Oct 8 | North Carolina State

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IF the defense builds on their 2nd half performance from last game, our Offense keeps doing what they're doing and we don't have multiple weather-related turnovers, I think we beat these guys by 10+.

If a frog had wings...he wouldn't bump his ass when he jumped.

But I agree.
 

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Someone explain to me if this is true or false, please:

1) Last year we had a big play run game
2) Last year a huge portion of our passing game was Will Fuller
3) We have 3 RBs and a O-line that people respected in the off-season
4) There was no proven WRs waiting to replace WF's production
5) Teams thought it made sense to try to focus on our run game early in the season
6) We've responded by opening up the passing game, and score close to 40 a game
7) Plus, our defense has given up a ton of points, making us rely on the passing game more

SO....

Maybe some of the ineffectiveness in our run game this year (as far as passing the eyeball test), is more about Kelly taking what the other team is giving us, and leaning on the pass game, then the running game really being substandard.

I thought we'd get to put that theory to the test this weekend, since I think everyone will be focusing on our passing attack from here on out. However, the rain is going to undermine that.

Yes, that's some of the problem. But I don't really believe it's opponents "taking away" the run that is our biggest problem. I think the biggest singular problem is that the TEs suck and can't set the edge. The second biggest problem is that Mustipher-McGovern-Bars is WAY worse than Martin-Elmer-McGlinchey was... they can't sustain blocks and move people. The third biggest problem is that we have somewhat been tipping our hand in the running game with our checks and alignments.
 

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:laugh: I was going to post the same thing.

I'd love to be at this game. Coach used to say the football gods were smiling when we'd get rain games. In practice we'd immediately go to tackling drills and guys would slide 10 feet on impact with the mud.

One of my favorite games is still the '08 Michigan game. It was raining cats and dogs, cascading waterfalls coming down the stadium steps. It was epic, but mostly because the skunkbears couldn't hold onto the ball.
 

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why would you go to those? watching ND sounds a hell of a lot better than those

My company's CEO(and good friend for 25 years) is on a mission to see a game in every Big X stadium, this season. These games will be #s 6 and 7 for him already this year (East Lansing, Minneapolis, Madison, West Lafayette, Bloomington already checked off). He bought the tickets and asked me if I wanted to go...
 

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My company's CEO(and good friend for 25 years) is on a mission to see a game in every Big X stadium, this season. These games will be #s 6 and 7 for him already this year (East Lansing, Minneapolis, Madison, West Lafayette, Bloomington already checked off). He bought the tickets and asked me if I wanted to go...

You bet, BOSS!
 

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Yes, that's some of the problem. But I don't really believe it's opponents "taking away" the run that is our biggest problem. I think the biggest singular problem is that the TEs suck and can't set the edge. The second biggest problem is that Mustipher-McGovern-Bars is WAY worse than Martin-Elmer-McGlinchey was... they can't sustain blocks and move people. The third biggest problem is that we have somewhat been tipping our hand in the running game with our checks and alignments.

Thanks!
 

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Someone explain to me if this is true or false, please:

1) Last year we had a big play run game
2) Last year a huge portion of our passing game was Will Fuller
3) We have 3 RBs and a O-line that people respected in the off-season
4) There was no proven WRs waiting to replace WF's production
5) Teams thought it made sense to try to focus on our run game early in the season
6) We've responded by opening up the passing game, and score close to 40 a game
7) Plus, our defense has given up a ton of points, making us rely on the passing game more

SO....

Maybe some of the ineffectiveness in our run game this year (as far as passing the eyeball test), is more about Kelly taking what the other team is giving us, and leaning on the pass game, then the running game really being substandard.

I thought we'd get to put that theory to the test this weekend, since I think everyone will be focusing on our passing attack from here on out. However, the rain is going to undermine that.
Get rid of the zone read and straight up run it. Until then we won't have a legit run game. Not with Kizer.
Will be at the game tomorrow can't wait
Is there a girl involved.
 

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:laugh: I was going to post the same thing.

I'd love to be at this game. Coach used to say the football gods were smiling when we'd get rain games. In practice we'd immediately go to tackling drills and guys would slide 10 feet on impact with the mud.

One of my favorite games is still the '08 Michigan game. It was raining cats and dogs, cascading waterfalls coming down the stadium steps. It was epic, but mostly because the skunkbears couldn't hold onto the ball.

I had never been so wet - and I played water polo most my life.

The start of the second half I couldn't even see the field.
 

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We just got back from dinner in downtown Raleigh. BK, Paqui, Longo, and Longo's wife (?) were sitting a few tables away from us. Not looking forward to tailgating in the rain.
 

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Oct 8 | North Carolina State

We just got back from dinner in downtown Raleigh. BK, Paqui, Longo, and Longo's wife (?) were sitting a few tables away from us. Not looking forward to tailgating in the rain.



WTF. Women weaken legs. Longo of all people should know that.

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I had never been so wet - and I played water polo most my life.

The start of the second half I couldn't even see the field.

That's right! This man knows what I'm talking about. It was epic. The only rain game I didn't enjoy was the 2010 South Florida game, but mostly because the weather was being a bitch with the lightning and just when we'd get some momentum they'd have to evacuate the damn stadium again. It was such a cluster fuck, not just on the field.

We just got back from dinner in downtown Raleigh. BK, Paqui, Longo, and Longo's wife (?) were sitting a few tables away from us. Not looking forward to tailgating in the rain.

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We just got back from dinner in downtown Raleigh. BK, Paqui, Longo, and Longo's wife (?) were sitting a few tables away from us. Not looking forward to tailgating in the rain.

Let me guess, Longo ordered the 32 oz steak but asked for only the fat?
 

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Last game that had a massive amounts of rain that I attended waso Notre Dame vs Stanford in 2012 got drenched at that one
 

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That's right! This man knows what I'm talking about. It was epic. The only rain game I didn't enjoy was the 2010 South Florida game, but mostly because the weather was being a bitch with the lightning and just when we'd get some momentum they'd have to evacuate the damn stadium again. It was such a cluster fuck, not just on the field.



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Ok, tell me where you're tailgating so I can tailgate with you, tough guy.
 

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Last game that had a massive amounts of rain that I attended waso Notre Dame vs Stanford in 2012 got drenched at that one

Last year's Clemson game, coupled with me camping on the water near campus was unreal. Frogtogs for 4 straight days. Was standing in 10inches of water watching the game. Still had a nice tailgate setup with generator and TV. Striper fishing in the monsoon the day before with Dabo and Venable's guide was off the hook.
 

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Looks like the storm stayed a bit more inland than people though and got north a little faster... end result is heavy bands of rain starting right at game time.
 

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Looks like the storm stayed a bit more inland than people though and got north a little faster... end result is heavy bands of rain starting right at game time.

Well, hopefully that helps our defensive backs, at least.
 

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Well, hopefully that helps our defensive backs, at least.

I always found this to be the complete opposite as far as "footing" was involed. Yeah, NCS might not pass as much with all the rain but when the WR knows where they are going and the DB doesn't...one slip and the DB is toast.
 

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I always found this to be the complete opposite as far as "footing" was involed. Yeah, NCS might not pass as much with all the rain but when the WR knows where they are going and the DB doesn't...one slip and the DB is toast.

Fair point.
Maybe it'll help our receivers then. 😉
 
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