Banned Users

[connor_in]

 

[ulukinatme]

Has anyone ever considered the user name Brian Kelly and posted like Brian Kelly would, say during the 2011 USF game? It would be pretty funny to hear that Brian Kelly's responses to the posts in the ND Oversold on Brian Kelly thread. Just kind of thinking out loud.

This needs to happen, I do enjoy some faux user handles. Theres a Weis one that posts on BP from time to time that's amusing, as well as a Beano Cook and former (dead) US Presidents.

 

[irishog77]

Where were the pictures with him and players he was talking about? Did his pics all look like this one?:

 

[koonja]

Couple of things...

1) I apologize to anyone who took offense to my post 'He's black and from Texas, sign him up!'. That was meant to include italics, but I posted from my phone and when I was logging into desktop to fix it, I was banned so quickly that I didn't have a chance to add italics. That was dumb of me, and I should have just waited to post at all.

2) That was not 'racist', nor am I a racist. I've been on this site for almost 3 years. If I were racist, it would have shown by now. That post, as dumb as it was to post without italics, was a stereotype. There is a BIG difference between being a racist and acting on a stereotype and it's reckless to throw out the racism label when it's in fact a stereotype.

3) I was going to start a thread on this, but 'banned users' seems appropriate. What exactly is the protocol for banning someone?

Again, I've been on this site for 3 years. Never have I acted or posted with even a hint of racism. I made a dumb post that is missing italics, and all of a sudden within 2 minutes I receive a PM saying 'banned' coming back: 'never' with no chance to explain or edit?

What happened to infractions, or asking me through PM or on the thread, what I was talking about? A lifetime ban over something that might be interpreted incorrectly is a hefty punishment, and when there are a half dozen or so mods, there's multiple opportunities for different point of views.

I think (correct me if I'm wrong) but Title2014 was given a lifetime ban from IrishEnvy because a mod mistakenly thought that he was asking to be banned, when in fact he was asking 'kanye west' to be banned for telling another poster that he should have been aborted. Now Title2014 is banned for life and it was a misinterpretation (again, unless something happened that I missed).

That's the problem IMO with the current system of banning. I think you guys (when the sin is not apparent) should discuss it before it's too late.

And where the hell was the 'miss it you rapist!' posts during the Michigan vs. North Western game?!? You guys really F-d that up!

 

[woolybug25]

lolol Wooly TOTALLY vindicated

 

[NDinL.A.]

Title2014 has been banned before (by me). He used to do things where he was just begging to be banned. I actually ignored a lot of it but enough was enough, as he would keep at it even when asked to cool it. I know he can't stand me LOL.

So there is precedent there kuenja...I don't know what the circumstances were but I'm sure the mods had good reasoning, given his history.

 

[ACamp1900]

There were very few posters who were as pretentious as that guy... funny thing is that he looked down on others without providing anything of substance himself... the site is much better without.

 

[Redbar]

For the sake of heading off some of the questions: Irishfan33 was given the boot because he misrepresented his position with respect to the staff and team.

I'm shocked.

 

[koonja]

Title2014 has been banned before (by me). He used to do things where he was just begging to be banned. I actually ignored a lot of it but enough was enough, as he would keep at it even when asked to cool it. I know he can't stand me LOL.

So there is precedent there kuenja...I don't know what the circumstances were but I'm sure the mods had good reasoning, given his history.

Yeah, but who can? .

Thanks for the explanation. But when it's not an apparent infraction (I get that everyone used discretion differently, but a real obvious post I'm saying) I wish that there would be a chance for explanation from the OP.

I did not enjoy my week off. I tried to talk ND with my ONE friend who claims to be an Irish fan, but he didn't even know who our backup QB was, SMH.

 

[Ironman8]

A poster's history, effect or potential effect on the board, and the nature of a reported post are definitely all things we consider in discussing potential bans and their length. Further, almost every ban occurs after several of the moderators discuss the potential ban and come to some sort of agreement on course of action.

That is the best way I believe to do it, and I think the other mods agree with me. May not always be popular, but we always try to do what is in the best interest of the board.

 

[connor_in]

Yeah, but who can? .

Thanks for the explanation. But when it's not an apparent infraction (I get that everyone used discretion differently, but a real obvious post I'm saying) I wish that there would be a chance for explanation from the OP.

I did not enjoy my week off. I tried to talk ND with my ONE friend who claims to be an Irish fan, but he didn't even know who our backup QB was, SMH.

Internet forum posters trying to to interact in the real world...SMH

 

[ACamp1900]

It must be so nice having a full team of mods... when myself, HCTI and co. ran the thing there was maybe four/five of us and at least a couple of those had very limited time to give... You would be lucky if there was another mod online to have that dialogue with.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

2) That was not 'racist', nor am I a racist. I've been on this site for almost 3 years. If I were racist, it would have shown by now. That post, as dumb as it was to post without italics, was a stereotype. There is a BIG difference between being a racist and acting on a stereotype and it's reckless to throw out the racism label when it's in fact a stereotype.

