2015 Fall 85-Man Roster

[Domina Nostra]

Here is where I think the 2015 roster stands as of now, may need some corrections:

QB
1) Malik Zaire, Jr. '17
2) Deshone Kizer, So. '18
3) Brandon Wimbush

RB (Likely 4 on roster)
4) C.J. Prosise, Sr. '15
5) Tarean Folston, Jr. '16
6) Greg Bryant, Jr. '17
7) Josh Adams
8) Dexter Williams

WR-slot ( + 1 recruit)
9) Amir Carlisle
10) Torii Hunter, Jr. '17
11) CJ Sanders

WR-boundary
12) Chris Brown, Sr. '15
13) Will Fuller, Jr. '16
14) Corey Robinson, Jr. '16
15) Justin Brent, So. ‘17
16) Corey Holmes, So. '18
17) Jalen Guyton
18) Miles Boykin
19) Equanimeous St. Brown

TE
20) Mike Heuerman, Jr. '17
21) Durham Smythe, Jr. '17
22) Tyler Luatua, So. '17
23) Nic Weishar, So. '18
24) Aliz’e Jones

OT
25) Ronnie Stanley, Sr. '16
26) Mike McGlinchey, Jr. '17
27) Hunter Biven, Jr. '17
28) Alex Bars, So. '18

OT/OG
29) Steven Elmer, Jr. '16
30) Quentin Nelson, So. '18
31) Mark Harrell, Sr. '16
32) Colin McGovern, Jr. '17
33) Jimmy Byrne, So. '18

OG/C
34) Nick Martin, RSS
35) John Montelus, Jr. '17
36) Sam Mustipher, So. '18
37) Tristen Hoge
38) Trevor Ruhland

DT
39) Sheldon Day, Sr. '15
40) Jarron Jones, Sr. '16
41) Jacob Matuska, Jr. '17
42) Daniel Cage, So. '17
43) Jonathan Bonner, So. '17
44) Peter Mokwuah, So. '18
45) Jerry Tillery
46) Brandon Tiassum
47) Elijah Taylor

SDE
48) Isaac Rochell, Fr. '16
49) Jay Hayes, So. ‘17
50) Micah Dew-Treadway

WDE
51) Romeo Okwara, Sr. '15
52) Grant Blankenship, So. '17
53) Andrew Trumbetti, So. '17
54) Dough Randolph, Jr. '17
55) Michael Deeb, Jr. '17
56) Jhonnie Williams, So. ?

RUSH
57) Kolin Hill, So. '17

SAM/WILL
58) Jaylon Smith, Jr. '16
59) James Onwualu, Jr. '16
60) Greer Martini, So. '17
61) Josh Barajas
62) Asmar Bilal

WILL/MIKE
63) Jarrett Grace, RSS
64) Nyles Morgan, So. '17
65) Tevon Coney

MIKE
66) Joe Schmidt, RSS

CB
67) KeiVarae Russell, Sr. '15
68) Cole Luke, Jr. '16
69) Nick Watkins, So. ?
70) Nick Coleman
71) Shaun Crawford

DB
72) Matthias Farley, RSS
73) Devin Butler, Jr. '16
74) Ashton White
75) Nicco Fertitta

SS
76) Avery Sebastian
77) Elijah Shumate, Sr. '15
78) Dru Tranquil, So. '17
79) John Turner, Sr. '16

FS
80) Max Redfield, Jr. '16
81) Mykelti Williams

ST
82) Scott Daly, Jr. '16
83) Tyler Newsome
84) K- Justin Yoon

Possibilities
Chase Hounshel
Ishaq Williams
Nicky Barratti

 

[Bogtrotter07]

In addition, I could see someone off of the offensive line (who was burried) and someone listed as a linebacker/defensive line.

Also, has anyone else heard of someone with grade issues?

 

[Irish2155]

It'll work itself out. I'd rather play with too many then figure it out opposed to not enough, again.

 

[connor_in]

Ishaq?

 

[ulukinatme]

Ishaq?

All bets say that Ishaq will not be back for next season. Roster issues aside, he seems to have a tough road when it comes to the academic side of things.

 

[NDPhilly]

Don't really have many upperclassmen that are buried who could be possible transfer candidates. Maybe Heuerman, Turner, Deeb, and Matuska

 

[Old Man Mike]

Hounshell is not listed above, and Byrne is listed twice


As to no-information-at-all speculation, the kind of guy who should transfer if he ever wants to play is probably Mark Harrell. Coach Harry seems to think that he is a decent player, but the current and future flow is stacked against him.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Hounshell is not listed above, and Byrne is listed twice


As to no-information-at-all speculation, the kind of guy who should transfer if he ever wants to play is probably Mark Harrell. Coach Harry seems to think that he is a decent player, but the current and future flow is stacked against him.

