ND Offers White Privilege Course

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Yeah there are still white poor people. It's just easier to get over being poor as a white person than being a black person. Your jail sentences are disproportionately longer, you're less likely to get callbacks on job interviews, you're not getting followed through a store, you're not getting targeted by police, you're not told negative stereotypes your whole life about your race, you don't have to worry about being judged for your color or being the representation of a whole race.

I do kind of agree here. However if you have a face tattoo and gauges no one's gonna take you seriously. You can get away with more if you are white IMO.
 

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When will they be doing a course on how Obungler did Benghazi and killed millions when he took away all of our guns?

I'm confused now. Obviously your just trolling but I don't get the direction your going. Are you sarcastically saying this view is also held by of all the people who are against the black communities recent behavior in the light of the Ferguson and New York ruling?? Cause when you bring up radical tin foil arguments like this it just makes me think that all the arguments you've previously been making fall on the same tinfoil grounds.
 
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I'm confused now. Obviously your just trolling but I don't get the direction your going. Are you sarcastically saying this view is also held by of all the people who are against the black communities recent behavior in the light of the Ferguson and New York ruling?? Cause when you bring up radical tin foil arguments like this it just makes me think that all the arguments you've previously been making fall on the same tinfoil grounds.

Making fun of the Benghazi obsessed people is fun and a lot of people like that are in this thread.

Tldr: it's Obola's fault.
 

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Making fun of the Benghazi obsessed people is fun and a lot of people like that are in this thread.

Tldr: it's Obola's fault.

Obola, as in Obama's fault? Hmm.... Interesting. Isn't Obama black? Why would he be hindering his fellow race? These are strange developments to say the least.
 

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Oh no don't teach me about the plight of others! The only racism is white people being called racism! Black people and Native Americans and Mexicans are just lazy! There's no institutionalized and structural racism!

No one said mexicans are lazy they probably work harder than any other race
 

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Making fun of the Benghazi obsessed people is fun and a lot of people like that are in this thread.
So Eric Garner's life mattered because he was black. Ambassador Stevens' life clearly didn't because he was white. Never mind the fact that one of them was a petty criminal and the other was serving his country. The reason Benghazi is still an issue is because the two people directly responsible are our current present and a likely candidate to be our next president. I promise that if any NYPD officer who has taken a life ever runs for president, it'll continue to be an issue even thirty years from now.

Edit: Also, you have ZERO business criticising anyone for being obsessed about a political issue. Benghazi? Who the hell has brought up Benghazi any time recently? Not me. Not TTownTommy, Rush Limbaugh, or Rand Paul. Just you.
 
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Honest question: is this message board the whitest, most male-dominated, middle-aged and middle-class place on earth? Do you guys even think you are capable of having quality discussion about this?
 

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The world isn't fair. America is much more fair than the vast majority if not all of the rest of the world. If anybody disagrees with that, list the countries you feel are better.

Is it easier as a whole to be white compared to black? I'd say yes. Is it easier to be white than Asian? I can't answer that. Maybe Asians fall under the white privilege umbrella?

What stats don't show is the opportunity that every INDIVIDUAL American has to having a better life. A white kid from a poor, single household in Arkansas can become president just as easily as a multi-racial kid from a single parent home in Hawaii.
 

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Honest question: is this message board the whitest, most male-dominated, middle-aged and middle-class place on earth? Do you guys even think you are capable of having quality discussion about this?
Yes, I think middle class white people probably know best how middle class white people feel about black people.

Also, what does that have to do with anything anyways. I'm sure you've never played FBS quarterback but have an opinion about Everett Golson's play this season. I'm sure you've never had an abortion but sure have an opinion about it.
 

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So Eric Garner's life mattered because he was black. Ambassador Stevens' life clearly didn't because he was white. Never mind the fact that one of them was a petty criminal and the other was serving his country. The reason Benghazi is still an issue is because the two people directly responsible are our current present and a likely candidate to be our next president. I promise that if any NYPD officer who has taken a life ever runs for president, it'll continue to be an issue even thirty years from now.

Edit: Also, you have ZERO business criticising anyone for being obsessed about a political issue. Benghazi? Who the hell has brought up Benghazi any time recently? Not me. Not TTownTommy, Rush Limbaugh, or Rand Paul. Just you.

Lol....^ this guy. Benghazi is an issue by stupid people for stupid people.
 

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Yes, I think middle class white people probably know best how middle class white people feel about black people.

Also, what does that have to do with anything anyways. I'm sure you've never played FBS quarterback but have an opinion about Everett Golson's play this season. I'm sure you've never had an abortion but sure have an opinion about it.

Fine, but we are the least qualified to assess the prevalence of white privilege. The fact that this class would be an issue for anyone is confirmation of a lot of what one part of the country thinks about the other part. Namely, that the other part is intentionally, actively and aggressively ignorant to what a lot of their fellow citizens experience every day.
 

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Originally Posted by Rhode Irish
Honest question: is this message board the whitest, most male-dominated, middle-aged and middle-class place on earth? Do you guys even think you are capable of having quality discussion about this?

Lol....^ this guy. Benghazi is an issue by stupid people for stupid people.


Asked and answered!

