Coaches Hot Seat '17 CFB

[connor_in]

Schiano should get a few bucks out of this.

Personally not sure how good of a head coach he could be. Started to turn some things around and Rutgers, but then plateaued.

 

[Irish#1]

Now Schiano is considering suing....

Thought I heard this morning that there may have been an agreement or some formal paperwork that was signed, prior to the uproar and UT backing out.


As far as Brohm, from the IndyStar...........Brohm signed a six-year contract worth nearly $20 million last December. His buyout before Dec. 5 is $5 million, plus the remaining balance of a $900,000 loan Purdue paid to Western Kentucky. According to his contract, $150,000 of the loan will be forgiven on Dec. 31 each year. After Dec. 5, Brohm’s buyout drops to $4 million.

When asked about his name connected to openings, Brohm said last week he understands how the process works. And then added, “I love it here.”

Would find it hard to believe he would leave after one year unless the money was crazy good since he's already making $3.3M per year plus incentives.

 

[ulukinatme]

Note from a Penn State Trustee on Schiano:



What TN fans did to Schiano is almost criminal.

Nothing against Schiano, but I have a hard time taking anything as truth from someone in the Penn State family. So the Freeh report is complete fiction then? I find it interesting that they used that quote: "A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority." So...if the Penn State faithful believe Joe Pa was completely innocent, does that mean he wasn't necessarily innocent? If they believe there was no cover up...I'm confused....

 

[ab2cmiller]

If I'm Kiffin, I'm not sure I would want the Tennessee job, unless all I cared about was the money.

Right now there appears to be a strong movement of Vol fans embracing the thought of Kiffin returning. This has very little to do with what Lane has done as a head coach. It's primarily because Vol fans are desperate. The desperate fan tells himself I can overlook how Lane screwed us over the first time. The problem is that if Lane struggles at all in year 1 and 2 those same fans that convinced themselves that they could overlook Lane's past transgressions, will turn on him so fast that it will make his head spin.

I don't know if the Tennessee administration would give him a short leash, but I can almost guarantee you that the Vol fan base will.

 

[irishff1014]

I hope all the good options turn Tennessee down.

 

[connor_in]

Sooooo, if I understand what is happening here... basically, UT is now irrelevant?????

 

[Dizzyphil]

If I'm Kiffin, I'm not sure I would want the Tennessee job, unless all I cared about was the money.

Right now there appears to be a strong movement of Vol fans embracing the thought of Kiffin returning. This has very little to do with what Lane has done as a head coach. It's primarily because Vol fans are desperate. The desperate fan tells himself I can overlook how Lane screwed us over the first time. The problem is that if Lane struggles at all in year 1 and 2 those same fans that convinced themselves that they could overlook Lane's past transgressions, will turn on him so fast that it will make his head spin.

I don't know if the Tennessee administration would give him a short leash, but I can almost guarantee you that the Vol fan base will.

I hope all the good options turn Tennessee down.

The Vol fans around me were sure they were going to get Mullen or Kelly. They believe Tennessee is a top 5 job if not higher. At the club last night, many were highly upset that both were 'wiffed' on and that Schiano was 'the last resort'. When Kiffin was brought up, many were pissed that the name even came up.

 

[Irish YJ]

The Vol fans around me were sure they were going to get Mullen or Kelly. They believe Tennessee is a top 5 job if not higher. At the club last night, many were highly upset that both were 'wiffed' on and that Schiano was 'the last resort'. When Kiffin was brought up, many were pissed that the name even came up.

Agree (I have a few UT buddies).
None of them want Lame Kitten back. I mean, TN did actually name a waste plant after Kiffin lol...
I'm more practical. Lane did well (recruiting and on the field) when at UT. If Lane would be someone that is committed to TN, I think he could do well there. I just don't see Lane ever being committed to anything but himself.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Interesting scenario if Tennessee does hire Kiffin.

Does Tennessee allow him to bring Kendal Briles with him to be the OC at Tennessee. If they did, it would seem like it would be a PR disaster, given what has happened with Schiano already.

 

[Dizzyphil]

Agree (I have a few UT buddies).
None of them want Lame Kitten back. I mean, TN did actually name a waste plant after Kiffin lol...
I'm more practical. Lane did well (recruiting and on the field) when at UT. If Lane would be someone that is committed to TN, I think he could do well there. I just don't see Lane ever being committed to anything but himself.

Interesting scenario if Tennessee does hire Kiffin.

Does Tennessee allow him to bring Kendal Briles with him to be the OC at Tennessee. If they did, it would seem like it would be a PR disaster, given what has happened with Schiano already.

Tennessee is in 'almost' the same conundrum Notre Dame is in (or the other way around however you look at it). Not only is the coach a 'hot-topic', but the AD (John Currie) is also under some fire. What a lot of people may not know is, Peyton Manning's fingerprints were all over the Schiano hire. Manning thought he was the best decision available out there for a coach.

