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A ton of top teams DID recruit him though too. He wasnt completely off the radar. His offer list has: Georgia, Texas, Ohio State, and Penn State on it.

IIRC, he developed a strong connection to fellow Trinity alum Jeff Brohm, and was going to Purdue at the end regardless of who came knocking.

This. I remember the announcers talking about Moore after that first game where he broke Purdue's single game record for all purpose yards as a true freshman. Brohm was the one to convince him to stay in state and be Purdue's highest ranking recruit ever.
 

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Everything you stated may have nothing to do with it. Being from Indiana and kids that Texas recruits don’t matter to ND. We already know this, right?

And clearly a lot of teams didn’t recruit him. Great player but we always act like it’s a missed eval by ND. Which it might’ve been, we don’t know, but it was by everybody else as well.

It may not "matter", but I guarantee you the staff takes note when someone from IN gets offered from any big name, or top P5.

And I'd disagree that being from Indiana doesn't matter to ND. IN is a third tier state (out of 4, or maybe a 4th tier) when it comes to FB recruiting, but still we've taken plenty, and tried to recruit but lost, many from IN. Barajas, Bilal, Moala, Wiliams, Tiassum, Brent, J.Smith, Kiel, Turner, Day, Springman, Martinx2, D. Smith, Eifert, etc (I'm sure I missed one or two, or there were others that transferred).. are the ones BK has won from IN. If you say on average we take 21 over 9 years (15 commits/189 total recruits)... that's about 8% of our roster. IN per 247 put out about 1.4% elite talent. So 8% of our kids come from IN, when only on average 1.4% of the talent comes from IN... That to me, says being from IN matters.

I'd also say that it may not matter who TX recruits, but we go up vs TX plenty. It's about talent obviously, and TX is a top state for talent, but I'm sure we know when TX offers a kid, regardless of what state he is from... but especially when they offer an IN kid.

Back to Moore. If anything, I would bet it has something to do with the early 2017 commit from Lenzy (similar traits to Moore). Lenzy committed in Feb17, flips to OR Jun17, and flips back Dec17. Moore commits to TX Jun17 less than a month after offer, and flips to PU Jan18. In short, I'd guess Moore was not on ND's board because of Lenzy, and then was committed to TX when Lenzy flipped. Lenzy then flipped back (ND), and Moore flipped (PU) shortly after.

I'd bet though there is a bit of a story there (which was what my first post was getting at). I'm just not sure if ND ever knocked on the door pre-Lenzy, or post Lenzy 1st flip.
 

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oh i get it, just surprised we never seemed to be interested in a kid from IN (Louisville border area). and TX came into our state (we normally invade theirs) and pulled a guy (so we know big names knew his name).

called Kentuckiana.
 

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called Kentuckiana.

most don't have phones, so you can't call them anything...
In downtown Indy, we call Kentuckiana northern hillbillies. In downtown Indy, we call ourselves, "billies". I guess we just lacked hills.
 

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One of the links from that thread. Gotta love the ND hate...


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The Traveling The

The Traveling The is a trophy whose origins stem from the Ohio State vs. Purdue game on 11/12/2011, which Purdue won in overtime, 26-23. The joke at the time was that since Purdue had beaten "The" Ohio State, they should take possession of the The until such time as Ohio State (now An Ohio State) was able to earn it back from them.

Over time during the offseason, the concept evolved into a Traveling The that any team could win. After research, The Purdue was found to have been beaten by Iowa the following week, thus the "The" transfered to The Iowa. Any team taking possession of the The is usually referred to as The (team) for the duration of their reign, unless the team is generally disliked (Notre Dame, USC, etc.).

Note also that the The does not recognize division lines; if Michigan had held the The at the time they were defeated by Appalachian State, for example, then the Mountaineers would have taken possession of the Holy Definite Article.
 

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While I love seeing OSU lose I can’t stand the idea of UM winning the Big 10. Gross.

I'm with you 100% here.

I don't like Sparty and I really don't like pOSU. But ALMOST 100% of the time, I find myself rooting for both of them once every season: when they're playing scUM. It's not even like a "I hope they win" but I actually find myself a tiny bit invested in wanting them to succeed, but it's driven by how much I loathe scUM.

