2015 Spring Practice Thread

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Our guys got after it earlier this morning in the Loftus Center. 28 days until Spring Ball. <a href="https://t.co/TvKONHyrof">https://t.co/TvKONHyrof</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/568581620225204225">February 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Our guys got after it earlier this morning in the Loftus Center. 28 days until Spring Ball. <a href="https://t.co/TvKONHyrof">https://t.co/TvKONHyrof</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/568581620225204225">February 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Four spring practice questions for the running back position from <a href="https://twitter.com/timomalleyND">@timomalleyND</a> <a href="http://t.co/klgrWHdebF">http://t.co/klgrWHdebF</a> <a href="http://t.co/RnHG9QE0ei">pic.twitter.com/RnHG9QE0ei</a></p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/569125411138899970">February 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
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I couldn't be more excited for spring ball this year. I really want to see the o-line take a huge step forward. I hope the young group of hogs can brew up some good competition! Bryant and Folston pushing each other hard. Will Shumate and Redfield step up with Avery battling for time. How are the linebackers going to gel in year two of BVG's attacking scheme. Can we get a pass rush going!!! KVR and Williams coming back? Golson/Zaire doing battle! Should be worth the watch.

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I am really thinking that our safeties are going to be breaking up some plays with some big hits this year. With the great protection we should have from the corners I think we will see Sebastion, Redfield and Shumate taking some chances on big plays. I feel a breakout year for Shumate coming on.
 
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Spring practice delayed over two weeks to start March 18?
 

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Spring practice delayed over two weeks to start March 18?

I think it has more to do with the staff changes than anything else as they are going to be integrating 4 new faces and a new OC to boot. I wonder if it also has something to do with the construction going on in the stadium? Maybe a few weeks will allow for the spring game to be on campus to help have a much more affective recruiting weeknd as well?
 

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I think it has more to do with the staff changes than anything else as they are going to be integrating 4 new faces and a new OC to boot. I wonder if it also has something to do with the construction going on in the stadium? Maybe a few weeks will allow for the spring game to be on campus to help have a much more affective recruiting weeknd as well?

Alot of things going on for sure...but I don't see a delay as bad...likely marginally better weather, and hugely more cohesion with staff. SOOO much about the routine needs to be taught to new guys, or changes they bring need to be rolled through to existing coaches...everything from meeting schedules, to practice stages, and right down to technique...they all gotta sing from the same sheet...or kids drift on ya. If they ONLY need two weeks, thats yeoman's work right there.
 
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I think it has more to do with the staff changes than anything else as they are going to be integrating 4 new faces and a new OC to boot. I wonder if it also has something to do with the construction going on in the stadium? Maybe a few weeks will allow for the spring game to be on campus to help have a much more affective recruiting weeknd as well?

The former makes absolute sense; I am hoping the latter is true also!

Alot of things going on for sure...but I don't see a delay as bad...likely marginally better weather, and hugely more cohesion with staff. SOOO much about the routine needs to be taught to new guys, or changes they bring need to be rolled through to existing coaches...everything from meeting schedules, to practice stages, and right down to technique...they all gotta sing from the same sheet...or kids drift on ya. If they ONLY need two weeks, thats yeoman's work right there.

Also don't forget, (the conspiricist in me) there is a new flavor reported in winter conditioning. A new assistant, with great strength results. A new attitude, give it all a few extra weeks to work. It may be helpful between Navy and USC this fall!
 
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I recall attending the Blue Gold game during the stadium renovation of the 90s, and I believe it was held at Arlotta Stadium (then Krause Stadium?). Sure it doesn't have the capacity to hold the 20,000+ turnout of most years, but they can get creative. Maybe host two public spring events over the last weekend, each part practice and part scrimmage? I think it has an artificial surface now, though, so I don't know if they could even temporarily convert it to a football field like they did back then.

The problem is, once you move it off campus, will it draw enough of a crowd to make it worthwhile? Part of the spring game's whole allure is the chance to get on campus in the spring for a football event.

I am sure this has already been discussed, but of course having the game at Soldier Field will draw a large Chicago crowd, and is there really a problem with the potential recruits taking a tour bus from campus to Soldier Field, to watch the game?

Of course the students can take the Lake Shore, get rides, etc., and of course special buses can also be arranged.

Why wouldn't this be considered a really special event for recruits? Of course they'll have plenty enough other time on campus.

Sure I am missing something, perhaps in this thread itself - or perhaps it is a recruiting violation to bus the recruits to the game.
 

