Favorite Major City

[GoIrish41]

San Francisco is a wonderful city.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Every problem you just outlined with New York is exactly my experience with people from Chicago, with the added problem of the inferiority complex that comes from being not New York. The finance bros who couldn't get into Wall Street are the finance bros that populate Chicago.

He assumes there's a much higher % of down-to-earth Midwestern girls in Chicago than NYC, but I've got no frame of reference.

If I were your buddy, I'd make a move right up 95 and get a sweet place in Boston's north end. Big money/ finance sector.

Tell him to grab some FRS/ Red Bull/ 5 hour energy if he's burned out and Boston will be his playground. 250,000 college students in the city. I'd say 60% roughly are female. Do the math lol

That's exactly the sort of thing he's burned out on. Now he's looking to get married and start a family. He'd probably have a better chance of finding a family-oriented woman in Boston, but I doubt the odds are favorable enough to warrant a move.

And to be fair to gk and other New Yorkers, the Phoenix metro area is far from perfect:

 

[wizards8507]

There's nothing worse than city snobs either. Like the people who live and work in D.C. that look down upon people who live in Alexandria or anywhere else outside the city. The people that live in Santa Monica that look down upon people living in the OC. The people living downtown in San Francisco that look down upon people living outside the city. And so on and so forth.

Nashville is starting to get that now. Drives me nuts. Especially coming from people who are transients and have been here like a week.

Case in point:

I'm not a city snob. I personally hate cities. What bugs me is people who CLAIM to be from a city, but aren't. My wife grew up in Phoenixville, PA. Not Philadelphia, Phoenixville. If you're from Dekalb, say you're from Dekalb. You're not from Chicago.

 

[wizards8507]

I think Chicago is a great city I just can't stand the arrogance people from the Chicago area have over it. Most of my friends are from the Chicago area, Cleveland or New England and I run into exactly the above all the time.

Your Cleveland friends are arrogant about being from Cleveland? Do they know what Cleveland is?

Your New England friends' attitude is justified however, there being no greater place on the planet.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Country snobs can be just as annoying

I'm not sure "snobbery" is the right word for it. More like suspicion. Because clearly, the odds of emerging from one of these urban dens of iniquity as a decent person are pretty low.

So keep your hands where I can see 'em, City Slicker.

 

[STLDomer]

Your Cleveland friends are arrogant about being from Cleveland? Do they know what Cleveland is?

Your New England friends' attitude is justified however, there being no greater place on the planet.

I didn't mean to infer the Cleveland people (though the Lebron and Manziel thing is getting annoying) and New England people (couple Massholes but not too bad) are arrogant too. Just the Chicago people.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Do you live in Baltimore?

Nah I just moved back to MD after graduating from ND. I'm up the road in Frederick for at least two years, but Baltimore is my intended permanent landing spot. I just happen to know a lot of people in Baltimore and I spend a lot of time down there.

 

[wizards8507]

I didn't mean to infer the Cleveland people (though the Lebron and Manziel thing is getting annoying) and New England people (couple Massholes but not too bad) are arrogant too. Just the Chicago people.

Paging dshans.

 

[irishog77]

I'm not a city snob. I personally hate cities. What bugs me is people who CLAIM to be from a city, but aren't. My wife grew up in Phoenixville, PA. Not Philadelphia, Phoenixville. If you're from Dekalb, say you're from Dekalb. You're not from Chicago.

Unless you live along the Mexican/U.S. border, are the people and lifestyles that different from 2 miles away?

You do realize city and suburban relationships are both necessary and symbiotic, don't you? NYC or Manhattan, alone, could not support the amount of people that work there. Some people like working there, but would prefer to have, perhaps, a yard or space to raise their 3 children. NYC or Manhattan can not support that. But places outside the city allow that to happen.

If somebody works in Chicago, socializes in Chicago, attends Chicago functions, but sleeps in Dekalb, isn't it more accurate that that person spends the majority of his time (awake) in Chicago than Dekalb?

Get over yourself.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

I didn't mean to infer the Cleveland people (though the Lebron and Manziel thing is getting annoying) and New England people (couple Massholes but not too bad) are arrogant too. Just the Chicago people.

Paging dshans.

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[Jebediah Springfield]

I'm not sure "snobbery" is the right word for it. More like suspicion. Because clearly, the odds of emerging from one of these urban dens of iniquity as a decent person are pretty low.

IMO One group acts like their poop dont stink cuz they are doing such amazingly amazing things... the other acts like their poop dont stink because of the amazingly normal things they do.

And we are talking about transplants for the most part.

I spent most of my childhood in the heart of LA and when I talk to old friends , they always complain about hipsters and transplants...


Edit: But as city boy I do love me the countryside.

 

[Emcee77]

Every problem you just outlined with New York is exactly my experience with people from Chicago, with the added problem of the inferiority complex that comes from being not New York. The finance bros who couldn't get into Wall Street are the finance bros that populate Chicago.

I also can't stand people from the Chicago suburbs. They think they're so urban because they're "from Chicago," but they actually live 45 minutes away (without traffic). I grew up 45 minutes from Boston and I didn't even live in the same state. YOU'RE NOT FROM CHICAGO.

