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I always find this offensive in football as a Catholic moreover as a fan of Notre Dame I found this used to be particularly offensive at the stadium of our Lady. Am I the only one?
 

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I always find this offensive in football as a Catholic moreover as a fan of Notre Dame I found this used to be particularly offensive at the stadium of our Lady. Am I the only one?

I have no beef with it.
 

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I always find this offensive in football as a Catholic moreover as a fan of Notre Dame I found this used to be particularly offensive at the stadium of our Lady. Am I the only one?

I have no problem with it.
 

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As a practicing Catholic, who normally is annoyed by most people talking about things that they don't understand, I actually have no issue with it. It's entered the lexicon of football because it's a last ditch attempt and you say a Hail Mary to hope that Our Lady looks upon you with favor.

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As a practicing Catholic, who normally is annoyed by most people talking about things that they don't understand, I actually have no issue with it. It's entered the lexicon of football because it's a last ditch attempt and you say a Hail Mary to hope that Our Lady looks upon you with favor.

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Exactly this...
 

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To clarify: I was not referring to you, OP, when I mentioned people talking about this that they do not understand. I meant more along the lines of "why doesn't the Catholic Church [insert any number of political topics]" or "LOL IT'S ZOMBIE JESUS DAY". Those kinds of people.

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I always find this offensive in football as a Catholic moreover as a fan of Notre Dame I found this used to be particularly offensive at the stadium of our Lady. Am I the only one?

Blame Notre Dame!

Despite Flutie being associated for the pass to Phelan against Miami in '84 it goes back at least to Notre Dame 95 years ago.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary_pass

A Hail Mary pass is a very long forward pass in American football, made in desperation with only a small chance of success. In the Hail Mary pass all receivers run straight toward the endzone and the quarterback will make a long pass that is often "up for grabs." The term became widespread after a December 28, 1975 NFL playoff game between the Dallas Cowboys and the Minnesota Vikings, when Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach (a Roman Catholic) said about his game-winning touchdown pass to wide receiver Drew Pearson, "I closed my eyes and said a Hail Mary."[1] Previous to this play, a last-second desperation pass had been called several names, most notably the "Alley-Oop."

The expression goes back at least to the 1930s, being used publicly in that decade by two former members of Notre Dame's Four Horsemen, Elmer Layden and Jim Crowley. Originally meaning any sort of desperation play, a "Hail Mary" gradually came to denote a long, low-probability pass attempted at the end of a half when a team is too far from the end zone to execute a more conventional play, implying that it would take divine intervention for the play to succeed. For more than forty years, use of the term was largely confined to Notre Dame and other Catholic universities.[2]


Origins[edit]
Crowley often told the story of an October 28, 1922, game between Notre Dame and Georgia Tech in which the Fighting Irish players said Hail Mary prayers together before scoring each of the touchdowns, winning the game 13-3. According to Crowley, it was one of the team’s linemen, Noble Kizer (a Presbyterian), who suggested praying before the first touchdown, which occurred on a fourth and goal play at the Tech 6-yard line during the second quarter. Quarterback Harry Stuhldreher, another of the Horsemen, threw a quick pass over the middle to Paul Castner for the score. The ritual was repeated before a third and goal play, again at Tech’s six, in the fourth quarter. This time Stuhldreher ran for a touchdown, which sealed the win for Notre Dame. After the game, Kizer exclaimed to Crowley, “Say, that Hail Mary is the best play we’ve got.” Crowley related this story many times in public speeches beginning in the 1930s.[2]

On November 2, 1935, with 32 seconds left in the so-called "Game of the Century" between Ohio State and Notre Dame, Irish halfback Bill Shakespeare found receiver Wayne Millner for a 19-yard, game-winning touchdown. Notre Dame head coach Elmer Layden (who had played in the 1922 Georgia Tech game) afterwards called it a “Hail Mary” play.[2]

An early appearance of the term was in an Associated Press story about the upcoming 1941 Orange Bowl between the Mississippi State Bulldogs and the Georgetown Hoyas. The piece appeared in several newspapers including the December 31, 1940 Daytona Beach Morning Journal under the headline, "Orange Bowl: [Georgetown] Hoyas Put Faith in 'Hail Mary' Pass"). As the article explained, "A ‘hail Mary’ pass, in the talk of the Washington eleven, is one that is thrown with a prayer because the odds against completion are big."

During an NBC broadcast in 1963, Staubach, then a Navy quarterback, described a pass play during his team’s victory over Michigan that year as a “Hail Mary play.” He scrambled to escape a pass rush, nearly getting sacked 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage before completing a desperation pass for a one-yard gain.[2]
 

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I can just picture it now:

Tirico: The Irish have just enough time in the half to attempt a Hail errrrrr ummmmm

Flutie: A Hail what?

Tirico: You know, that play where all the receivers are all on the same side of the field, they run down into the endzone and the quarterback throws it towards that group hoping that one of his receivers catches it for a touchdown?

Flutie: Ohhhh a Hail Mary!

Tirico: (Holds his hands up) I'm sorry I'm not familiar with that term.

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Frigging Presbyterians ruining everything ;)

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I have a neighbor that gets out the binoculars so that she can be offended when she catches people peeing off their boats in the middle of the lake. I think that if we were all a little less sensitive and presumed the best in others intentions rather than looking for their imperfections we'd all feel a wee bit better.
 

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We used to call it the Male Hairy in Sega College Football. Was that disrespectful?
 

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I always find this offensive in football as a Catholic moreover as a fan of Notre Dame I found this used to be particularly offensive at the stadium of our Lady. Am I the only one?

Personally I'm offended by others appropriating our culture. If we chose to use the term that's our business. But the use by Marian deniers is a macroaggression.
 

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I'm offended by everyone being offended so easily,... And that's pretty much it.
 
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I always find this offensive in football as a Catholic moreover as a fan of Notre Dame I found this used to be particularly offensive at the stadium of our Lady. Am I the only one?

Dude find something to do in your spare time...if this bothers you i can only imagine you're probably the life of the party....
 

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I've seen the college democrats on my campus be offended by stuff that has more merit than this.
 
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