Oct 6 | Virginia Tech

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ACamp1900 said:
It’s a road game so yeah... but besides that I’ve seen nothing from them to get overly worked up about and I see an actually legit defense in our boys. Aside from chasing by shadows with our history, I think we should be good here...
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Injury Report for VT

Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah - OUT (Season Ending)
Shaun Crawford - OUT (Season Ending)
Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa - OUT (Mid to Late November)
Jafar Armstrong - OUT (Late October - Navy)
Alex Bars - Questionable (MRI Sunday)
Tony Jones Jr. - Questionable (Unknown until Monday)
Khalid Kareem - Questionable (Not Reported as Injury by BK but down twice with bum ankle)

I also noticed Liam Eichenberg taken out but I thought that was just late game, big lead scenario. I hope and pray Alex Bars is able to come back from that injury because he’s an anchor for that line. Also the running back depth chart just got really thin to basically Dexter Williams and Jahmir Smith for the next few weeks (Avery Davis shouldn’t play another snap as a RB, he’s a slot/gadget guy but can’t be a RB when you fumble TWICE and don’t pick up any yardage between the tackles).
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I haven't seen an Injury List for VT yet but they have bigger problems than ND does. Last week against Old Dominion, Tech lost they starting QB Josh Jackson. This past Tuesday he had surgery to repair his broken left fibula. He's gone for a long time.

This week they started a transfer Ryan Willis stepped in and hit 17 of 27 passes for 327 yds and 3 TDs against a young secondary. ND's secondary isn't young.

Willis is not Costello nor does VT have a RB remotely as talented as Stanford's Love. VT was held to 2.0 yd/carry by the Duke defense.

Look at VT's opponents to date. They got headlines for upsetting a Top 25 FSU when FSU has clearly shown they should never have been ranked. They romped over William & Mary by 45 points ... a Division 1AA school. Then VT got routed by Old Dominion while VT was a heavy favorite. Yeah, yeah, VT's QB went down in the 4th quarter. Well what happened in the first 3 quarters when he was playing. How many ODU players would have gotten a scholarship at VT? Horrible loss. Then they beat, Duke, another Top 25 actually another of the Bottom of the Top 25 and another overrated team and one whose QB had been out for a couple of weeks with a broken clavicle.

VT's only wins over Div 1A teams are FSU and Duke.

FSU's wins were Div 1AA Samford where FSU was trailing, Northern Illinois, and a late come from behind win over underdog and not very good Louisville.

Duke was undefeated having beaten Army, Northwestern, Baylor, and North Carolina Central another 1AA team.

My point is simply VT, FSU, and Duke similarly played weak schedules and are all overrated teams. There is no good win among them.

Could VT beat ND? Yes, with Beamer in his prime and with a more talented team. They have neither. And 35,000 fans in Blacksburg in the night is no where near an intimidating environment as The Big House or other venues ND plays in regularly.

ND will only lose this game if they spend the week reading their press clippings.
 
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Sagarin Newest Rating Are Out

Sagarin Newest Rating Are Out

Sagarin Rating has ND at 85.55 and VT at 80.59 + 2.57 for Home Field Advantage which would make ND about a 2.5 favorite

Sagarin's PREDICTOR Model has ND at 84.73 and VT 80.42 + 2.57 HFA which would make ND a 1.74 pt favorite.

Sagarin's GOLDEN MEAN Model has ND at 87.43 and VT 80.64 +2.57 which would make ND a 4.22 pt favorite


Sagarin's RECENT Model which includes the more recent games, The Book Era, has ND at 92.95 and VT 81.39 +2.57 which would make ND a 8.99 pt favorite.


Book at QB with Williams and Jones at RB plus the deep ND Receiving Corps presents offensive threats VT has not yet faced. Even with the injuries on both ND's OLine and DLine they are a more formidable group than VT has faced. VT will see a pass rush for ND that Duke simply could not provide. And, they will see DBs bigger and more talented than they faced with Duke.

The first 3 Sagarin Rating and Models represent the ND team of the first 3 weeks while Sagarin's RECENT Model with ND as a 9 point favorite more closely reflects the current capability of ND.


Incidently the Wake Forest win, Sagarin's S.O.S for ND rose for 43 Toughest to 28th. After the Stanford win, Sagarin's S.O.S. for ND rose from 28th to 15th!


Sagarin's Rating is an average of his other Models and has ND ranked 13th this week.

Sagarin's RECENT Model based on the past few games has ND ranked #5 this week.
 
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I think we will be fine this game VT likes to throw a lot so we need to get QB pressure and force their new QB into stupid turnovers
 
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I'm more concerned about our injuries than VT

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BGIF said:
I haven't seen an Injury List for VT yet but they have bigger problems than ND does. Last week against Old Dominion, Tech lost they starting QB Josh Jackson. This past Tuesday he had surgery to repair his broken left fibula. He's gone for a long time.

This week they started a transfer Ryan Willis stepped in and hit 17 of 27 passes for 327 yds and 3 TDs against a young secondary. ND's secondary isn't young.

Willis is not Costello nor does VT have a RB remotely as talented as Stanford's Love. VT was held to 2.0 yd/carry by the Duke defense.

