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I'm probably in the minority but I think the Taggert hire is a pretty shit one. He definitely didn't prove he can do it on the big stage in Eugene.

Taggart is a real-deal program builder. Give him three years and FSU will be a machine in terms of the run game.

Ran a strict pro-style at Western Kentucky, where he turned an FCS doormat into a respectable DI squad in short order. Set the stage big time for the success Petrino and Brohm had with WKU. That much talent had no business being in Bowling Green, KY.

He rebuilt USF after they fell off post-Leavitt. Every year over the course of three years they got better, and he left one of the strongest Group-of-5 rosters out there for Charlie Strong. He also advanced his offense, going towards more of the power-read/counter-trey offense that is all the rage right now, adapting his own under-center principles to the more popular shotgun/spread formations.

Oregon wasn't great, but it was year one, and he was giving them a play-style overhaul. I don't think it's fair to judge one year at the top level.
 
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Who will be coaching the Skunkbears when the Colts/Bears pillage Harbaugh?

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3 schools in 3 years is an overstatement. I believe I read it was actually 364 DAYS.

3 schools in one calendar year lol.

It's a bad deal for the student athletes, but I can't say I'd turn down FSU if I was a Florida native.

He'll be doing some rebuilding when it comes to his rep nationally, but he left great in-roads across the state from his time at USF (and from his time at WKU, where he recruited FL really well for the Hilltoppers).
 

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Pruitt is a darn good DC. He can recruit with the best of them. But he is also a top notch as* to everyone. I just don't see him being able to successfully build and maintain those necessary relationships with people around the program, boosters, etc.

Yeah, that's the sense I get. It's always hard know how these coordinators will do once they get their first HC position.
 

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Taggart is a real-deal program builder. Give him three years and FSU will be a machine in terms of the run game.

Ran a strict pro-style at Western Kentucky, where he turned an FCS doormat into a respectable DI squad in short order. Set the stage big time for the success Petrino and Brohm had with WKU. That much talent had no business being in Bowling Green, KY.

He rebuilt USF after they fell off post-Leavitt. Every year over the course of three years they got better, and he left one of the strongest Group-of-5 rosters out there for Charlie Strong. He also advanced his offense, going towards more of the power-read/counter-trey offense that is all the rage right now, adapting his own under-center principles to the more popular shotgun/spread formations.

Oregon wasn't great, but it was year one, and he was giving them a play-style overhaul. I don't think it's fair to judge one year at the top level.

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Who will be coaching the Skunkbears when the Colts/Bears pillage Harbaugh?

Lol.

Bears are notoriously cheap. Doubt they'd pay the arm and leg that it'd cost to get him. He's making $7 million this year, made $9 million in total compensation last year because of that $2 million annuity. Michigan would pony up $9-10 million per in compensation package to keep him if push came to shove.

Colts? I don't think Jim would go work for that insane Jerry Jones wannabe drug addict with an ego bigger than the size of the state of Indiana in Jim Irsay. Big part of the reason why he turned Michigan down to go work for the 49ers was because of Dave Brandon. There was a lack of mutual appreciation between those two guys, let's just put it at that. Irsay is a Dave Brandon with billions instead of millions and a drug problem to boot. Don't see that one as likely.

Who really knows what the future holds, but I don't think Jim is leaving for awhile if ever.
 
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Lol.

Bears are notoriously cheap. Doubt they'd pay the arm and leg that it'd cost to get him. He's making $7 million this year, made $9 million in total compensation last year because of that $2 million annuity. Michigan would pony up $9-10 million per in compensation package to keep him if push came to shove.

Colts? I don't think Jim would go work for that insane Jerry Jones wannabe drug addict with an ego bigger than the size of the state of Indiana in Jim Irsay. Big part of the reason why he turned Michigan down to go work for the 49ers was because of Dave Brandon. There was a lack of mutual appreciation between those two guys, let's just put it at that. Irsay is a Dave Brandon with billions instead of millions and a drug problem to boot. Don't see that one as likely.