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Might be cool that it's in Chicago given that were going to have to fight harder than ever for local recruits. Might as well get as much exposure to Chicago as possible? But it also rule out visits to campus for the game so idk.

The only way I see it ruling out visits to campus for the game [if you are talking about recruits] is because it would be a recruiting violation to bus them over to Soldier Field, for the game.
 

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Spring practice delayed over two weeks to start March 18?

The "extension" not delay is to provide the Honor Code Committee time to review the use of proper footnoting of the proposed coaches collegiate homework assignments. They've also awaiting receipt of requested college transcripts for Lyght and Denson.
 

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The "extension" not delay is to provide the Honor Code Committee time to review the use of proper footnoting of the proposed coaches collegiate homework assignments. They've also awaiting receipt of requested college transcripts for Lyght and Denson.

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I am sure this has already been discussed, but of course having the game at Soldier Field will draw a large Chicago crowd, and is there really a problem with the potential recruits taking a tour bus from campus to Soldier Field, to watch the game?

Of course the students can take the Lake Shore, get rides, etc., and of course special buses can also be arranged.

Why wouldn't this be considered a really special event for recruits? Of course they'll have plenty enough other time on campus.

Sure I am missing something, perhaps in this thread itself - or perhaps it is a recruiting violation to bus the recruits to the game.

That would be a recruiting violation, and it's why BK is trying hard to find a way to keep it on campus.
 

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The former makes absolute sense; I am hoping the latter is true also!



Also don't forget, (the conspiricist in me) there is a new flavor reported in winter conditioning. A new assistant, with great strength results. A new attitude, give it all a few extra weeks to work. It may be helpful between Navy and USC this fall!




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The only way I see it ruling out visits to campus for the game [if you are talking about recruits] is because it would be a recruiting violation to bus them over to Soldier Field, for the game.

Unofficial visits are on the prospect's dime. He supplies his own transportation.

IF ND does not have football facilities available to conduct the game, there might be a possibility of a some kind of waiver, that I'm not familiar with, regarding location but I would still expect any travel expenses/arrangements would be out of the prospect's pockets.
 

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Also don't forget, (the conspiricist in me) there is a new flavor reported in winter conditioning. A new assistant, with great strength results. A new attitude, give it all a few extra weeks to work. It may be helpful between Navy and USC this fall!


Every winter and every time there's a new person in conditioning, if only to sweep up, there are reports of new vitality and 4th quarter domination.

When Davie replaced Holtz's S&C Coach Butch Woolfolk with Mickey Marrotti the weight crowd salivated in anticipation. Gone were Woolfolk's Olympic lifting focusing on bursts of energy. Marrotti brought in bulldozer tires and wrecked cars to be pushed and pulled across campus. ND would have stamina now in the 4th Q.

Marrotti lost favor with each of Davie and Willingham's lossses and was guilty by association.

Weis sacked Marrotti and brough in Ruben Mendoza fresh from a 4 year stint at Mississippi. Once again the posts went up, "The fourth quarter will belong to us.

The woeful Woolfolk meanwhile had moved on to Navy where he developed no stars OLs and DLs into underweight beasts that pushed Weis's "thick, quick, and nasty" linemen down the field.

The Mendoza line era ended when Kelly was hired and brought his right hand man, Paul Longo from a reign of success at Cincinnati. "Yeah, we're gonna dominate the second half now. Come November we're going to trample opponents!" Right.

The sacked Marriotti ended up with Urban Meyer at OSU and after only two seasons now sports a National Championship Ring while we have another Spring, a new assistant, not a new S&C coach but once again there is a new flavor, a new attitude.

Yawn.

Almost makes me wish mbeckha was here to explain it all to us in condescending terms thatthose without an PhD in gymnasium wouldn't understand. Almost ...
 
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Every winter and every time there's a new person in conditioning, if only to sweep up, there are reports of new vitality and 4th quarter domination.

When Davie replaced Holtz's S&C Coach Butch Woolfolk with Mickey Marrotti the weight crowd salivated in anticipation. Gone were Woolfolk's Olympic lifting focusing on bursts of energy. Marrotti brought in bulldozer tires and wrecked cars to be pushed and pulled across campus. ND would have stamina now in the 4th Q.

Marrotti lost favor with each of Davie and Willingham's lossses and was guilty by association.

Weis sacked Marrotti and brough in Ruben Mendoza fresh from a 4 year stint at Mississippi. Once again the posts went up, "The fourth quarter will belong to us.

The woeful Woolfolk meanwhile had moved on to Navy where he developed no stars OLs and DLs into underweight beasts that pushed Weis's "thick, quick, and nasty" linemen down the field.