Look at VT's opponents to date. They got headlines for upsetting a Top 25 FSU when FSU has clearly shown they should never have been ranked. They romped over William & Mary by 45 points ... a Division 1AA school. Then VT got routed by Old Dominion while VT was a heavy favorite. Yeah, yeah, VT's QB went down in the 4th quarter. Well what happened in the first 3 quarters when he was playing. How many ODU players would have gotten a scholarship at VT? Horrible loss. Then they beat, Duke, another Top 25 actually another of the Bottom of the Top 25 and another overrated team and one whose QB had been out for a couple of weeks with a broken clavicle.

VT's only wins over Div 1A teams are FSU and Duke.

FSU's wins were Div 1AA Samford where FSU was trailing, Northern Illinois, and a late come from behind win over underdog and not very good Louisville.

Duke was undefeated having beaten Army, Northwestern, Baylor, and North Carolina Central another 1AA team.

My point is simply VT, FSU, and Duke similarly played weak schedules and are all overrated teams. There is no good win among them.

Could VT beat ND? Yes, with Beamer in his prime and with a more talented team. They have neither. And 35,000 fans in Blacksburg in the night is no where near an intimidating environment as The Big House or other venues ND plays in regularly.

ND will only lose this game if they spend the week reading their press clippings.
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First off. 35,000? Where the heck did you get that number? 65,632 fans will be there at that game and it will be standing room only. 8PM on ABC will produce a big time atmosphere. Also, VT is 7-1 at home in their last 8 games with their only loss coming to the 2016 National Champions, Clemson. Are they not as good as past years? Probably. They took a giant loss in their starting QB going down, but this will be no cake walk. Attendance-wise, Lane Stadium is 30th/130 FBS schools in capacity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_stadiums
 
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NDMIA said:
First off. 35,000? Where the heck did you get that number? 65,632 fans will be there at that game and it will be standing room only. 8PM on ABC will produce a big time atmosphere. Also, VT is 7-1 at home in their last 8 games with their only loss coming to the 2016 National Champions, Clemson. Are they not as good as past years? Probably. They took a giant loss in their starting QB going down, but this will be no cake walk. Attendance-wise, Lane Stadium is 30th/130 FBS schools in capacity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_stadiums
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We're going to win by 20, minimum. They're bad. Have you actually WATCHED any of their games? They're nowhere near our level. They're going to end up an 8-4 team in a terrible ACC.
 
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The biggest concern I have is RB. Dex is a baws but then we have two true freshmen that will have to play well for us. Armstrong isn't expected back and TJ Jr likely won't be back for a few weeks.
 
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greyhammer90 said:
Yep. Miami needed several miracles against bad teams to remain undefeated before the ND game. They looked totally ready to be exposed by a good team at night. Instead we got exposed.
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I was convinced we were going to stomp that team. We were the better team, I stand by that. More talent, more convincing wins, etc. Better team doesn't always win.
 
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I hope we don't come into this one gassed/flat after Stanford. That's what it felt like after the Michigan win, we were emotionally drained or overconfident, who knows. Not saying Virginia Tech is great this season, but they'll come ready to play in their house on prime time.
 
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Anyone who doesn't think this is a scary game is just silly. How many times has ND had a let down game. Personally I'm very optimistic, but I won't pretend it's not a huge road game.

If we go in to Blacksburg and deliver a beat down, I will be amazed, in awe, and all aboard the playoff train.
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Bingo, bango^^^
 
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ickythump1225 said:
I was convinced we were going to stomp that team. We were the better team, I stand by that. More talent, more convincing wins, etc. Better team doesn't always win.
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Me, too. I remember watching the Miami/GT game thinking “This team has benefitted from some historically decent teams being bad”. I thought ND would win convincingly.
 
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ND @ VT

ND @ VT

Oddshark doesn't have a line yet but they have a prediction:

PREDICTED SCORE
ND 30.0 - 31.4 VT
Virginia Tech will WIN, Cover the Spread.
 
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wizards8507 said:
We're going to win by 20, minimum. They're bad. Have you actually WATCHED any of their games? They're nowhere near our level. They're going to end up an 8-4 team in a terrible ACC.
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I remember your extreme confidence going into Miami last year too. This is concerning...
 
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wizards8507 said:
We're going to win by 20, minimum. They're bad. Have you actually WATCHED any of their games? They're nowhere near our level. They're going to end up an 8-4 team in a terrible ACC.
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I can see a 20 point win if we don't lose anymore key personnel but I don't see VT 8-4.

One loss already to ODU, I'd expect 2 more to ND and MIA. After that they have a pretty light schedule. No Clemson nor NC St this year. UNC and Pitt, the only remaining road games, are walkovers. VT should be a 7 to 10 point favorite over BC, GT, and UVA and I don't see a letdown after the ODU embarrassment. Is that what you're figuring?
 
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Heading to Blacksburg this weekend. Anyone know of any good bars near campus/stadium? Hung out at the Esso Club the day before the Clemson game a few years ago and met some really cool Clemson fans. Looking for a place like that.
 
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I'd certainly worry about a hangover. And being beaten up. Even if only Bars and Jafar are out, a bunch of other guys had rough nights last night. Normally I think we play fine on the road (sometimes better than home) but Va. Tech at night is a tough environment.
We're clearly the better team, but for those reasons it's hard to think this won't be close.
 
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Here's a fun fact for the upcoming game against Notre Dame:
Since Lane Stadium opened on Oct 2, 1965, 69 different teams have played against the #Hokies. The Irish will be the 70th team making their first appearance. @VT_Football is 51-16-2 against 1st time opponents in Lane.
 
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