Who really knows what the future holds, but I don't think Jim is leaving for awhile if ever.

That sucks, since I am sure you will want to win a divisional title at some point, let alone a conference one. Harbaugh = Poor Man's Cooper
 

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3 schools in one calendar year lol.

It's a bad deal for the student athletes, but I can't say I'd turn down FSU if I was a Florida native.

He'll be doing some rebuilding when it comes to his rep nationally, but he left great in-roads across the state from his time at USF (and from his time at WKU, where he recruited FL really well for the Hilltoppers).

yeah I agree with both your posts.

Taggart was as close to a home run as FSU could have gotten considering time of year and available candidates. Upside with that hire is huge.

Jimbo's act was running stale there with the fans and the power brokers that write the checks, holding the powers that be ransom every year demanding more and more and more. And to me he's always been a really good coach, not a great one. A&M will find that out the hard way after guaranteeing the guy $75 million.

There were probably only two jobs that Taggart would've bolted Oregon for, FSU and Florida, and that's it. Just so happens both of them had openings and one of them offered him a job.
 

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That sucks, since I am sure you will want to win a divisional title at some point, let alone a conference one. Harbaugh = Poor Man's Cooper

Lol.

John Cooper probably never would have won 6 games in the NFL had he gone to coach at that level. Not in a season. In his entire career. Complete buffoon of a coach, incredible recruiter though.
 

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Bears are notoriously cheap. Doubt they'd pay the arm and leg that it'd cost to get him. He's making $7 million this year, made $9 million in total compensation last year because of that $2 million annuity. Michigan would pony up $9-10 million per in compensation package to keep him if push came to shove.

Colts? I don't think Jim would go work for that insane Jerry Jones wannabe drug addict with an ego bigger than the size of the state of Indiana in Jim Irsay. Big part of the reason why he turned Michigan down to go work for the 49ers was because of Dave Brandon. There was a lack of mutual appreciation between those two guys, let's just put it at that. Irsay is a Dave Brandon with billions instead of millions and a drug problem to boot. Don't see that one as likely.

Who really knows what the future holds, but I don't think Jim is leaving for awhile if ever.

IDK, he has no problem coaching at a backwards school built on bigotry and racism so..... ;)
 

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Lol.

John Cooper probably never would have won 6 games in the NFL had he gone to coach at that level. Not in a season. In his entire career. Complete buffoon of a coach, incredible recruiter though.

Good thing Big 10 titles are won based on NFL success, amirite?

You know what Cooper and Harbaugh have in common? After three years of coaching, neither have defeated OSU/UM.

Sad!
 

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BK and Bobby D. Reunite in Oregon...works for both. Diaco can run wild with bend don't break, and strictly recruiting measureables...because all Oregon knows is Defense every 5...and BK can make another run at tempo/spread flinging it 60 times a game. Be our luck he'd finally find his qb up there...
 

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Taggart is a real-deal program builder. Give him three years and FSU will be a machine in terms of the run game.

Ran a strict pro-style at Western Kentucky, where he turned an FCS doormat into a respectable DI squad in short order. Set the stage big time for the success Petrino and Brohm had with WKU. That much talent had no business being in Bowling Green, KY.

Go Hilltoppers!!!

Loved my four years on the Hill.
 

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So after all of this Tennessee may end up with Fulmer as AD and Jeremy Pruitt as HC? I’d be stoked as a Tennessee fan. Could have ended up with a lot lot worse.
 

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So after all of this Tennessee may end up with Fulmer as AD and Jeremy Pruitt as HC? I’d be stoked as a Tennessee fan. Could have ended up with a lot lot worse.

Seriously? You'd be happy with that? Pruitt is a Tier C choice at best. And why he hasn't gotten a shot before is that he's well known behind the scenes as being, umm, let's say "loose" with the NCAA rules and a huge asshole.

