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My weather app says 67 degrees and 30% chance of rain.

Call me crazy if you will, but wouldn't rain help the Irish? I know some people say that rain helps passing teams because of the defensive back's footing issues, but I have a tough time believing that passes are easier in the rain. It would make the game more of a ground game, and so I'm all for it. BRING ON THE RAIN!!!!
 
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Buster Bluth said:
My weather app says 67 degrees and 30% chance of rain.

Call me crazy if you will, but wouldn't rain help the Irish? I know some people say that rain helps passing teams because of the defensive back's footing issues, but I have a tough time believing that passes are easier in the rain. It would make the game more of a ground game, and so I'm all for it. BRING ON THE RAIN!!!!
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I'm thinking the same thing. If rain gives the defensive backs footing issues it would do the same for the receivers.

Rain would help Notre Dame
 
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Conventional wisdom is that rain discourages passing. I wouldn't mind a muddy slugfest in the trenches.
 
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arrowryan said:
I'm thinking the same thing. If rain gives the defensive backs footing issues it would do the same for the receivers.

Rain would help Notre Dame
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Not according to their thought process. A CB is backing up, a WR is running forward; a WR is the aggressor and "breaks" first, a CB is merely reacting.
 
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PWE?
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Projected Win Expectation. It's a measure of the model's confidence in its prediction. Lowest would be 51%. Highest would be 99%. It's pretty damned certain we're going to beat Purdue.
 
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The Navy game was good for ND. It allowed the Irish to start the season out strong and provide promise for the future. In reality though, that was a game they were supposed to win.

Looking at 2011, Southern Miss put up 283 rush yds and 301 pass yds on Navy last year. AF put 223 yds rushing against them. South Carolina put up 254 rush/204 pass yds.

I'm hopeful that this year the Irish can "W" the games they're supposed to. They do that and it will provide them the confidence and swagger they'll need to compete with the big dogs (OKST/USC)-and also close out games they should have won (Michigan anyone?).

I'm hoping that the confidence developed with the Navy win and the continued belief in Kelly's system will propel them toward another W this Sat (which I'm stoked to watch as I'll be back in the states again!).

Looking for secondary improvement, Golson's continued development-especially in the passing game - and another dominant game in the trenches.
 
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Great article Keith! I am not with the logic their seemingly equivalent rating of opening day's. Purdue made five turnovers, and still won. Try that against Navy. Yup, try that against Navy this year. No, I think turnovers are a great thing to look at. You don't have to go any farther than that.
 
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Bog, I haven't read the article yet but weren't most of their turnovers due to the QB? I think Terbush took way better care of the ball than Marve did last year. Have to think Terbush will help the TO issue a little for them. Now, having said that, I still think our D is plenty capable of creating some turnovers in this game. Just something to think about in regards to their TO's last week.
 
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Bogtrotter07 said:
Great article Keith! I am not with the logic their seemingly equivalent rating of opening day's. Purdue made five turnovers, and still won. Try that against Navy. Yup, try that against Navy this year. No, I think turnovers are a great thing to look at. You don't have to go any farther than that.
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PU's Offense and Special Teams gave up 5 TOs but their defense didn't yield any points from them.

Navy gave up 3 TOs and ND scored from all of them.

Last year ND generated few TOs by the Defense.
 
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NDdomer2 said:
Bog, I haven't read the article yet but weren't most of their turnovers due to the QB? I think Terbush took way better care of the ball than Marve did last year. Have to think Terbush will help the TO issue a little for them. Now, having said that, I still think our D is plenty capable of creating some turnovers in this game. Just something to think about in regards to their TO's last week.
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QBs Marve and Henry each had a fumble and an INT. Fifth TO was the punt returner's.
 
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PU's Offense and Special Teams gave up 5 TOs but their defense didn't yield any points from them.

Navy gave up 3 TOs and ND scored from all of them.

Last year ND generated few TOs by the Defense.
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Great analysis! I was too lazy to go through it all. When have we played a game, had five turnovers, and had it not hurt us? Mitigate the level of competition for PU all you want, EK has played other teams tough, other teams did badly against weaker competition last weekend, it is all conflation. I was suspect of where Purdue stood, and am suspect of where they stand. We are 30 points better than PU, let's see if the guys come out of the blocks like they did last weekend!
 
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I would like to thank Me2SouthBend:

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FWIW, Brovada lv (formerly known as bodog -my favorite-) has ND as 14.5 point favorites over Purdue.
 
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FWIW, Brovada lv (formerly known as bodog -my favorite-) has ND as 14.5 point favorites over Purdue.
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Really stupid question so flog me if you must but can I bet on those sites or are they just number sites?
 
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Phil Steele projects an Irish victory: 38-16

ND is coming off a trip to Ireland but wanted an early start time vs Navy (9 am EDT) so they could get back by Sunday morning and not interrupt their upcoming game week prep. ND was without last year’s starters QB Rees/RB Wood (both suspended) but didn’t miss a beat as rFr QB Golson threw for 144 (67%) and RB’s Riddick/Atkinson comb for 206 (7.4) and 4 td’s in their 50-10 win. Purdue starting QB TerBush was a late scratch (suspended, will start here) but experienced backup Marve came on to throw for a career-high 295 (79%) and 3 td’s in the Boilers 48-6 win over EKU. PU had 33-10 FD and 547-190 yard edges but had 5 TO’s. ND is now 6-1 (4 straight wins by 15 points per game) in this series. Last year PU had just the 7th night game ever in Ross Ade Stadium history (3rd vs ND) and for the 1st time since ’96 had bye the week before the Irish. ND still dominated with a 551-276 yard edge. ND had a 314-122 yard edge at halftime, led 35-3 mid-4Q and won 38-10 on the road with PU driving 95 yards for a garbage td with :21 left. PU has only beaten ND in South Bend one time since ’74 (1-14). The Irish will still have last year’s home opener debacle vs USF fresh in their minds and while PU is much improved look for the Irish to pull out the win.
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