Agreed, and thanks for the catch on Byrne. Will fix.

If you were talking about transfers that could make sense for all involved:

- Harrell to Duke
- Randolph to UVA
- Deeb to Miami or S. Florida.
- Huemerman to Miami, OH.

 

[Irish YJ]

From NBC Sports

For the first time in over a decade, Notre Dame has a roster crunch.

As Notre Dame’s fifth-year candidates submit their applications to the university, Brian Kelly plans on moving forward and using every minute he has to figure out his roster.

“You have to be at 85 when you kick off,” Kelly said of his maximum-capacity roster. “We’ll be at 85 when we kick off.”

That’s a far cry from the team’s of recent memory, when coaching transitions, recruiting washouts and roster holes left many Notre Dame football teams involuntarily working with far less than a full allotment of 85 scholarship players. (By rough count, Notre Dame’s 2007 squad—where Tyrone Willingham’s recruiting woes had officially caught up to Charlie Weis—had just 74 scholarship players.)

But after seasons of coming close, it appears that the Irish will have a full 85-man roster come the Texas game. And how they get there remains to be seen.

Kelly confirmed that all seven fifth-year players—Nick Martin, Joe Schmidt, Amir Carlisle, Chase Hounshell, Jarrett Grace, Everett Golson and Matthias Farley—have submitted their paperwork to return. Who ends up back with the Irish in 2015? We’re not quite there yet.

“They’ve all turned them in. They were due last Friday and they were all turned in. We should have an answer on whether they’ve been granted a fifth year,” Kelly said.

There are givens: Martin, Schmidt, Farley and Carlisle all are in the staff’s plans for 2015. It appears that Grace is as well, a miraculous return from injury all but complete. Add to that graduate transfer Avery Sebastian, the Cal safety has signed a letter-of-intent and will play out his eligibility at Notre Dame.

Golson, the team’s most important fifth-year player, looks to be returning as well, though Kelly acknowledged that he isn’t 100 percent certain what the quarterback will be doing until he’s enrolled in summer school. Even Hounshell, working as a reserve tight end after spending four seasons as a defensive lineman, is doing his best to earn a spot as a blocker.

As Kelly discussed the situation, it didn’t sound like a man facing difficult decisions. And after poking around with some contacts in the program, it’s certainly on the radar, though hardly the concern that it is amongst the hard-core fanbase.

That’s because Notre Dame’s head coach is well in control of his roster. And he has been doing his job long enough to understand that every year, unplanned attrition hits.

Tim O’Malley of Irish Illustrated did the digging, but in every season since 1980, the Irish have had a football player transfer out of the program. (A media guide change made any additional searching too difficult to continue.) So while we’re not sure who it could be, 35-plus years of data points to Kelly and the Irish being just fine.

Speculating on transfers isn’t easy. Nor is it habit to put into print baseless speculation. But potential transfers could include younger players buried on the depth chart. Or veterans in a similar situation. It’s not hard to see who those players are, and it’s likely they’re the ones doing their due diligence this spring, ready to make a move when classes end.

We already know that KeiVarae Russell is set to return this June. Ishaq Williams‘ return isn’t as clear, though Kelly said he’ll have a conversation with Williams after spring practice ends as he looks for clarity inside the program and Williams needs to be readmitted to the university. In all likelihood, Williams is on the bubble.

One thing may be changing inside Notre Dame’s program. After keeping certain malcontents on the roster and allowing them to stay through graduation, there’s reason to suspect that the tightened numbers have Kelly and his staff reconsidering that policy.

While we’ve seen the ugly side of oversigning—just look at what’s going on at Ohio State as Urban Meyer tries to shed scholarships before next season and what’s gone on in the SEC the past decade. But as Kelly gets his roster capable of competing with the elite in college football, he takes an NFL approach to the process.

“It’s a salary cap. You’ve got to get to your salary cap,” Kelly said. “We’ll get to 85.”

 

[johnnycando]

Grey shirt them.

 

[ulukinatme]

Grey shirt them.

C'mon, johnny, lets show some pride here and not do what the others schools are doing.

It should be called "gold shirt."

 

[Crazy Balki]

Agreed, and thanks for the catch on Byrne. Will fix.