Well done counselor.
 

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You white pieces of shit remember the day you got your first bag of "white" gold? I remember it like it was yesterday. "The man" handed it to me, along with the deed to my home, degree and six figure salary, and I said to myself "I made it".
 

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I was in an EDMU or "Multicultural Education" class as it is a requirement for Ball State's Teacher's College. However, you do not feel like you're learning anything particularly new, you are just told that you're a bad person because you're white. That you've always and will always have it better than everyone else.

These courses are against what they suggest. Rather than teaching you more about particular races and bettering race relations, they let you know you are a bad person because you're white and there is nothing really to be done about it.

I think that a lot of posters here are ignorant to the idea of what is referred to as "White Privelege", but I also think that most the people who throw that term around have their heads so far up their ass it is unbelievable.
 
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I'm poking fun at people who think it's the biggest conspiracy in the world and the only injustice done.


Thanks for agreeing that it is an injustice. Glad to see your bias blinders coming off if only a smidgen.

But who said, it's the only injustice?

NOBODY but you.


Goebbels would be proud of your posting style.
 

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You white pieces of shit remember the day you got your first bag of "white" gold? I remember it like it was yesterday. "The man" handed it to me, along with the deed to my home, degree and six figure salary, and I said to myself "I made it".
Whew that was a big day. We had to make an appeal to White Jesus for my wife's "white" gold though due to her being like 1/32 Indian. Thankfully the ghosts of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson stepped in and granted her honorary white privilege status.
 
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All I know is that IrishPat is losing his collective mind not being able to argue in this thread.
 

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College football is racist. "Alabama" and "Missouri". A bunch of young black men toiling away without pay for their white overlords. Modern day plantation.
 

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Call me crazy but I thought that's what higher education is all about.

I don't have a beef with the course per se....but coming out of the gate it seemed a little combative...and my first impression was , well...this is one of those courses where students don't engage in an open discussion, but rather are fed information, and forced to write and "discuss" in ways that support it...ie critique is not welcome

...I am one who believes that type of course is a tragic waste of resources and students' valuable time because those NEVER serve the student, and don't stand up to my expectations for higher education.

I do leave open the notion that the goals for students were poorly presented, and this might very well be a good course...but am awaiting feedback from those who take it.
 

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I was in an EDMU or "Multicultural Education" class as it is a requirement for Ball State's Teacher's College. However, you do not feel like you're learning anything particularly new, you are just told that you're a bad person because you're white. That you've always and will always have it better than everyone else.

These courses are against what they suggest. Rather than teaching you more about particular races and bettering race relations, they let you know you are a bad person because you're white and there is nothing really to be done about it.

I think that a lot of posters here are ignorant to the idea of what is referred to as "White Privelege", but I also think that most the people who throw that term around have their heads so far up their ass it is unbelievable.

1. Change your major, like RIGHT NOW. You are better than this!
2. It is required to take this course to receive a teaching degree anywhere. Its intention is to help prospective educators empathize/understand students of colour, but doesn't do a good job achieving those goals
 

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1. Change your major, like RIGHT NOW. You are better than this!
2. It is required to take this course to receive a teaching degree anywhere. Its intention is to help prospective educators empathize/understand students of colour, but doesn't do a good job achieving those goals

If you want to be a teacher you have to run the liberal gauntlet to get there. I got a secondary ed endorsement just in case I wanted to teach / coach. Like ND, VU was very liberal for a religious school... especially the education dept.
 

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1. Change your major, like RIGHT NOW. You are better than this!
2. It is required to take this course to receive a teaching degree anywhere. Its intention is to help prospective educators empathize/understand students of colour, but doesn't do a good job achieving those goals

State law says if I'm going to be a head coach at a high school, I have to have a teaching degree.
 

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ND Offers White Privilege Course

State law says if I'm going to be a head coach at a high school, I have to have a teaching degree.


You're going the gym route then right?

*Where are you going to be coaching at?
 
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To be fair, I think most Mormons are well aware of the plight of others, considering how many of them (the Mormons, not "others") do missions in very poor areas of not just the US, but the world.

...yea, not to mention the Billions the LDS folks spend in direct medical and food support for all manner of disaster and calamity befalling folks all over the world...

Probably not the example one would want to present regarding ignorance of any man's plight...but then willful ignorance is kinda crazy like that.
 

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State law says if I'm going to be a head coach at a high school, I have to have a teaching degree.

I thought HS coaches just had to have worked for a driving school company for a summer.
 

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You're going the gym route then right?

*Where are you going to be coaching at?

Social Studies with concentrations in history and economics.

I currently coach at Monroe Central in Parker City. I've got a couple years of school left though so asking me where I end up right now...I have no clue.
 

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ND Offers White Privilege Course

If you want to be a teacher you have to run the liberal gauntlet to get there. I got a secondary ed endorsement just in case I wanted to teach / coach. Like ND, VU was very liberal for a religious school... especially the education dept.


And the gauntlet gets even more "interesting" throughout your career to say the least. This is my 11th year, and I had to spend 3 hours at a PD learning how to "Read aloud to students from poverty." I actually found it quite condescending towards the very people it was supposed to support, not to mention an enormous waste of time.
 
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