ESPN

[ACamp1900]

If people didn't like the Point/Counterpoint format (PTI excluded) and truly yearned for the ESPN of old, wouldn't ESPNews beat those shows head to head?

IDK if it's "walter cronkite" that anyone is yearning for here... like I stated earlier you can have personalities and flair without it being a cesspool... Dan Patrick's show is a great example... if they have a disagreement it's not obviously contrived for ratings... they don't troll fan bases in shallow and see through attempts... it isn't sensationalism... and it works well, even though I'd argue even they don't cover sports enough (they basically cover golf, football and NBA) but that's just my tastes on that.

I don't even know if it's JUST the point -counter point of espn... it's the clear cynically contrived way it's put out.

 

[no.1IrishFan]

If people didn't like the Point/Counterpoint format (PTI excluded) and truly yearned for the ESPN of old, wouldn't ESPNews beat those shows head to head?

Absolutely. People would rather listen to an argument.

 

[wizards8507]

If people didn't like the Point/Counterpoint format (PTI excluded) and truly yearned for the ESPN of old, wouldn't ESPNews beat those shows head to head?

Maybe on a level playing field. But ESPNews 1) is in fewer households, 2) gets lesser-known talent, and 3) doesn't get lead-in from live events.

But your main point is right. People complain about the #HotTakes stuff, but that IS what gets ratings. Just maybe not on SportsCenter in particular.

 

[Wild Bill]

If people didn't like the Point/Counterpoint format (PTI excluded) and truly yearned for the ESPN of old, wouldn't ESPNews beat those shows head to head?

Haven't watched either channel in years but I remember ESPNews being noticeably low budget with awkward anchors. I would have guessed a phone app would have put ESPNews out of business by now.

 

[drayer54]

Someone leaked this photo from Bristol this afternoon...

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Absolutely. People would rather listen to an argument.

Really? I don't think so.

 

[ACamp1900]

People complain about the #HotTakes stuff, but that IS what gets ratings.

As in politics and many other arenas... getting the mouth breathers is what counts.

 

[Cali_domer]

Haven't watched either channel in years but I remember ESPNews being noticeably low budget with awkward anchors. I would have guessed a phone app would have put ESPNews out of business by now.

ESPNnews is low quality IMO.

 

[ND NYC]

great article from 2015 when this same thing happened (300 people let go at espn).

some good quote by people in media with suggestions on what espn needed to do, or should consider changing that (of course) ESPN did NOT do.

and so here we are, with Stephhen A Smith the face of the ESPN franchise.

Unreal...


https://www.si.com/more-sports/2016/01/04/espn-image-future-2016-john-skipper

 

[Bishop2b5]

Danny Kannel (known as the no-eyelashes shitweasel around my house) is gone. It's a good day. I hope the only job he can get is as a laundry boy at a Camden, NJ brothel... or the sideline reporter for the Browns. Same thing.

 

[Sureal]

One reason ESPN is laying off employees is to save 'SportsCenter' - Business Insider

Here is another good article

 

[BobbyMac]

ESPNnews is low quality IMO.

If ESPNews had Hannah Storm and Jay Crawford level talent on it all day who would watch that? (I would)

I think this is the perfect time for FoxSports to launch a CNN/SI clone. Someone call Fred Hickman, Vince Cellini, Gary Miller and Van Earl Wright. Tell them they're getting the band back together. If Hannah doesn't like her decreased role, she's invited back too.

RIP Nick Charles.

 

[Cali_domer]

If ESPNews had Hannah Storm and Jay Crawford level talent on it all day who would watch that? (I would)

I think this is the perfect time for FoxSports to launch a CNN/SI clone. Someone call Fred Hickman, Vince Cellini, Gary Miller and Van Earl Wright. Tell them they're getting the band back together. If Hannah doesn't like her decreased role, she's invited back too.

RIP Nick Charles.

Yes, as long as it stays on sports and not turn in a political platform.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Sports Center is going the way of evening news and newspapers. It's a dead industry, and I'm honestly surprised they held on as long as they did. Their short-sighted soirée into politics certainly didn't help either.

I'm not crying for them. This couldn't have happened to a bigger bunch of self-important jackasses.

 

[IrishLion]

You good Wiz?

 

[NDbrbkny]

they should have fired Jemiele Hill that gavone has no credibility, plus im not happy they fired Jaymee Sire besides the fact she is beautiful she has credibility.

 

[woolybug25]

Sports Center is going the way of evening news and newspapers. It's a dead industry, and I'm honestly surprised they held on as long as they did. Their short-sighted soirée into politics certainly didn't help either.

I'm not crying for them. This couldn't have happened to a bigger bunch of self-important jackasses.

This hit Wiz to the core. Cold blooded.







That's a joke, btw. For sensitive Sally's out there, Wiz is fine.

 

[IrishLion]

This hit Wiz to the core. Cold blooded.







That's a joke, btw. For sensitive Sally's out there, Wiz is fine.

I meant "good" in terms of "laid off or nah?" not if his feelings were hurt, for the record lol

 

[wizards8507]

Still ballin'. But this definitely wasn't on-air talent exclusively.

 

[NDRock]

Danny Kannel (known as the no-eyelashes shitweasel around my house) is gone. It's a good day. I hope the only job he can get is as a laundry boy at a Camden, NJ brothel... or the sideline reporter for the Browns. Same thing.

I loved Danny Kanell, most because he pissed off every SEC fan I know.

So, anyone but white dudes get the axe today?

 

[NDdomer2]

Still ballin'. But this definitely wasn't on-air talent exclusively.

Doesn't sound good for u man. Hope you and your family get back on your feet asap!

 

[NDdomer2]

Danny Kannel (known as the no-eyelashes shitweasel around my house) is gone. It's a good day. I hope the only job he can get is as a laundry boy at a Camden, NJ brothel... or the sideline reporter for the Browns. Same thing.

Jeez what did Danny do to you?

 

[NDRock]

Jeez what did Danny do to you?

He wouldn't slobber all over the SEC like the rest of the ESPN shills.

 

[woolybug25]

Jeez what did Danny do to you?

Whatever it was, I betcha sex was involved.

 

[NDgradstudent]

So, anyone but white dudes get the axe today?

Of course not. ESPN has long since turned into MSNBC Sports.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Danny Kannel (known as the no-eyelashes shitweasel around my house) is gone. It's a good day. I hope the only job he can get is as a laundry boy at a Camden, NJ brothel... or the sideline reporter for the Browns. Same thing.

Danny was good when he wanted to be. But he had too much Clay Travis in him.... say stupid stuff fishing for clicks.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Jeez what did Danny do to you?

I've always found him to be smug, snide and biased... sort of the Bill Mahr of sports. A couple of years ago I attended a seminar and he was one of the featured speakers. Ended up sitting at the table with him for lunch. Everyone at the table wanted to spit in his food by the time lunch was over. He was an insufferable ass.

 

[wizards8507]

Doesn't sound good for u man. Hope you and your family get back on your feet asap!

What? No I'm fine.

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[ACamp1900]

Thank goodness, I was starting to worry too...

 

[NDdomer2]

What? No I'm fine.

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Then quit your crying