If you were talking about transfers that could make sense for all involved:

- Harrell to Duke
- Randolph to UVA
- Deeb to Miami or S. Florida.
- Huemerman to Miami, OH.

I don't think Oxford is around any large bodies of water.

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[irishfan]

Read on ISD that they were cross-training Farley at both Safety spots in case of an injury. I know many were confident he'd 100% be back for a 5th year (I was not so confident), but this seems to confirm it.

Also, was wodnering if anyone knew if Sabastian's scholarshup was guaranteed in the event of an injury or him being unable to crack the 2-deep?

 

[Domina Nostra]

Read on ISD that they were cross-training Farley at both Safety spots in case of an injury. I know many were confident he'd 100% be back for a 5th year (I was not so confident), but this seems to confirm it.

Also, was wodnering if anyone knew if Sabastian's scholarshup was guaranteed in the event of an injury or him being unable to crack the 2-deep?

I highly doubt that AS would transfer based on a conditional scholarship.

I think they are expecting an injury or transfer. If it doesn't happen, they will likely have to choose between a less than 100% Schmidt and Carlisle. I think Carlisle, as crappy as it would be, would have to be the last cut.

Procise, Hunter, and Sanders are adequate.

 

[PANDFAN]

Carlisle and schmidt's parents seem to be well enough off and it is not like IF either was asked to pay it would be putting them out on the streets...however i doubt it would even come down to this...not starting a debate on whether they should or shouldn't have to pay...just saying neither family is coming from poverty

 

[irishfan]

Carlisle and schmidt's parents seem to be well enough off and it is not like IF either was asked to pay it would be putting them out on the streets...however i doubt it would even come down to this...not starting a debate on whether they should or shouldn't have to pay...just saying neither family is coming from poverty

I'm not sure if you're allowed to go from 4-year scholarship to paying for the 5th year and playing. I think it's to prevent schools from offering financial aid for football grad students and cheating the 85-man limit.

 

[connor_in]

Well, pOSU & FUM (did I do that right?) are at the pinnacle of College Football right now, so we should probably just find our weakest scholarship players and medical hardship them, thus killing their careers and opening up roster space.

 

[IrishLax]

Coming into the spring I would've said Grace or Schmidt wouldn't be back. I think it's completely reasonable that Schmidt would come off scholarship as a worst-case scenario type of thing.

Hounshell not getting a 5th year is also just very reasonable.

And then you have Baratti, who should already be on medical with his chronic shoulder issues, but they're giving him one more go.

That's 3 right there, even without the transfer or two that happens literally every single year. Literally. As far back as media guides track, there is at least one transfer.

And there are plenty of candidates this year, plus all the guys listed above. I'm not really sure why anyone is concerned with numbers.

 

[irishfan]

Coming into the spring I would've said Grace or Schmidt wouldn't be back. I think it's completely reasonable that Schmidt would come off scholarship as a worst-case scenario type of thing.

Hounshell not getting a 5th year is also just very reasonable.

And then you have Baratti, who should already be on medical with his chronic shoulder issues, but they're giving him one more go.

That's 3 right there, even without the transfer or two that happens literally every single year. Literally. As far back as media guides track, there is at least one transfer.

And there are plenty of candidates this year, plus all the guys listed above. I'm not really sure why anyone is concerned with numbers.

It will probably work itself out like it always does. But this is the first time in recent memory we've been at above 85 after the Spring, so I think it's still worth talking about. We've crapped on SEC teams in the past who were above 85 at this time. Apart from MH, there hasn't been anyone rumored to be looking to leave....and those rumors seem to be based on a lack of PT, not due to any sort of unhappiness by him. For all we know, he might be perfectly content being Deion Walker until he graduates. The only position where it seems likely is someone buried at OL, but those guys tend to have low transfer rates. Deeb/Randolph have been thrown out there but who knows? Usually the guys who end up transferring are ones you can sense ahead of time with their recruitment and how their freshman years play out...neither one of them have given off the prima donna vibe.

Baratti seems likely to be done. And Hounshell won't contribute so BK probably already has the number 88 down to 86 scholarships in his head as a worst-case scenario without transfers. It would just be odd (even if it's allowed) to tell Schmidt to pay his own way in 2015 after he's already been on scholarship the last two years (and NBC/ND produced the feel good videos for when he received his scholarship) to accomodate a 5th year transfer who wont start for us barring an injury. He was pretty much a de facto captain for us last season and will be again....sends a bad message not to reward the guys who buy-in 100% to BK and ND.

