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I don't know this to be fact so if someone does I'm willing to listen butiIt looks to me like there are too many checks, that if the offense shows X this we do Y, if the offense shows A then we do B, etc. I think there are so many of those and nobody in the secondary is at a Joe Schmidt level of understanding that this is what we get. So for me its not necessarily what they are doing is too complex its that there is too much inventory that needs to be recalled at a moments notice.

And the funny thing about that is the blitz is usually telegraphed to such a ridiculous extent and we really check out of it even when it becomes obvious the offense checked out of their play.
 

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That's honestly shit that high school defenses can figure out though.

Yes, to a certain extent. I guess my belief is the amount of inventory that they are supposed to carry into a gameday is too much and much more than they are comfortable with. Otherwise, we have some of the dumbest secondary players that ND has seen in a long time. Personally, I don't believe that to be true. I think you can see that a lot of positions are bogged down by the scheme, it just so happens that the secondary is the one we notice the most as it results in the biggest plays.
 

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And the funny thing about that is the blitz is usually telegraphed to such a ridiculous extent and we really check out of it even when it becomes obvious the offense checked out of their play.

I think that BVG takes overthinking to another level. I'm also convinced that some of what he does is definitely intentional. I don't think he's stupid and actually believes Schmidt is going to get home on these blitzes, because he almost never does. You'd have to be insane to continue to do it and expect it to change, again, as it never works. So, I believe there is some sort of setup that he's looking and waiting for. He feels if I do this, and I do this, then I'll get this setup where we can take advantage. Now, that way of thinking may very well work in the NFL and to a true schematic guy, it probably makes all the sense in the world. The problem is, it looks like its too much for these kids and it isn't working to the extent it should.
 

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I don't blame Lyght for the fact that Redfield is completely incapable of performing the basic duties of a safety, because Farley has shown he can do it. And Shumate put together a good season at SS. It's clearly a Redfield problem.

I sort of blame him for coverage problems at CB, but the type of off-man coverage that BVG asks them to run is really hard... and they weren't as bad at coverage as people think. KVR is just clearly more of a zone coverage kind of guy.
 

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I don't know this to be fact so if someone does I'm willing to listen butiIt looks to me like there are too many checks, that if the offense shows X this we do Y, if the offense shows A then we do B, etc. I think there are so many of those and nobody in the secondary is at a Joe Schmidt level of understanding that this is what we get. So for me its not necessarily what they are doing is too complex its that there is too much inventory that needs to be recalled at a moments notice.

That's honestly shit that high school defenses can figure out though.

I agree with Beau. Most defenses have adjustments they make based on the offensive formation and motion. Just spit ballin' here, but I think problem isn't what the guy is supposed to do given what the offense shows, but what the other guy is supposed to do if that makes sense. Kind of a domino thing if you will.
 

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That's honestly shit that high school defenses can figure out though.

HS defenses obviously aren't as complex. They are usually dealing with 1-3 different offensive alignment scenarios whereas college defenses, especially BVG's, are dealing with many more.

I agree with Beau. Most defenses have adjustments they make based on the offensive formation and motion. Just spit ballin' here, but I think problem isn't what the guy is supposed to do given what the offense shows, but what the other guy is supposed to do if that makes sense. Kind of a domino thing if you will.

I think you're right and communicating on the backend is the most difficult type of communication that happens on a football field.
 

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as a ny football giants and nd fan im not sure I can take much more of this type of defense.
have NEVER ever seen so many blown coverages, blown leads in one football season for my 2 favorite teams.

its maddening!
 

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as a ny football giants and nd fan im not sure I can take much more of this type of defense.
have NEVER ever seen so many blown coverages, blown leads in one football season for my 2 favorite teams.

its maddening!

Dump the Giants......... perennial losers. :wink:
 

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I don't blame Lyght for the fact that Redfield is completely incapable of performing the basic duties of a safety, because Farley has shown he can do it. And Shumate put together a good season at SS. It's clearly a Redfield problem.

I sort of blame him for coverage problems at CB, but the type of off-man coverage that BVG asks them to run is really hard... and they weren't as bad at coverage as people think. KVR is just clearly more of a zone coverage kind of guy.

Do you think if Redfield was better at the position then BVG would move to more of a press coverage scheme?
 

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as a ny football giants and nd fan im not sure I can take much more of this type of defense.
have NEVER ever seen so many blown coverages, blown leads in one football season for my 2 favorite teams.

its maddening!

I thought I was the only one!!! If I see one more open receiver on a 3rd and 15 I'm going to lose my mind. I was friggin shellshocked this year by bad defense.
 
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If I see one more defensive lineman in coverage, particularly when no one is really healthy, I will probably explode.

Well maybe that tends a bit toward hyperbole.


But I won't be happy!
 

