2013 Fall Camp Thread

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Eric Hanson specifically mentioned Rochell as a pleasant "spring surprise" during today's chat. He said many expected him to redshirt, but that he may force his way into the 2-deep by August if he keeps turning heads in practice.
I don't know how Isaac could be a surprise. Kid was a stud in high school and works his butt off.
 

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How much does Tuitt weigh right now?

Either way, I'm not worried either. If the staff wants him closer to 300, then he will be closer to 300
 

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I don't know how Isaac could be a surprise. Kid was a stud in high school and works his butt off.

I agree. For whatever reason, he didn't get the post-season awards consideration other guys got, but you could see on film that he was a perfect fit for us.
 

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I also saw Nix briefly in that video. He is quite nimble for 357 lbs.
 

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the short shorts ND football players are wearing reminds me of Jim Zorn at the Seahawks in the 80's lol
 

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Ishaq being pushed back like that in the only two appearances is not encouraging. I don't worry about Tuitt, I have confidence he will pull it together in the next month plus, as previously stated, it was one rep vs our top lineman.
 

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I haven't rewatched the video yet, but TP summarized yesterday's practice by saying that GA III was running low and hard, while Tommy was "on the money." What say you, critics?

I'll say that Hendrix didn't look good imo. The two throws they showed from him weren't great. One looked to be out of bounds, didn't really give the receiver a great chance to make a play. The second was very high, which caused Chris Brown to go way up and get it when it probably wasn't necessary. Of course, these are just short practice clips, but I wasn't big on his highlights. Zaire looked good imo.
 

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I think it was Hercules both times. Could just be a sign of his improvement.

yep it was Herc. It might have been the same rep shown twice though. Nothing to be ashamed about though considering his opponent and holding the point of attack will never be Ishaq's strongsuit
 
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I haven't rewatched the video yet, but TP summarized yesterday's practice by saying that GA III was running low and hard, while Tommy was "on the money." What say you, critics?

I'll say that Hendrix didn't look good imo. The two throws they showed from him weren't great. One looked to be out of bounds, didn't really give the receiver a great chance to make a play. The second was very high, which caused Chris Brown to go way up and get it when it probably wasn't necessary. Of course, these are just short practice clips, but I wasn't big on his highlights. Zaire looked good imo.

Fwiw, judging by that summary it sounded like TP only saw the 3 minute video we saw, nothing more. So any good/bad comments I wouldn't take too far unless that's what you saw in the highlight vid.
 
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yep it was Herc. It might have been the same rep shown twice though. Nothing to be ashamed about though considering his opponent and holding the point of attack will never be Ishaq's strongsuit

Not only was it Herc, it was the type of drill. Some times the circumstances of a drill are contrived such that it shows one body type at advantage over another, and is not directly translatable to game situation. In a game I think Ishaq would be free to use his speed instead of rely on just brute strength.

Also, I think the question with these reps is, are we going to be seeing more of Ishaq as a DE?
 

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Not only was it Herc, it was the type of drill. Some times the circumstances of a drill are contrived such that it shows one body type at advantage over another, and is not directly translatable to game situation. In a game I think Ishaq would be free to use his speed instead of rely on just brute strength.

Also, I think the question with these reps is, are we going to be seeing more of Ishaq as a DE?

Also BK mentioned in both of his speeches to the team in the video they are looking for toughness. That was clearly a strength and leverage drill Herc has the advantage in. It's one thing for Ishaq to be beat like he was by Herc, but also he wasn't backing down. Even if it isn't a strong suit of his, it's something that needs work, while we all know he is quick in space.
 

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For those that have rivals Sampson in doing what they are calling Rewind, where he is putting commentary over the practice videos and its a really cool feature. They slow some of it down and replay it so you can see and listen to some details that you may normally miss. Also, I know its not popular opinion to worry about Tuitt but Sampson definitely is and even said in his commentary that he is going to ask Tuitt next time he interviews him about his weight and health.
 

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I'm terrified about Tuitt, personally. But I just don't see the point in panicking over his weight/shape. Will just have to wait and see what happens.

I think the hernia really set him back a LOT physically with how much rest he had to have. It looks like he's about ~3 months away from game shape but we've only got a couple weeks... soooo..... something will have to give.
 
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I have my doubts that the staff would let a slow out-of-shape Tuitt be shown. It was one rep. It could have been at the end of the day and he was totally winded. We don't know.

The only thing worse than making predictions in this sport is over-analyzing released practice footage.
 

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I have my doubts that the staff would let a slow out-of-shape Tuitt be shown. It was one rep. It could have been at the end of the day and he was totally winded. We don't know.

The only thing worse than making predictions in this sport is over-analyzing released practice footage.

I'm not basing this on practice film... I actually don't even think I watched what you're referring to. I'm basing it off of Mike Frank's comments plus the fact that 322 is just freaking ginormous and way over his playing weight last year. You couple those comments with what he looks like walking around and in pictures and it's hard to come to the conclusion he's in game shape. From the people who have actually seen Tuitt in person I haven't heard a single one say they think he looks good. That's a bit disconcerting.
 

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Many were projecting him right into Reggie White status. He is obviously had a set back. He will be back in the old Tuitt form soon enough. The slower start could be a leverage point that brings him back for his sr year.
 

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On a side note ... what the **** are they doing in that picture? What game is that?
 

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Luckily we have temple week one and not michigan, with that said, either team will have trouble stopping tuitt in shape or out.
 

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Leave the panic till tomorrow. Media has access the entire time. We'll have a better idea by then instead of looking at a couple photos and 1 rep
 
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