For the record, I'm fully in favor of the light oversigning and taking 5th year transfers...this was just a flukishly large 5th year class buoyed by Stanley/Day returning and KVR unable to turn Pro. I'm not going to be pleased if the end result is telling Schmidt he is no longer on scholarship but can remain on the team. It might make sense from a numbers standpoint, but I think it will play poorly in the locker room.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Coming into the spring I would've said Grace or Schmidt wouldn't be back. I think it's completely reasonable that Schmidt would come off scholarship as a worst-case scenario type of thing.

Hounshell not getting a 5th year is also just very reasonable.

And then you have Baratti, who should already be on medical with his chronic shoulder issues, but they're giving him one more go.

That's 3 right there, even without the transfer or two that happens literally every single year. Literally. As far back as media guides track, there is at least one transfer.

And there are plenty of candidates this year, plus all the guys listed above. I'm not really sure why anyone is concerned with numbers.

I am. Because this is new territory for us. When was the last time we were over scholarship numbers?

 

[Henges24]

Carlisle and schmidt's parents seem to be well enough off and it is not like IF either was asked to pay it would be putting them out on the streets...however i doubt it would even come down to this...not starting a debate on whether they should or shouldn't have to pay...just saying neither family is coming from poverty

So let's tell Torii Hunter and David Robinson to just pay their kids' own way. Makes more sense.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I'm not going to be pleased if the end result is telling Schmidt he is no longer on scholarship but can remain on the team.

Here's a snippet from Keith Arnold's analysis of the Spring Game:

* When I see people whose opinion on Notre Dame football start to discuss Joe Schmidt‘s place in this defense, I start to wonder if they’ve been eating paint chips.

Schmidt is a starter on this defense. Period. Whether that’s at Will or Mike, that’s still up for debate.

Suffice it to say, I'm still firm in my conviction that Schmidt's return as a scholarship player is written in stone.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Here's a snippet from Keith Arnold's analysis of the Spring Game:



Suffice it to say, I'm still firm in my conviction that Schmidt's return as a scholarship player is written in stone.

Agree. It would be criminal not to bring him back (and pretty cruel to make him pay after earning a scholarship).

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Also want to state that if Ishaq is able to re-enroll that he and his family said they would pay for him to walk on if no scholarships were available.


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[kmoose]

I'm not sure if you're allowed to go from 4-year scholarship to paying for the 5th year and playing. I think it's to prevent schools from offering financial aid for football grad students and cheating the 85-man limit.

The rule is that you get 5 years to complete 4 seasons of eligibility. I don't think that scholarship/non scholarship is even a thought in that formula.

 

[stlnd01]

This OFD piece suggests Heuerman is basically a goner.
Projected Notre Dame 2015 Depth Chart & Scholarship Number Situation - One Foot Down

If that's the case (and I'm not clear why it would be), along with Baratti and Hounshell, then we're just fine. If one of them sticks and no one unexpected transfers/flunks/"Mahone"s out, wouldn't be surprised if Carlisle's the 5Y who gets squeezed, especially after the spring Prosise had (just hope that happens with enough time for Amir to land somewhere else).
But I also wouldn't be surprised if we kick off the Texas game with 78 scholarship players. I, though, would be very surprised if we ask Schmidt to pay his way.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Because Heuerman has failed to make his presence known on the depth chart. I wonder if he'd be a medical hardship or a transfer.

 

[IrishLion]

I bet we go into the Texas game with 84 scholarship players.

If we are at 85, it's because a walk-on was awarded a scholarship.

You all are underestimating Notre Dame Attrition.

 

[woolybug25]

This OFD piece suggests Heuerman is basically a goner.
Projected Notre Dame 2015 Depth Chart & Scholarship Number Situation - One Foot Down

If that's the case (and I'm not clear why it would be), along with Baratti and Hounshell, then we're just fine. If one of them sticks and no one unexpected transfers/flunks/"Mahone"s out, wouldn't be surprised if Carlisle's the 5Y who gets squeezed, especially after the spring Prosise had (just hope that happens with enough time for Amir to land somewhere else).
But I also wouldn't be surprised if we kick off the Texas game with 78 scholarship players. I, though, would be very surprised if we ask Schmidt to pay his way.

They are not going to cut a starter over an oft injured, non starter in Grace.

 

[NDdomer2]

IF Amir were to be the odd man out, is his Dad still at Purdue? I could see that being a landing spot.