Josh Adams for HEISMAN

[irishfan]

OSU shutting down Barkely coupled with Adams going for 100+ in a win would put a massive dent in Barkley's lead. Most recent updated odds I saw had Barkey 4:7 and Adams 40:1...

 

[beryirish]

Adams getting 3 TD's this past Saturday, IMO, was a big boost. He was coming into the game with only 5 TD's.

It's a good problem to have, but ND dominating has put a minor dent in why Adams has been late to the party.

 

[woolybug25]

How often is the leader after week 7 actually gone and won the Heisman?

 

[RDU Irish]

Adams could put up Tecmo bowl numbers if the staff wanted to play the Heisman hype train game. They are being responsible and he is killing it with his limited opportunities. Adams is #2 in my book which means (to me) no conversation should be taking place between respectable analysts without his name.

Anyone holding low UGA numbers against Adams without pointing out Barkley had 56 yards rushing (51 receiving) against Indiana and followed that up a 75 yard rushing/9 yards receiving game against Northwestern is not playing very honest.

Last week against Michigan - 111 yards came on two touches - the other 16 touches covered 50 yards. Other than the opening play of the game......

Oh - and against UGA - Adams had six receptions for 60 yards to combine with his 53 yards on the ground - 25 touches for 113 yards is a solid day against an elite defense.

 

[NDdomer2]

when was last time someone from a sub .500 team was a finalist for heisman?

 

[zelezo vlk]

when was last time someone from a sub .500 team was a finalist for heisman?

Hornung I guess

 

[T Town Tommy]

Adams could put up Tecmo bowl numbers if the staff wanted to play the Heisman hype train game. They are being responsible and he is killing it with his limited opportunities. Adams is #2 in my book which means (to me) no conversation should be taking place between respectable analysts without his name.

Anyone holding low UGA numbers against Adams without pointing out Barkley had 56 yards rushing (51 receiving) against Indiana and followed that up a 75 yard rushing/9 yards receiving game against Northwestern is not playing very honest.

Last week against Michigan - 111 yards came on two touches - the other 16 touches covered 50 yards. Other than the opening play of the game......

Oh - and against UGA - Adams had six receptions for 60 yards to combine with his 53 yards on the ground - 25 touches for 113 yards is a solid day against an elite defense.

Add that Barkley has a more effective passing game which should open more lanes for him to run in. Not saying I think Adams is better or worse... there are several RBs out there that aren't getting any mention and should be.

 

[beryirish]

Hornung I guess

^^^and the only.

 

[Hammer Of The Gods]

This weekend will help sort it out a bit in my opinion. If barkley has a mediocre-good game against OSU its his to lose. Get stuffed, have a fumble or something, its still a open race.

 

[koonja]

This weekend will help sort it out a bit in my opinion. If barkley has a mediocre-good game against OSU its his to lose. Get stuffed, have a fumble or something, its still a open race.

I could see this going like Fornette's heisman season, where he was the leader then went to Bama and had like 37 yards and you didn't hear much about him afterwards. OSU's DL is real.

 

[STLDomer]

Kahlil Tate will make a big run at the Heisman if he keeps this pace and Arizona can score an upset or two on the way.

 

[irishog77]

when was last time someone from a sub .500 team was a finalist for heisman?

Or just a mediocre team.

Timmy Tebow won it on an 8-4 team (deservedly) and as a Sophomore. RGIII's team had 2 losses (which was outstanding at Baylor). Jackson had what, 3 losses last year? Manziel had 2 or 3, but beat alabama.

The heisman is a sham. I think it kind of loses luster with each passing year. When guys like Ingram and Henry win it, it's clear voters are lazy and simply voting for the guy with the sexiest stats on the best team. Defensive players are almost never even finalists, let alone winners.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Or just a mediocre team.

Timmy Tebow won it on an 8-4 team (deservedly) and as a Sophomore. RGIII's team had 2 losses (which was outstanding at Baylor). Jackson had what, 3 losses last year? Manziel had 2 or 3, but beat alabama.

The heisman is a sham. I think it kind of loses luster with each passing year. When guys like Ingram and Henry win it, it's clear voters are lazy and simply voting for the guy with the sexiest stats on the best team. Defensive players are almost never even finalists, let alone winners.

The Heisman has been a sham for decades. It isn't a recent phenomenon.

 

[ACamp1900]

The heisman is a sham. I think it kind of loses luster with each passing year. When guys like Ingram and Henry win it, it's clear voters are lazy and simply voting for the guy with the sexiest stats on the best team. Defensive players are almost never even finalists, let alone winners.

I'm pretty much here... I haven't watched a Heisman ceremony in prob over a decade and care less and less about who wins every year... I grew up able to name most Heisman winners over the previous couple decades. I honestly couldn't name most of the last ten or so and don't care to look into who it was.

 

[RDU Irish]

Add that Barkley has a more effective passing game which should open more lanes for him to run in. Not saying I think Adams is better or worse... there are several RBs out there that aren't getting any mention and should be.

For what this trophy has become - it is hard to validate Josh Adams outside the Top 5 at this point of the season. Contending for the Heisman at Notre Dame should be as easy as it is at Alabama or Ohio State.

 

[Henges24]

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So I had seen somewhere on Twitter Saturday night that the horse is actually a cut from a "My Little Pony" commercial. If true probably one of the greatest gifs ever.