This has all the telltale signs of a Hugh Freeze meltdown in ~5 years. Will probably recruit great, will probably win a lot of games, and then will probably have things go off the rails in spectacular fashion. I would've taken Mike Leach 100 out of 100 times over Pruitt.
 

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Seriously? You'd be happy with that? Pruitt is a Tier C choice at best. And why he hasn't gotten a shot before is that he's well known behind the scenes as being, umm, let's say "loose" with the NCAA rules and a huge asshole.

This has all the telltale signs of a Hugh Freeze meltdown in ~5 years. Will probably recruit great, will probably win a lot of games, and then will probably have things go off the rails in spectacular fashion. I would've taken Mike Leach 100 out of 100 times over Pruitt.

There are a lot of assholes who break the rules in college sports.

Doesn’t change Pruitt from being an elite recruiter and the engineer of many of the top defenses in CFB for the last 5+ years.
 
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There are a lot of assholes who break the rules in college sports.

Doesn’t change Pruitt from being and elite recruiter and the engineer of many of the top defenses in CFB for the last 5+ years.

Why has he not gotten an HC job before if he's so good? Why did none of the million other openings look at him this year? Why was he not even one of Tennessee's first 10 choices?

I'm telling you he has serious skeletons in his closet and a bad reputation. Best of luck , I guess.
 

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Could my boys go into just one playoff with all our coordinators?
 

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Oregon will name Mario Cristobal head coach. He's Co OC and OL coach there now. Very respected among the players.

Also, there's this portion of his resume: 2013–2016 Alabama (OL)

I'm sure he picked up a few things.
 

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Oregon will name Mario Cristobal head coach. He's Co OC and OL coach there now. Very respected among the players.

Also, there's this portion of his resume: 2013–2016 Alabama (OL)

I'm sure he picked up a few things.

Seems pretty meh to me. 27-47 career record at fiu going 3-9 in his last year. I realize he's a solid recruiter but I wouldn't touch that HC record with a 10ft pole if ND were hypothetically considering him. Seems like that's the Oregon could have reasonably done, though, considering the bind Taggart put them in.
 

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Seems pretty meh to me. 27-47 career record at fiu going 3-9 in his last year. I realize he's a solid recruiter but I wouldn't touch that HC record with a 10ft pole if ND were hypothetically considering him. Seems like that's the Oregon could have reasonably done, though, considering the bind Taggart put them in.

To be fair, he has a higher winning % there than the program does overall. School only started football in 2002. His predecessor, who was with the program at the beginning, only won 27%, Cristobal won 36.5%, Ron Turner 25%, and now Butch Davis in his first year went 8-4.

I can't fault Cristobal for his record at FIU, trying to even recruit 3 star guys with an infant program against FAU, UCF, USF, even Miami, Florida, and FSU taking some of them.
 

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Seems pretty meh to me. 27-47 career record at fiu going 3-9 in his last year. I realize he's a solid recruiter but I wouldn't touch that HC record with a 10ft pole if ND were hypothetically considering him. Seems like that's the Oregon could have reasonably done, though, considering the bind Taggart put them in.

The players made a huge push to promote him and, as I mentioned previously, it seems Oregon is most concerned about recruiting at this point, and they believe this was best.

But I'm with you, this is a bizarre hire long term. If I was a fan, I'd be glad that they didn't get wrapped up in the coaching carousel by substantially overpaying some above average coach. However, I think they still could've done that, with a much better hire.
 

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He's a horrible coach and this is hilarious. Oregon headed to being a Tier 3 team in its own conference. Rewind 5 years and they were basically untouchable... how quick things change in CFB.
 

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I suppose it's possible he's not the same person professionally as he was when he was at FIU. Remote, but possible.

Cristobal supposedly knows the Saban Blueprint inside and out better than anyone Saban has ever coached with. That's probably a beneficial thing for him in interviews.

Yes, I know that doesn't mean he's going to have Saban's success. The point is a lot of these guys come across very well in the interviewing process.
 
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