The Mendoza line era ended when Kelly was hired and brought his right hand man, Paul Longo from a reign of success at Cincinnati. "Yeah, we're gonna dominate the second half now. Come November we're going to trample opponents!" Right.

The sacked Marriotti ended up with Urban Meyer at OSU and after only two seasons now sports a National Championship Ring while we have another Spring, a new assistant, not a new S&C coach but once again there is a new flavor, a new attitude.

Yawn.

Almost makes me wish mbeckha was here to explain it all to us in condescending terms thatthose without an PhD in gymnasium wouldn't understand. Almost ...

You are exactly right! After all that is what you get at a place where the "cult of the personality" is so out of control!

However, it looks to me that some pinpoint changes were addressed from the end of the season. It as if someone above Kelly, (any guesses who?), worked with Brian in a best practices review, to pinpoint areas of adjustment for the team :

Offensive frustration; new OC outside of the Kelly tree.
Quarterback de-evolution; new QB coach.
Not enough d-line brollic; new d-line coach.
Regression with most running backs, including inability to protect the quarterback; new running back coach.
Defensive backfield; miracle worker new db coach.
Sag at times on the offensive line, and often with the d-line, which may have added to injuries, and receivers with not enough strength to play off and defeat opposing db's; new emphasis on the strength end, while not modifying the rest of the program by bringing the former Michigan strength coach in, and providing more time for player development. Smart!
 

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4th quarter domination is as much mental as physical. Our guys don't have that "dog" in them.
 

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"The expectations here at Notre Dame can change a little bit as you go along. When I first started, everybody said they just wanted us to be competitive. That first season in 1986 we went 5-6 and lost five games by a total of 14 points. But people said, 'No, when we said competitive, we meant we want you to win.' So the next year we went 8-4 and played in a New Year's Day bowl. But they said, 'No, when we said we want you to win, we meant win them all.' So the next year we did win them all. We went 12-0 and won the national championship. But they said, 'No, you don't understand, we meant we want you to win big.' That's the way it goes at Notre Dame."
 

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Every winter and every time there's a new person in conditioning, if only to sweep up, there are reports of new vitality and 4th quarter domination.

When Davie replaced Holtz's S&C Coach Butch Woolfolk with Mickey Marrotti the weight crowd salivated in anticipation. Gone were Woolfolk's Olympic lifting focusing on bursts of energy. Marrotti brought in bulldozer tires and wrecked cars to be pushed and pulled across campus. ND would have stamina now in the 4th Q.

Marrotti lost favor with each of Davie and Willingham's lossses and was guilty by association.

Weis sacked Marrotti and brough in Ruben Mendoza fresh from a 4 year stint at Mississippi. Once again the posts went up, "The fourth quarter will belong to us.

The woeful Woolfolk meanwhile had moved on to Navy where he developed no stars OLs and DLs into underweight beasts that pushed Weis's "thick, quick, and nasty" linemen down the field.

The Mendoza line era ended when Kelly was hired and brought his right hand man, Paul Longo from a reign of success at Cincinnati. "Yeah, we're gonna dominate the second half now. Come November we're going to trample opponents!" Right.

The sacked Marriotti ended up with Urban Meyer at OSU and after only two seasons now sports a National Championship Ring while we have another Spring, a new assistant, not a new S&C coach but once again there is a new flavor, a new attitude.

Yawn.

Almost makes me wish mbeckha was here to explain it all to us in condescending terms thatthose without an PhD in gymnasium wouldn't understand. Almost ...

I never really had any issue with Longo or his practices. He actually has done a great job in terms of having our guys well conditioned in the 2nd half. For the most part, when ND falls apart in the 2nd half (or in general) it's been due to mental errors, and not just fatigue-enduced ones, just flat out baffling mental errors.

The one issue I do have with Longo is that his methods don't seem to keep our players healthy. It seems like we constantly run into a slew of injuries that derail the season, at least prominently in 2013 and 2014. Of course, I believe mentioned to me that a lot of these weren't conditioning injuries that could be prevented, but just freak ones like broken ankles and fractures. I think the most questionable ones are those suffered from the D-linemen like Day, Jones and Cage. I am intrigued about what Wellman will bring. Conditioning was never an issue at scUM when he was there.
 

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Every winter and every time there's a new person in conditioning, if only to sweep up, there are reports of new vitality and 4th quarter domination.