What I meant about Currie is, although he hasn't been there long, his decisions of late have been questionable at best. Much like Swarbrick, I believe it is time to 'clean the slate' if you will at ND.

 

[Dizzyphil]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Tennessee fans were making this hire I think <a href="https://twitter.com/Lane_Kiffin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Lane_Kiffin</a> would be the choice. How remarkable would this be? <a href="https://t.co/QkqnDX903p">pic.twitter.com/QkqnDX903p</a></p>— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/935514661297856512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Dizzyphil]

Tennessee is in 'almost' the same conundrum Notre Dame is in (or the other way around however you look at it). Not only is the coach a 'hot-topic', but the AD (John Currie) is also under some fire. What a lot of people may not know is, Peyton Manning's fingerprints were all over the Schiano hire. Manning thought he was the best decision available out there for a coach.

What I meant about Currie is, although he hasn't been there long, his decisions of late have been questionable at best. Much like Swarbrick, I believe it is time to 'clean the slate' if you will at ND.

Wake Up Zone | WGFX-FM

Go to the pod-casts, listen to Jimmy Hyams (about 20 minutes long) start at the 15 minute mark and he explains Peyton's involvement. Can't believe after Peyton and Schiano's history Peyton endorsed him.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Father of Jarrett Guarantano throwing some shade at the Vol fans.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have a fair question for all the Vol fans that protested the Schiano hire. When our AD hires our next HC, and if all of you “like” the hire, are the players allowed to protest and say that’s not who they wanted ? Get ready cause Pandora’s box just got opened !</p>— James Guarantano (@JamesGuarantano) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesGuarantano/status/935276062015197186?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 27, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Dizzyphil]

Father of Jarrett Guarantano throwing some shade at the Vol fans.

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Radio station was speaking of this tweet this morning. Fair tweet I believe.
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[Irish YJ]

Wake Up Zone | WGFX-FM

Go to the pod-casts, listen to Jimmy Hyams (about 20 minutes long) start at the 15 minute mark and he explains Peyton's involvement. Can't believe after Peyton and Schiano's history Peyton endorsed him.

Thanks for the link. Will give it a listen. My pre-listen opinion is that it's a good thing to have Manning's hands in this mix. He is a shrewd business man, and is as close to a football god to Vol fans as there gets.

The whole Schiano thing just gives me a sick feeling. Even if the story is correct, he's the one that actually reported the bad stuff. Sure you can second guess him and say he should have done more, but we don't even know if this hearsay is even true. It's not like there's any allegation that he tried to cover things up, or was part of the scheming to my knowledge. If TN backing out is because a few uninformed PC snowflake shitheads, it's weak sauce IMO. The guy does not need for his career to constantly get hijacked due to the guilty by association narrative.

 

[stlnd01]

Schiano should get a few bucks out of this.

Personally not sure how good of a head coach he could be. Started to turn some things around and Rutgers, but then plateaued.

How exactly was Schiano damaged here? Financially, I mean.
Did he turn down other jobs for Tennessee that have since been filled? Cut ties with OSU? Yes his name was sullied, perhaps inappropriately, by an internet mob but you can’t very well sue them. Tennessee bungled it royally but the university isn’t who dragged his name through the mud. He has all sorts of people emerging to vouch for him now should he want to pursue other head gigs. And he still has his job as DC of the Buckeyes. In two weeks this’ll be an afterthought and he’ll be fine.

Tennessee, OTOH, is screwed.

 

[Irish YJ]

Radio station was speaking of this tweet this morning. Fair tweet I believe.
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it's very fair. if crap went down just because of a hundred or so SJW students, UT deserves anything they get. would love to see some counter protests...

 

[Dizzyphil]

Thanks for the link. Will give it a listen. My pre-listen opinion is that it's a good thing to have Manning's hands in this mix. He is a shrewd business man, and is as close to a football god to Vol fans as there gets.

The whole Schiano thing just gives me a sick feeling. Even if the story is correct, he's the one that actually reported the bad stuff. Sure you can second guess him and say he should have done more, but we don't even know if this hearsay is even true. It's not like there's any allegation that he tried to cover things up, or was part of the scheming to my knowledge. If TN backing out is because a few uninformed PC snowflake shitheads, it's weak sauce IMO. The guy does not need for his career to constantly get hijacked due to the guilty by association narrative.

Just as I posted right before you, I believe the tweet to be fair. If people can publicly demean someone on something they were not convicted or even tried for, how can anyone get a fair 'shake'? And will the kids that are actually playing under that coach have any say.

I believe what this has done - put a negative seed in any future coach that want to go or does go to TN to coach. "Who runs this place? The AD or the fan-base?"

 

[Dizzyphil]

How exactly was Schiano damaged here? Financially, I mean.
Did he turn down other jobs for Tennessee that have since been filled? Cut ties with OSU? Yes his name was sullied, perhaps inappropriately, by an internet mob but you can’t very well sue them. Tennessee bungled it royally but the university isn’t who dragged his name through the mud. He has all sorts of people emerging to vouch for him now should he want to pursue other head gigs. And he still has his job as DC of the Buckeyes. In two weeks this’ll be an afterthought and he’ll be fine.