Some truth to both points. We definitely have our fair share of finance bros. And as for the bolded, I have definitely teased some of my college friends for just this. In college they would tell people they were from "Chicago"; then we would go to visit them in the summer and find out that they are from nowhere near Chicago.

 

[GoIrish41]

Nah I just moved back to MD after graduating from ND. I'm up the road in Frederick for at least two years, but Baltimore is my intended permanent landing spot. I just happen to know a lot of people in Baltimore and I spend a lot of time down there.

I'm not too far from you then. I live in the last town before the Mason Dixon line in Pennsylvania off route 83 and work in Edgewood Maryland, near Aberdeen.

 

[woolybug25]

I lived in Denver for 10 years and loved that town. So much going for it in weather, women, activities, music, food and culture. Over 300+ days of sunshine with a Rocky Mtn backdrop. Here are some cities I dig, and not dig... in no particular order

Dig
Denver
Seattle
Portland
Chicago
Vancouver, CA

Do Not Dig
Buffalo - this town can eat shit.
Detroit - although, the metro isn't bad.
NYC - Sorry GK and Grahambo. Just not my speed.
Vegas - This town shouldn't exist.

Some Non Big Cities I Dig
Charleston, SC
Burlington, VT
Bozeman, MT
Boulder, CO
Key West, FL

 

[Whiskeyjack]

IMO One group acts like their poop dont stink cuz they are doing such amazingly amazing things... the other acts like their poop dont stink because of the amazingly normal things they do.

If this sort of "country arrogance" exists, I've never encountered it. Rural folks do tend to take pride in the simplicity and authenticity of localism, but they don't think it makes them special. But it does cause them to regard city-dwellers as morally suspect. Narrow-minded and/or prejudiced? Maybe. Arrogant? No.

I spent most of my childhood in the heart of LA and when I talk to old friends , they always complain about hipsters and transplants...

You'd hate the Phoenix area, then. I'm 3rd generation Arizonan, but that's extremely rare. Everyone here is a transplant, mostly from the Midwest and Northeast.

 

[ryno 24]

I really love Cincinnati and Indianapolis. They have the Midwestern feel but still have most of what a person could want from a big city.

Also if I was going to move to a coast I would live in San Diego. It is beautiful there is a beach and it is somewhat sane for being in California.

I cant stand DC. I worked in politics and the place will literally steal your soul. Chicago and New York seem too expensive.

Also Cleveland and Detroit are without a doubt the two worst cities in America.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

I'm not too far from you then. I live in the last town before the Mason Dixon line in Pennsylvania off route 83 and work in Edgewood Maryland, near Aberdeen.

I love that area. We used to take a boat out of Havre de Grace every summer with some friends and that weekend always topped a trip to OCMD.

 

[ACamp1900]

Every problem you just outlined with New York is exactly my experience with people from Chicago, with the added problem of the inferiority complex that comes from being not New York. The finance bros who couldn't get into Wall Street are the finance bros that populate Chicago.

I also can't stand people from the Chicago suburbs. They think they're so urban because they're "from Chicago," but they actually live 45 minutes away (without traffic). I grew up 45 minutes from Boston and I didn't even live in the same state. YOU'RE NOT FROM CHICAGO.

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I'm from Los Angeles...



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[irishog77]

If this sort of "country arrogance" exists, I've never encountered it. Rural folks do tend to take pride in the simplicity and authenticity of localism, but they don't think it makes them special. But their outlook does cause them to regard city-dwellers as morally suspect. Narrow-minded and/or prejudiced? Maybe. Arrogant? No.



You'd hate the Phoenix area, then. I'm 3rd generation Arizonan, but that's extremely rare. Everyone here is a transplant, mostly from the Midwest and Northeast.

I think it exists. But I think there's probably a difference between suburban people and actual rural people in this regard. I'll back Jebediah up. In the 5+ years I lived in rural Arkansas and in my time spent traveling in rural Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Tennessee, etc., I have encountered it frequently.

But I will say, the people I know here who live in suburban Nashville or my sister, who lives in Versailles, KY (outside of Lexington) do so in a manner you described. They prefer a little land, a slower pace, and a location that suits them raising their children.

 

[tussin]

I lived in Denver for 10 years and loved that town. So much going for it in weather, women, activities, music, food and culture. Over 300+ days of sunshine with a Rocky Mtn backdrop. Here are some cities I dig, and not dig... in no particular order

Dig
Denver
Seattle
Portland
Chicago
Vancouver, CA

Do Not Dig
Buffalo - this town can eat shit.
Detroit - although, the metro isn't bad.
NYC - Sorry GK and Grahambo. Just not my speed.
Vegas - This town shouldn't exist.

Some Non Big Cities I Dig
Charleston, SC
Burlington, VT
Bozeman, MT
Boulder, CO
Key West, FL

Given your tastes, you're on the wrong side of the country my friend. Don't you live in Buffalo?

Also, I see a trend:
Charleston, SC - Redfish and hot girls
Burlington, VT - Battenkill
Bozeman, MT - Maddison, Yellowstone, etc.
Boulder, CO - Front range
Key West - Bonefish
Key West, FL

 

[woolybug25]

Given your tastes, you're on the wrong side of the country my friend. Don't you live in Buffalo?