When Davie replaced Holtz's S&C Coach Butch Woolfolk with Mickey Marrotti the weight crowd salivated in anticipation. Gone were Woolfolk's Olympic lifting focusing on bursts of energy. Marrotti brought in bulldozer tires and wrecked cars to be pushed and pulled across campus. ND would have stamina now in the 4th Q.

Marrotti lost favor with each of Davie and Willingham's lossses and was guilty by association.

Weis sacked Marrotti and brough in Ruben Mendoza fresh from a 4 year stint at Mississippi. Once again the posts went up, "The fourth quarter will belong to us.

The woeful Woolfolk meanwhile had moved on to Navy where he developed no stars OLs and DLs into underweight beasts that pushed Weis's "thick, quick, and nasty" linemen down the field.

The Mendoza line era ended when Kelly was hired and brought his right hand man, Paul Longo from a reign of success at Cincinnati. "Yeah, we're gonna dominate the second half now. Come November we're going to trample opponents!" Right.

The sacked Marriotti ended up with Urban Meyer at OSU and after only two seasons now sports a National Championship Ring while we have another Spring, a new assistant, not a new S&C coach but once again there is a new flavor, a new attitude.

Yawn.

Almost makes me wish mbeckha was here to explain it all to us in condescending terms thatthose without an PhD in gymnasium wouldn't understand. Almost ...

well poopoo...yea history says it hasn't been a deciding factor for ND. But the kids don't know that. Something positive to believe in helps.

All players know weight training and nutrition matter, and they do it like a job. They take pride in it, but would rather just play ball...its a necessary evil. The best environment is where they take to nutrition and weight training as a passion all its own. The guy that inspires some of that is my guy...

Best analogy I know is fly fishing ( i know dumb), if you tie flies because you love to fish, you'll be adequate at both. If you tie flies because you love the process of tying flies, and love to fish, you are going to be a hell of a fly fisherman. I can tell them apart on the stream immediately...one has bulbs, aquarium nets, and magnifying glasses (an aquatic entomologist basically), the other, a box of flys patterned out of a book. Its a different level of involvement.

A number of Trainers take on the "training camp" mentality which is to say this is something you go through with your brothers because you love them, and when you get through you have invested so much you'll refuse to loose. Thats nice and all, but that kind of process needs a discrete beginning and end...like training camp.

not all kids get it, and all thats left is training camp mentality ..but if you can get a good number on board...IMHO, its Disney Magical.
 

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well poopoo...yea history says it hasn't been a deciding factor for ND. But the kids don't know that. Something positive to believe in helps.

All players know weight training and nutrition matter, and they do it like a job. They take pride in it, but would rather just play ball...its a necessary evil. The best environment is where they take to nutrition and weight training as a passion all its own. The guy that inspires some of that is my guy...

Best analogy I know is fly fishing ( i know dumb), if you tie flies because you love to fish, you'll be adequate at both. If you tie flies because you love the process of tying flies, and love to fish, you are going to be a hell of a fly fisherman. I can tell them apart on the stream immediately...one has bulbs, aquarium nets, and magnifying glasses (an aquatic entomologist basically), the other, a box of flys patterned out of a book. Its a different level of involvement.

A number of Trainers take on the "training camp" mentality which is to say this is something you go through with your brothers because you love them, and when you get through you have invested so much you'll refuse to loose. Thats nice and all, but that kind of process needs a discrete beginning and end...like training camp.

not all kids get it, and all thats left is training camp mentality ..but if you can get a good number on board...IMHO, its Disney Magical.

I don't know how big Longo is on health and nutrition, but it seems rather hit and miss. We should be fine as long as Sheldon isn't messing with them Honey Buns.
 

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I don't know how big Longo is on health and nutrition, but it seems rather hit and miss. We should be fine as long as Sheldon isn't messing with them Honey Buns.

thats hilarious...I remember that video...
 

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A quintet of questions regarding Notre Dame's defensive line heading into spring ball 2015.

Below is the sixth of 11 columns previewing head coach Brian Kelly's sixth spring session in South Bend.
The questions are pertinent. The initial answers? Well, they're one man's opinion -- One man using logic and recent history as his guide.
1. WILL JARRON JONES MAKE IT BACK BY AUGUST?
The senior nose tackle's November foot surgery (LisFranc) was expected to keep him out of contact through the spring, and though head coach Brian Kelly's early February update wasn't detailed, it's apparent that the defense's potential anchor isn't ahead of the recovery curve.
"Jarron gets his boot off on Monday," said Kelly on February 4. "Joe Schmidt has had his boot off now for probably about…three or four weeks, so he's starting to move through his rehab pretty good. So it would be Jones and (Joe) Schmidt are the two guys that are the most behind.