Tennessee, OTOH, is screwed.

If you go to that link I posted, Jimmy Hyams spells out how Schiano and his agent (Sexton) can get money out of this fiasco.

 

[Irish YJ]

How exactly was Schiano damaged here? Did he turn down other jobs for Tennessee that have since been filled? Cut ties with OSU? Yes his name was sullied, perhaps inappropriately, by an internet mob but you can’t very well sue them. Tennessee bungled it royally but the university isn’t who dragged his name through the mud. He has all sorts of people emerging to vouch for him now should he want to pursue other head gigs. And he still has his job as DC of the Buckeyes. In two weeks this’ll be an afterthought and he’ll be fine.

Tennessee, OTOH, is screwed.

Name was sullied (stupid SJW fault), missed out on a bigger paycheck (UT at fault), and is now deemed uncommitted to OSU (UT at fault) by Buckeye fans. There is both tangible and intangible damage. The damage was done by the University for caving to a small group of SJWs.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Thanks for the link. Will give it a listen. My pre-listen opinion is that it's a good thing to have Manning's hands in this mix. He is a shrewd business man, and is as close to a football god to Vol fans as there gets.

The whole Schiano thing just gives me a sick feeling. Even if the story is correct, he's the one that actually reported the bad stuff. Sure you can second guess him and say he should have done more, but we don't even know if this hearsay is even true. It's not like there's any allegation that he tried to cover things up, or was part of the scheming to my knowledge. If TN backing out is because a few uninformed PC snowflake shitheads, it's weak sauce IMO. The guy does not need for his career to constantly get hijacked due to the guilty by association narrative.

UT is in quite the quandary. From an outsiders POV, they felt they deserved more than Schiano and rested on the PSU crutch to voice their displeasure. Now, the rumor is they are going after Gundy, the same guy who turned them down in 2012. They just need to stop with this non-sense and focus on a coach they can get. UT better get their act together....and quick. Remember, early signing period this year....

 

[Irish YJ]

Just as I posted right before you, I believe the tweet to be fair. If people can publicly demean someone on something they were not convicted or even tried for, how can anyone get a fair 'shake'? And will the kids that are actually playing under that coach have any say.

I believe what this has done - put a negative seed in any future coach that want to go or does go to TN to coach. "Who runs this place? The AD or the fan-base?"

It's neither the AD or fanbase. It's the SJWs who are in control.... My buddies (UT grads) were perfectly fine with Schiano (although they thought they should have gotten a few other guys).

 

[Free Manera]

How exactly was Schiano damaged here? Financially, I mean.
Did he turn down other jobs for Tennessee that have since been filled? Cut ties with OSU? Yes his name was sullied, perhaps inappropriately, by an internet mob but you can’t very well sue them. Tennessee bungled it royally but the university isn’t who dragged his name through the mud. He has all sorts of people emerging to vouch for him now should he want to pursue other head gigs. And he still has his job as DC of the Buckeyes. In two weeks this’ll be an afterthought and he’ll be fine.

Tennessee, OTOH, is screwed.

I don't think he would have to show damages if there was a contractual buyout in effect. His argument is probably that the buyout is applicable and UT needs to negotiate a settlement.

 

[Dizzyphil]

It's neither the AD or fanbase. It's the SJWs who are in control.... My buddies (UT grads) were perfectly fine with Schiano (although they thought they should have gotten a few other guys).

Sure, Currie had other names on the list but, many just said no. If not for Florida opening up, Mullen MAY have had a better chance of going. Now Arkansas and A&M are open so, TN has its work cut out.

What is very amusing is both the Nashville and Knoxville radio announcers that are either UT alum or UT homers really believed they had a legitimate chance at Gruden. Now, some may say they did but, they kept on and on about how Gruden was coming even after Gruden said no.

Now they are after Grundy and Hyams is reporting, Grundy is talking to them. Hey, money talks.

 

[SoIll]

No way Gundy leaves Oklahoma State is there?

 

[ab2cmiller]

No way Gundy leaves Oklahoma State is there?

Supposedly they would offer enough to double his current pay. Depends on how happy he is at Ok St.

 

[Dizzyphil]

No way Gundy leaves Oklahoma State is there?

I, personally, doubt it. Grundy loves OkSt.

 

[dublinirish]

Supposedly they would offer enough to double his current pay. Depends on how happy he is at Ok St.

pickens has infinite money. probably a ploy by gundy to get a raise

 

[ACamp1900]

Supposedly they would offer enough to double his current pay. Depends on how happy he is at Ok St.

Or Gundy could just be playing around to see if he could get more of the Pickens fortune. IMO you'd have to pay me a lot more than double to make that move....

 

[zelezo vlk]

pickens has infinite money. probably a ploy by gundy to get a raise

Maybe Pickens has said that the mullet has to go?