In the absence of italics or any sort of context, it was a single sentence that assumed an arguably harmful racial stereotype. Whether or not that qualifies as "racist" is besides the point, because several people found it offensive and reported it as such.

Again, I've been on this site for 3 years. Never have I acted or posted with even a hint of racism. I made a dumb post that is missing italics, and all of a sudden within 2 minutes I receive a PM saying 'banned' coming back: 'never' with no chance to explain or edit?

What happened to infractions, or asking me through PM or on the thread, what I was talking about? A lifetime ban over something that might be interpreted incorrectly is a hefty punishment, and when there are a half dozen or so mods, there's multiple opportunities for different point of views.

LAX banned you immediately, but consulted with the rest of the mods afterward, and everyone agreed that a week off was appropriate given your past infractions and the tenor of the board following the Pitt loss. We don't ban people lightly, and we usually seek out consensus among the mods before doing anything.

The moderating interface that's most convenient for us to use has a field for inputting "Ban Expiration", but regardless of what we put there, it seems to be defaulting to "Never". There's a less convenient interface that apparently doesn't have this problem, which we will be using in the future.

I think (correct me if I'm wrong) but Title2014 was given a lifetime ban from IrishEnvy because a mod mistakenly thought that he was asking to be banned, when in fact he was asking 'kanye west' to be banned for telling another poster that he should have been aborted. Now Title2014 is banned for life and it was a misinterpretation (again, unless something happened that I missed).

Go check his post history. He was drunk and posting like a confrontational as$hole during and after the Pitt game. Two separate mods independently and simultaneously attempted to give him 24 hours off. As far as I know, he's free to return at this point.

That's the problem IMO with the current system of banning. I think you guys (when the sin is not apparent) should discuss it before it's too late.

We almost always do. In your case, your week off was affirmed by the mods online immediately after it was imposed.

 

[koonja]

A poster's history, effect or potential effect on the board, and the nature of a reported post are definitely all things we consider in discussing potential bans and their length. Further, almost every ban occurs after several of the moderators discuss the potential ban and come to some sort of agreement on course of action.

That is the best way I believe to do it, and I think the other mods agree with me. May not always be popular, but we always try to do what is in the best interest of the board.

In 3 years I have zero history of being racist. Furthermore, I don't believe I've once called another member a name or bullied anyone.

I agree this is the best way to do it, and is what I was questioning, because I do not think this is what happened in my case.

In posts that can be taken different ways, I think the OP should have a chance to explain his or herself if it's not overly egeregious before they're banned a minute later.

Anyways, just my opinion on the matter.

 

[koonja]

In the absence of italics or any sort of context, it was a single sentence that assumed an arguably harmful racial stereotype. Whether or not that qualifies as "racist" is besides the point, because several people found it offensive and reported it as such.



LAX banned you immediately, but consulted with the rest of the mods afterward, and everyone agreed that a week off was appropriate given your past infractions and the tenor of the board following the Pitt loss. We don't ban people lightly, and we usually seek out consensus among the mods before doing anything.

The moderating interface that's most convenient for us to use has a field for inputting "Ban Expiration", but regardless of what we put there, it seems to be defaulting to "Never". There's a less convenient interface that apparently doesn't have this problem, which we will be using in the future.



Go check his post history. He was drunk and posting like a confrontational as$hole during and after the Pitt game. Two separate mods independently and simultaneously attempted to give him 24 hours off. As far as I know, he's free to return at this point.



We almost always do. In your case, your week off was affirmed by the mods online immediately after it was imposed.

I completely agree it was a dumb post of no value, even with italics. But it wasn't racist at all. Period.

Thanks for explaining that. I did not know.

 

[irishpat183]

So we banned Irish33, or whatever his name was, because he lied about being close to the team...but had good info, provided by someone he actually knows, close to the team?


WTF? Who cares!! If he's got some good info, why ban him?


(I'm assuming that he wasn't just spitting lies when it came to his substance)

 

[IrishLion]

I thought IrishFan33 was pretty shady.

1. You shouldn't be sharing all of that "inside info" if it's your job to work with various programs and scout.

2. He came off as a tool with the way he talked about his "relationships" with various players.

3. A professional scout should probably have more substance when making a comparison than "Holley = Stockton."

 

[Whiskeyjack]

So we banned Irish33, or whatever his name was, because he lied about being close to the team...but had good info, provided by someone he actually knows, close to the team?

WTF? Who cares!! If he's got some good info, why ban him?