Nah, West Michigan, homie.

20 minutes from the Dome.

I lived in Buffalo for the worst 1.5 years of my life. Horrid town.

 

[Grahambo]

No need to apologize WB!

Boston is also a fav of mine but nothing beats NYC in my opinion.

I do like the feel of the Midwest despite being a Jersey kid.




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[Jebediah Springfield]

If this sort of "country arrogance" exists, I've never encountered it. Rural folks do tend to take pride in the simplicity and authenticity of localism, but they don't think it makes them special. But their outlook does cause them to regard city-dwellers as morally suspect. Narrow-minded and/or prejudiced? Maybe. Arrogant? No.

1. Some people definitely have their pride lead to arrogance. They talk like their simplicity is what makes them special in comparison to city people's lives.

You'd hate the Phoenix area, then. I'm 3rd generation Arizonan, but that's extremely rare. Everyone here is a transplant, mostly from the Midwest and Northeast.

2. If it's like the Inland Empire in CA then yeah just shoot me instead of sending me there lol

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[NDohio]

How does Florence, Italy compare to Florence, Alabama? Comparable?

Ha - A couple of guys tried to pick me up in Florence, AL one time. That was an experience.

I don't think I will ever live in a major city again but I do enjoy spending time in them.

Boston is probably my favorite. The combination of the historical aspects of the city and the college crowd make it a great place to visit. The food is great too(although I think scrod is way overrated). I do hate the way people drive though.

Nashville is a great town too.


There are some mid-sized cities that I really like.

Downtown Chattanooga is a great place - especially for a family. The minor league ballpark, aquarium, river bank, and some of the best restaurants I have ever had are in Chattanooga.

I also really like what is happening in Richmond, VA. The re-gentrification of the old tobacco warehouses into condos and new eateries make it a great destination.

 

[irishog77]

Gun to your head, which city would you live in?:

-Baltimore
-Detroit
-Cleveland
-Gary
-Buffalo
-Montgomery
-Newark or Trenton

And the parameters of the question are that you'd have to live in the city, and not be able to leave its city limits.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Hard to imagine being resident in a really big city. I've enjoyed visiting several, but mostly that's the fantasy of touring or just cherry-picking the best.

Of those places Chicago [which I visited a hundred times] got to have a comfortable feeling about it, as did Boston, Seattle, Quebec, Edinburgh, even Minneapolis/St.Paul. The worst "feelings" were NYC, Detroit, Los Angeles, Houston, and London. Las Vegas almost made me turn around and catch the next plane out --- even the "cathedral" took chips in the collection tray and you "lit a candle" by pushing a button on a lightbulb. Made my skin crawl.

Brief visits with friends to Tucson and Albuquerque/Santa Fe were pleasant but Tucson only in winter. Florence was nice. Vancouver was nice. All this stuff though is either irrelevant or just self-oriented tourist attraction --- actually LIVING there is all about whether you have good friends and good people generally around you. That's why my poor little Michigan city of Kalamazoo is my only "dream home." {heck, I even had three really good visits to Atlanta, entirely due to my brother hosting us around to one neat thing after another.}

p.s. I went to grad school in Cleveland [4 years] and have relatives from there. It never even seemed like a city to me, just a huge empty-cored mass of buildings [boarded up downtown areas at the time and afterwards], with admittedly a nice core-distant museum district near Case Western Reserve U [a park in which a thug tried {unsuccessfully, thankfully} to mug me with a knife.] I understand the city is much better now. The thug has probably by now run for mayor. [hopefully also unsuccessfully.]

 

[Grahambo]

Baltimore


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[NDohio]

I lived in Denver for 10 years and loved that town. So much going for it in weather, women, activities, music, food and culture. Over 300+ days of sunshine with a Rocky Mtn backdrop. Here are some cities I dig, and not dig... in no particular order

Dig
Denver
Seattle
Portland
Chicago
Vancouver, CA

Do Not Dig
Buffalo - this town can eat shit.
Detroit - although, the metro isn't bad.
NYC - Sorry GK and Grahambo. Just not my speed.
Vegas - This town shouldn't exist.

Some Non Big Cities I Dig
Charleston, SC
Burlington, VT
Bozeman, MT
Boulder, CO
Key West, FL

On the bucket list is seeing a concert at Red Rock.

 

[ryno 24]

Gun to your head, which city would you live in?:

-Baltimore
-Detroit
-Cleveland
-Gary
-Buffalo
-Montgomery
-Newark or Trenton

And the parameters of the question are that you'd have to live in the city, and not be able to leave its city limits.

Ive only been there once but Baltimore seems like a much more livable city than any of the others

 

[IrishLax]

Gun to your head, which city would you live in?:

-Baltimore
-Detroit
-Cleveland
-Gary
-Buffalo
-Montgomery
-Newark or Trenton

And the parameters of the question are that you'd have to live in the city, and not be able to leave its city limits.

Baltimore. Would chill in the aquarium all day and I love Old Bay.