 

[IrishLax]

Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield and Saquon Barkley would be my locks for an invite. After than there is a lot of discussion and football to be played.

If Sam Darnold even sniffs NYC I’m boycotting the whole thing.

Mannnnnn fuck Baker Mayfield. Dude is overrated trash.

 

[STLDomer]

Mannnnnn fuck Baker Mayfield. Dude is overrated trash.

You forgot who daddy is.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

You forgot who daddy is.

Curtis Mayfield?

 

[Irish YJ]

With the Irish noise getting loud, Josh will be more and more in the spotlight.

UGA is a top 5 team (rushing D) and Josh had 53 yards. MichSt is top 10 and Josh had 56.

NCSt is top 10 as well, but our other remaining opponents are all outside the top 50 I believe.

If Josh can be successful this weekend, and keep killing it against the others, he will become more and more in the conversation. He won't catch Love, but all the other RBs are fair game.

I would love to see him get more targets in the passing game.

 

[RDU Irish]

With the Irish noise getting loud, Josh will be more and more in the spotlight.

UGA is a top 5 team (rushing D) and Josh had 53 yards. MichSt is top 10 and Josh had 56.

NCSt is top 10 as well, but our other remaining opponents are all outside the top 50 I believe.

If Josh can be successful this weekend, and keep killing it against the others, he will become more and more in the conversation. He won't catch Love, but all the other RBs are fair game.

I would love to see him get more targets in the passing game.

He had 60 yards receiving vs. UGA - over 100 from scrimmage for the day - there weren't many holes on the ground so they got to him through the air.

MSU - 9 touches and 6.2 average and lead the team rushing in a rout, 40 rushes and he only ran 9 of them. Why is he punished for not being needed? Same as rest of the season - he has sat a ton of minutes b/c we have depth and huge leads. Put your ace back in the hole and save it for when you need it!

You are correct on NCST - He needs a good game to make a push for the TOP spot, no doubt he is top 5. But don't act like these other chumps are only playing elite defenses.

 

[Irish YJ]

He had 60 yards receiving vs. UGA - over 100 from scrimmage for the day - there weren't many holes on the ground so they got to him through the air.

MSU - 9 touches and 6.2 average and lead the team rushing in a rout, 40 rushes and he only ran 9 of them. Why is he punished for not being needed? Same as rest of the season - he has sat a ton of minutes b/c we have depth and huge leads. Put your ace back in the hole and save it for when you need it!

You are correct on NCST - He needs a good game to make a push for the TOP spot, no doubt he is top 5. But don't act like these other chumps are only playing elite defenses.

Not acting like anything. Just looking at data. We'll see what Love can do against Washington (1st total D, 2nd rushing D). Taylor from Wiscy, his job is about to get harder too.

If ND wants to get him in the conversation, they know what to do.

 

[HoustonNDFan]

Booger McFarland was on Mike & Mike this morning saying that Josh Adams should be in the Heismen conversation and brought up that point on his own, wasn't led into it by Golic. So there's the start of some national attention for you.

I don't think he is flashy enough to have any chance at winning regardless of numbers. But he should for sure get an invite to New York if he keeps putting up this kind of production, especially in the big games.

 

[RDU Irish]

Not acting like anything. Just looking at data. We'll see what Love can do against Washington (1st total D, 2nd rushing D). Taylor from Wiscy, his job is about to get harder too.

If ND wants to get him in the conversation, they know what to do.

I don't think BK and company GAF about the Heisman. They have their eyes on a bigger prize. One that is best achieved through full roster use and keeping your stud horse fresh and well groomed.

And F-Love - nobody watches that west coast shit. He has fewer catches than Adams so he is disqualified.

 

[BobbyMac]

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[Irish YJ]

I don't think BK and company GAF about the Heisman. They have their eyes on a bigger prize. One that is best achieved through full roster use and keeping your stud horse fresh and well groomed.

And F-Love - nobody watches that west coast shit. He has fewer catches than Adams so he is disqualified.

It's the correct thing to "say" you don't GAF about the Heisman if you are a HC, but......

• once a name is out there, I think it's correct to give a chance so long as you don't put the team or player at risk. giving him a few more touches in certain situations is not uber risky
• ND has a Heisman history. It helps the brand.
• It helps recruiting
• Josh, while likely acting unselfish, wants to be in the conversation as it will help his draft stock

I want the team to prioritize winning, but I think they can do both. I'm not saying increase his touches by 50%, but for instance, try and ensure he gets 100yrds vs NC State if he's close. Let him have a few more carries against a chump D to even things out with the other RBs who are running against chumps every game. Little things.

 

[RDU Irish]

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LOL

Darnold looks like Hellboy in that pick (oops, Freudian slip - PIC).

 

[wizards8507]

Adams to #4 in the ESPN Heisman Watch.

 

[NDdomer2]

Hornung I guess

^^^and the only.

I figured but was too lazy to do the research. If current winning %'s carry to end of season no way Lamar Jackson is invited right? A kid people have voters remorse from the PY on a under .500 team is unlikely to be heisman, imo.

 

[BobbyMac]

I figured but was too lazy to do the research. If current winning %'s carry to end of season no way Lamar Jackson is invited right? A kid people have voters remorse from the PY on a under .500 team is unlikely to be heisman, imo.

Why would they have buyers remorse from last year? He's still the most productive football player in college.