(I'm assuming that he wasn't just spitting lies when it came to his substance)

According to some very reliable sources, he has a "connection" to a single player on the team, but he lied about being a professional talent scout, and lots of other stuff. He's been wrong about a lot of stuff too, which, in retrospect, makes sense since he was apparently making most of it up.

We banned him because he was pretending to an insider status he doesn't have, and people were giving his comments undeserved weight.

 

[NDohio]

In the absence of italics or any sort of context, it was a single sentence that assumed an arguably harmful racial stereotype. Whether or not that qualifies as "racist" is besides the point, because several people found it offensive and reported it as such.



LAX banned you immediately, but consulted with the rest of the mods afterward, and everyone agreed that a week off was appropriate given your past infractions and the tenor of the board following the Pitt loss. We don't ban people lightly, and we usually seek out consensus among the mods before doing anything.

The moderating interface that's most convenient for us to use has a field for inputting "Ban Expiration", but regardless of what we put there, it seems to be defaulting to "Never". There's a less convenient interface that apparently doesn't have this problem, which we will be using in the future.



Go check his post history. He was drunk and posting like a confrontational as$hole during and after the Pitt game. Two separate mods independently and simultaneously attempted to give him 24 hours off. As far as I know, he's free to return at this point.



We almost always do. In your case, your week off was affirmed by the mods online immediately after it was imposed.

Drinking and game day threads do not go together!

 

[irishpat183]

According to some very reliable sources, he has a "connection" to a single player on the team, but he lied about being a professional talent scout, and lots of other stuff. He's been wrong about a lot of stuff too, which, in retrospect, makes sense since he was apparently making most of it up.

We banned him because he was pretending to an insider status he doesn't have, and people were giving his comments undeserved weight.

Fair enough. I was just wondering as people, at the time, were really into his stuff and it seemed more a personal issue.

 

[irishpat183]

Drinking and game day threads do not go together!

I wouldn't know anything about that.......


PITT game last year almost got me banned for life. LOL. What is it about the Panthers??

 

[Ironman8]

Fair enough. I was just wondering as people, at the time, were really into his stuff and it seemed more a personal issue.

There in lies the issue, and why he had to be banned. If he has a reputation as an actual insider with legit info as a ND source and a talent scout, and he is not actually what he seems, inaccurate posts by him will be taken as gospel. Obviously that would cause major (unneeded) issues.

 

[irishog77]

According to some very reliable sources, he has a "connection" to a single player on the team, but he lied about being a professional talent scout, and lots of other stuff. He's been wrong about a lot of stuff too, which, in retrospect, makes sense since he was apparently making most of it up.

We banned him because he was pretending to an insider status he doesn't have, and people were giving his comments undeserved weight.

Did Jason fly you out to North Carolina to investigate him? Did you sit in your '89 Caprice Classic tailing him all day? What kind of booze did you put in your flask for your plaid blazer? Did the hookers Lax got for you at your pay-by-the-hour motel enjoy the magic fingers? How much of the $1,500 Irish33 tried to bribe you with, in order not to tell Jason, do you have left?

 

[ThePiombino]

There in lies the issue, and why he had to be banned. If he has a reputation as an actual insider with legit info as a ND source and a talent scout, and he is not actually what he seems, inaccurate posts by him will be taken as gospel. Obviously that would cause major (unneeded) issues.

God knows we don't need any assistance in that department lmao

 

[ACamp1900]

As a reg. on this board for years now and former mod I think we should all be very grateful that every little bannable slight isn’t taken for its full worth… if that were the case very few, including myself, would make it past a year or so… we all have bad moments… for the most part the mods do a great job.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Did Jason fly you out to North Carolina to investigate him? Did you sit in your '89 Caprice Classic tailing him all day? What kind of booze did you put in your flask for your plaid blazer? Did the hookers Lax got for you at your pay-by-the-hour motel enjoy the magic fingers? How much of the $1,500 Irish33 tried to bribe you with, in order not to tell Jason, do you have left?

"You'd really dig my work."

All credit for the investigation goes to LAX and TP.

 

[Grahambo]

"You'd really dig my work."

All credit for the investigation goes to LAX and TP.

 

[GATTACA!]

Yeah, but who can? .

Thanks for the explanation. But when it's not an apparent infraction (I get that everyone used discretion differently, but a real obvious post I'm saying) I wish that there would be a chance for explanation from the OP.

I did not enjoy my week off. I tried to talk ND with my ONE friend who claims to be an Irish fan, but he didn't even know who our backup QB was, SMH.

^ Kuehnja oh his break lol. Welcome back, I missed your posts.

 

[koonja]

^ Kuehnja oh his break lol. Welcome back, I missed your posts.

I've been laughing for a couple minutes straight. That picture sums my week up lol.

 

[GBdomer]

Who's irish fan33?