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Do you think if Redfield was better at the position then BVG would move to more of a press coverage scheme?

I think if Redfield were better at the position he wouldn't be around for his senior year.
 

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I thought I was the only one!!! If I see one more open receiver on a 3rd and 15 I'm going to lose my mind. I was friggin shellshocked this year by bad defense.

Wait..so you are allowed to cover someone on 3rd and 15?!
 

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Sanford giving us a shoutout:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From N.D. To the I.E. ☘—>☀️</p>— Coach Mike Sanford (@CoachSanfordND) <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachSanfordND/status/687670313983864832">January 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Sanford giving us a shoutout:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From N.D. To the I.E. ☘—>☀️</p>— Coach Mike Sanford (@CoachSanfordND) <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachSanfordND/status/687670313983864832">January 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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In all seriousness where is I.E.?
 
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The amount of misinformation that comes out this time from the different sites is crazy. I'm sure part of it is the kids changing their minds and not having a lot of time to make decisions on visits and what not.
 

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I know he's scheduled to see Alloway and maybe he sees Javon as well but mainly Alloway.
 

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Mike Sanford describes the 4 plays Andrew Luck wants early in a game

Mike Sanford describes the 4 plays Andrew Luck wants early in a game

What should an offensive coordinator script for a quarterback early on a game? Andrew Luck had four keys, and one of them was to get hit.

Notre Dame offensive coordinator / quarterbacks coach Mike Sanford spoke to a room of coaches at last week’s AFCA Convention in San Antonio on a number of topics. Asked about getting a quarterback in a flow and helping his confidence, Sanford pointed to 2011, when Luck was a senior and Sanford was on the Stanford staff.

“Andrew Luck, an unbelievable talent, in his fourth year, he truly could do anything you put up there,” Sanford said. “Coach Shaw would always ask Andrew, ‘What do you want to put on the opener for this game?’ He’d say, ‘I want to get a completion play, I want a get-hit play' — he wants to get hit in the first three plays — and he wants a get-out-of-the-pocket play, and one more rhythm throw.”

Protecting your quarterback is one of the biggest keys in football, but Luck needed to take a hit. It helped that Luck had a large frame and could physically take it.

“Especially in a big game, he wanted to feel that,” Sanford said “We’re all built the same way. We need our quarterback to feel the game. He’s a football player. He’s the toughest player on the team.”

The biggest emphasis from Sanford in the hour-long session was about organization. Specifically, how that organization reflects on to the players, such as the meeting room and the whiteboard.

“When your kids come into your room, what is your meeting room setting like?” Sanford said. “What does it look like? Is it an environment with papers all over the place? Is there stuff on the board that’s insignificant to that week or day? I remember that as a player, going into a classroom that’s clean and has clarity in the feel of the room. It’s worth so much more. …

“I try to get there 25 minutes before every meeting and make sure my room is in tip-top condition. I know it affects (Notre Dame QB) Malik Zaire. When it’s clean, he functions at a much higher level. What does your meeting room setting look like?”

The same goes for the whiteboard. Sanford remembered how detailed Hue Jackson’s board was with the Ravens. Don’t load it up with filler, but make sure it’s organized. Now at Notre Dame, Sanford is moving up the career ladder, but there are always lessons to learn.

“When I was a quality control guy for Jim Harbaugh, his brother was the coach of the Baltimore Ravens. I had a chance to go there and learn football," Sanford said. "I locked myself in a room, and John Harbaugh was kind enough to give me access to various coaches to pick people’s brains.

“The one thing that really stuck with me from the league, I didn’t even talk to Hue Jackson, but I watched film in his room, and his board was immaculate. It had so many details, it had practice notes, projects for receivers, the meetings set up. It dawned on me as a young coach. I thought about how important it is to have order and for those guys to know what the agenda is going to be.”
 

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The amount of connections that Sanford has to big-time coaches (especially in the NFL) is crazy.
 

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Is it reasonable to view Sanford as the next ND coach in waiting? Or will he be gone before Kelly gives up the reigns?
 

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That story is the type of story we'll be hearing years down the road like when the network was going a wall over Dabo for two weeks.
 

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Is it reasonable to view Sanford as the next ND coach in waiting? Or will he be gone before Kelly gives up the reigns?

I think BK knows if he stays for the long haul (which seems likely), then he'll only be here 5-8 more years. I would guess if BK thinks Sanford is the man-in-waiting then they'll have talks with Swarbrick about whether he'd be comfortable promoting from within or if Sanford needs HC experience elsewhere. If Sanford is ever told the job is his in a few years, it wouldn't make much sense for him to go to middling Power-5 program and potentially struggle.

The HC-in-waiting fad from a few years ago never seemed to go well, but I really wouldn't mind it here. BK has always seemed realistic about how long he wants to coach, and Sanford certainly seems like someone we don't want to lose.
 
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