"One of the fallbacks here is that we're going to lose him in the weight room for a little bit. And one of the areas that he had to really focus in on was lower body strength. So (strength and conditioning) coach Paul Longo will have to do an extraordinary job of really working around that injury to continue to build his lower body strength.
"He's done a really good job with his hands," Kelly added of Jones. "We gotta get his lower body to meet what he's done with his hands. He can push anybody back We haven't gotten the explosiveness from his lower body yet. So that's going to be the challenge now in the offseason."
Kelly noted on February 4 that Jones was "out for the spring." That's not unexpected, but his subsequent rehab timetable will be pertinent. If Jones is still working his way back into shape and trying to reach full strength through September rather than early August, it would be to the detriment of the Irish up front.
2. WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE ISAAC ROCHELL?
Right where he wants to be -- at nose tackle.
"I kind of like the middle," said Rochell following his standout interior efforts vs. LSU in the Music City Bowl. "Im not going to say there's less responsibility. You're in there, you can bang. A lot of it is you can rely on your natural ability.
"I enjoyed it. It was a super fun game, so it was cool. My weight was a lot lower than it should have been (for the position) but I knew that if I played fast and stayed low, it would be fine."
The latter is notable. Rochell, with but a month of dedicated work on the interior, was able to offer an immediate critique of his own performance and technique -- and he was the game's defensive MVP.
He's already one of the team's top 10 returning players -- top five status is not out of reach for his true junior season, whether he plays inside, at defensive end, or (likely) both.
3. ARE TRUMBETTI AND OKWARA READY FOR FULL-TIME ROLES?
Last week's breakdown of Notre Dame's top scrimmage players (found here) revealed a statistical truth I hadn't considered: junior Romeo Okwara was an underrated playmaker up front last season, making a combined 19 tackles for no gain, minimal gain (1 or 2 yards) or tackles for lost yardage.
(My perception from film reviews, re-reading game notes, and from selective memory was that freshman Andrew Trumbetti was more impactful than Okwara in their shared role.)
But the pertinent question isn't who was better or more important last year, but rather if either is ready for a prime time role this fall? At minimum, they'll serve as a promising tandem, but it's best for Notre Dame if one takes a major leap forward and thus claims the lion's share of crucial snaps -- the other would then be a reliable, trusted backup.
Sophomore Grant Blankenship got his feet wet last fall as a true freshman. Should Rochell operate often inside (he will this spring), Blankenship will get an extended look as an oft-used, necessary No. 2 on the edge.
4. WHO'S GOING TO BREAK THROUGH?
Two of my five projected breakout sophomores listed in a January column were Jhonny Williams and Jonathan Bonner. Both Tim Prister and Pete Sampson named Jay Hayes. If either or all of us are correct, the Irish defense could approach the level of championship contender (assuming decent health to its starters), because a stout, versatile defensive front is paramount to that end.
Bonner appears ready to assume the undervalued, overlooked role as Sheldon Day's backup at the three-technique tackle (Day hasn't finished a season without injury since 2012), while Williams should contend for a rush end role vs. classmate Kolin Hill. Will Hayes work at defensive end instead of tackle? It's likely if Rochell moves inside on more than a part-time basis, and it might be to the youngster's advantage as Haye's has a game-ready frame for the strong side defensive end role.
It's far too early to count out others, but the quartet named here seem to represent the leaders in the pre-spring clubhouse.
5. WHO'S GOING TO LEND A HAND?
The necessity of extended depth through a team's defensive interior cannot be overstated. A heavy game day rotation for a top tier college defense can intermix future NFL stars, contributing veterans on their last football legs, and up-and-coming youngsters alike. It's not a dynamic often seen at other positions such as tight end, offensive line, defensive back, etc.
That reality allows nose tackle candidates Daniel Cage, Jacob Matuska, Pete Mokwuah, and early enrollee Jerry Tillery a chance for a game day role, major (perhaps Cage) or minor. It affords Tillery's fellow spring semester enrollee Micah Dew-Treadway a chance to turn heads even if a redshirt is assumed and preferred.
It's a position that allows "third stringers" varsity time whereas a third-string cornerback or safety or inside linebacker may never see the other side of a scout team practice field. It's a position that leaves open the door for a raw but ultra-athletic prospect such as Tillery to carve a first-year niche in support of the veterans.
Because attrition is likely, one player listed in this grouping will be asked to contribute meaningful scrimmage snaps by the conclusion of 2015. The initial steps toward that end start this spring.

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