage?
 

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Gotta admit the posse one caught me off guard. Is posse not PC? The only negative connotations I could figure would be ties to old west criminals, but in today's society I thought posse was a cool term for one's entourage?

Even Deadspin said it was a "huge stretch" to infer any kind of racial connotation to the word. We live in a world now where a black person can call anything they want "racially motivated" and you just have to smile and nod or be labeled a racist.

Similar crap last week with Richard Sherman... Dan Carpenter's wife expresses anger at his cheap shot, he calls he a racist for he word choice. It's the go-to for all athletes.
 

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Yeah the posse thing is really befuddling. I literally refer to my friends as my posse all the time. Lost what little respect I have for the King Flopper.
 

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The Catholic Church needs to step in. Cardinal Dolan should start busting skulls for this bullshit.

I think Cupich would be in charge and he's not likely to say a damn thing

The bishops have little control over Catholic universities, which fall outside the purview of their dioceses. You can partly thank Fr. Ted for that.

By and large, the clergy administrators at Catholic universities are worth their weight in dog shit. They care far too much about diversity and not nearly enough about Catholic Theology, morality, and educating young Catholics to, like, actually be young Catholics.

I've been the 3 Jesuit universities. They've all been largely disappointing at being Catholic.
 

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I assume posse grabbing is frowned upon now too, huh? This country is going straight to hell.
 

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The bishops have little control over Catholic universities, which fall outside the purview of their dioceses. You can partly thank Fr. Ted for that.

By and large, the clergy administrators at Catholic universities are worth their weight in dog shit. They care far too much about diversity and not nearly enough about Catholic Theology, morality, and educating young Catholics to, like, actually be young Catholics.

I've been the 3 Jesuit universities. They've all been largely disappointing at being Catholic.

Well the order is in charge, yes, HOWEVER, the bishop is still the ordinary of the diocese and could theoretically tell the order that they are no longer welcome to operate the school in the diocese. This is because the bishop is responsible for his flock, and if he were to determine that the order is harming his see then he has the right to ask the order to leave. However, that's not a prudential course of action.
 

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The bishops have little control over Catholic universities, which fall outside the purview of their dioceses. You can partly thank Fr. Ted for that.

By and large, the clergy administrators at Catholic universities are worth their weight in dog shit. They care far too much about diversity and not nearly enough about Catholic Theology, morality, and educating young Catholics to, like, actually be young Catholics.

I've been the 3 Jesuit universities. They've all been largely disappointing at being Catholic.

Lol this is so hilarious to me considering I got an email yesterday from Fordham's president saying that we are creating a "Chief Diversity Officer" position on campus.
 

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Lol this is so hilarious to me considering I got an email yesterday from Fordham's president saying that we are creating a "Chief Diversity Officer" position on campus.

Benedict option for higher education?
 
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