The reason I said almost 100% is I believe I could actually bring myself to root for a scUM victory if the outcome directly benefited ND. But it would have to be a major impact, not just the semi-BS SOS argument when we are undefeated and control our own destiny regardless of scUM's performance.
 

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Excerpt from 247.......

First, it’s worth noting just how rare a 29-point loss is for Meyer. The 54-year-old, in stops at Bowling Green, Utah, Florida and Ohio State, had suffered only 10 losses of 15-plus points in his career before Saturday evening.

Great coaches don’t get blown out, and Meyer is no exception.

Only issue is, four of what's now 11 blowout defeats (Clemson, Oklahoma, Iowa, Purdue) have come within Meyer’s last 20 games as a head coach. For perspective, it took Meyer 193 games to lose seven such contests by that large of a margin. That idea leads Bucknuts editor and Ohio State insider Dave Biddle to wonder if Meyer may be slipping.

“That’s such a disturbing trend,” Biddle said. “To get blown out is just so out of character for him. When it happens once it’s stunning. To happen four times in less than three years is just something nobody expected.”
 

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Of course there's the expected friction between Urban and the pOSU brass after the Zack Smith thing, but now there's staff friction within the team, as well.

I guess that's expected after a 29-point loss to Purdue, and when your 5-star defensive recruits have all mysteriously forgotten how to tackle and cover receivers.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Friction” at Ohio State <a href="https://t.co/QmhJD2bLNm">https://t.co/QmhJD2bLNm</a></p>— FootballScoop Staff (@FootballScoop) <a href="https://twitter.com/FootballScoop/status/1054422731456942080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Of course there's the expected friction between Urban and the pOSU brass after the Zack Smith thing, but now there's staff friction within the team, as well.

I guess that's expected after a 29-point loss to Purdue, and when your 5-star defensive recruits have all mysteriously forgotten how to tackle and cover receivers.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Friction” at Ohio State <a href="https://t.co/QmhJD2bLNm">https://t.co/QmhJD2bLNm</a></p>— FootballScoop Staff (@FootballScoop) <a href="https://twitter.com/FootballScoop/status/1054422731456942080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Watching them on Saturday certainly had me wondering whether Luke Fickell was the real difference-making assistant for Urban.
 

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There are three buckeye fans in the office here in the D....not a one showed up to the office today.

working (hiding) from home

priceless

From a poster on Bucknuts

"Program is a mess and without a Head Coach who really knows what to do and changes to be made...or doesn’t have the Balz to make the changes. That’s essentially it. He makes nearly $7m a year and really is a deer in the headlights manager...."

Wasn't that long ago we had a lot of posters still hoping one day Urbie would still coach the Irish. Looks like there are plenty of OSU fans that wouldn't mind showing Urbie the door.
 
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There are three buckeye fans in the office here in the D....not a one showed up to the office today.

working (hiding) from home

Do they realize they are just prolonging the agony?

Have fun with them when they do finally come back...
 

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Living in Cbus and listening to local radio is golden right now. Highly recommend it for anyone in central Ohio. Also, with the OSU players “quitting” and there being tensions between staff and Urbs you think this is going the same way as his last couple Florida teams?
 

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Living in Cbus and listening to local radio is golden right now. Highly recommend it for anyone in central Ohio. Also, with the OSU players “quitting” and there being tensions between staff and Urbs you think this is going the same way as his last couple Florida teams?

I'm kind of hopeful of that. Even though I don't like him, at all, when Urban is focused and on his game, there is only one coach better than him. Anyone they get will not be a true replacement of him. I would love to see him retire again...for good...the man has enough money to just go away.
 

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Living in Cbus and listening to local radio is golden right now. Highly recommend it for anyone in central Ohio. Also, with the OSU players “quitting” and there being tensions between staff and Urbs you think this is going the same way as his last couple Florida teams?

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They also now own the most land on the cfb empirical map (if you continued it from last year)

Yeah, and we lead the 2018 map in counties and population as of Week 8 -- https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo.../college-football-imperialism-map-week-8-2018

The historical map with Purdue is hilarious --
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My favorite is the endowment gambling contest -- https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/9as3ea/what_if_universities_gambled_endowment_on/ Beating Michigan and Stanford = $$$
 
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