Theo Riddick or Cierre Wood?

[irishpat183]

doesn't Toma average a Touchdown for every Run he has had this season?

Mind blown.

 

[polishjuice4]

Sure...YPC tells you who the better back is.

And if Cierre didn't have that big run against OU, you wouldn't even have an argument.

Riddick leads in Yards, rushing TD's, and carries.....You tell me who's better.

I'm supposed to take the "eye test" of IE members over Brian Kelly....Sure fellas.

What about Riddick's 55 yard run. I said running back and Wood is a better running back, Riddick is more versatile.

 

[irishpat183]

What about Riddick's 55 yard run. I said running back and Wood is a better running back, Riddick is more versatile.

So you're telling me that a guy with less carries, less yards, and less TD's is better than Riddick this year?


Please explain. And I don't want any theories...facts.

IE members scouting reports, although smart guys, don't mean anything.

 

[NYMIKE6]

IE members scouting reports, although smart guys, don't mean anything.

This sounds like you are not apart of IE brotherhood to me. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[irishpat183]

This sounds like you are not apart of IE brotherhood to me. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

LOL.....

 

[irishff1014]

So you're telling me that a guy with less carries, less yards, and less TD's is better than Riddick this year?


Please explain. And I don't want any theories...facts.

IE members scouting reports, although smart guys, don't mean anything.

Well first off Wood missed one game. (Even though it was his own fault). since then it seems Kellys man is Riddick. IMO

 

[irishpat183]

Well first off Wood missed one game. (Even though it was his own fault). since then it seems Kellys man is Riddick. IMO

Don't you think if Kelly thought Wood was a better back (and gave us a better chance to win)....he'd be in the game?

Unless of course, you question BK's judgment......

 

[NYMIKE6]

The real experts are HERE.... if you go back through all the threads (like the media and coaching staff does) we predicted everything first. It's like mind control on DEBO.

He be like 'Shut the fu(k up' I be quiet, but when he leave, I be talking again....

 

[irishff1014]

Don't you think if Kelly thought Wood was a better back (and gave us a better chance to win)....he'd be in the game?

Unless of course, you question BK's judgment......

I never said anything about questioning his judgement.

 

[irishpat183]

I never said anything about questioning his judgement.

So you agree that Riddick is the better back?

 

[ab2cmiller]

I believe many here think that Cierre might be the better runner, but Theo's pass catching ability makes him a better all purpose back.

 

[koonja]

I believe many here think that Cierre might be the better runner, but Theo's pass catching ability makes him a better all purpose back.

Applause for this gentlemen here.

If you had to pick ONE back to finish the season and one to sit, it'd have to be Theo (that you keep).

 

[irishff1014]

So you agree that Riddick is the better back?

IMO No

 

[koonja]

IMO No

So you think Cierre is better, and you trust BK's judgement, then why, in your opinion, is Theo not only the starter, but getting the bulk of the work and our 4th quarter 'guy'.

That's what IrishPat is getting at.

This is a non-sense argument. In all reality it's great that we have both. I just think Theo doesn't get the credit he deserves. It's tough to lead the team in rushing AND be a primary receiver.

 

[irishff1014]

I do agree that Theo is better at caycing the ball out of the back field but should be since he did practice as a WR. Wood blocks better in pass protection and is a stronger strighter forward runner. The break away run Riddick had that he got cuaght from behind that doesn't happen to wood. And as i said before wood is still good enough to more carries but he has dug his grave with Kelly and it is not repairable.

 

[koonja]

I do agree that Theo is better at caycing the ball out of the back field but should be since he did practice as a WR. Wood blocks better in pass protection and is a stronger strighter forward runner. The break away run Riddick had that he got cuaght from behind that doesn't happen to wood. And as i said before wood is still good enough to more carries but he has dug his grave with Kelly and it is not repairable.

He blocks better, sure. But Theo is more of an asset on passing plays. Where Cierre stays in to block, Theo provides someone that the defense has to defend. Theo's pass catching > Cierre's blocking.

Rarely are great backs 'break away' guys. Being a great RB is more about quick cuts than homerun speed.

He served his time. The 'he's in the dog house' argument doesn't work. Theo's simply more productive in Kelly's eyes. Is Tommy in the dog house too? Is that why he's the back-up? No. How about Calabrese?

 

[ACamp1900]

I disagree... No matter who you prefer, the fact that Wood only gets five plus carries a game tells me there is a lot more going on than a talent battle... Riddick or no Riddick, Wood is better than that...

 

[koonja]

I disagree... No matter who you prefer, the fact that Wood only gets five plus carries a game tells me there is a lot more going on than a talent battle... Riddick or no Riddick, Wood is better than that...

Let's entertain the idea that Kelly doesn't think Theo is that much better, but it's simply because, while in a national title run, BK has a problem with a RB (Cierre) because of character issues so prevalent that he won't run him. That absolutely factors into Theo > Cierre if Cierre has some teammate or attitude issues, or whatever you guys think is going on.

 

[irishff1014]

He blocks better, sure. But Theo is more of an asset on passing plays. Where Cierre stays in to block, Theo provides someone that the defense has to defend. Theo's pass catching > Cierre's blocking.

Rarely are great backs 'break away' guys. Being a great RB is more about quick cuts than homerun speed.

He served his time. The 'he's in the dog house' argument doesn't work. Theo's simply more productive in Kelly's eyes. Is Tommy in the dog house too? Is that why he's the back-up? No. How about Calabrese?

Thats your opinion and i respect that. But like Acamp pointed out Wood Should be getting more carries then roughly 5 a game.

 

[koonja]

Thats your opinion and i respect that. But like Acamp pointed out Wood Should be getting more carries then roughly 5 a game.

Then you are directly questioning BKs judgement, which you just denied.

For the record, I think Cierre is great and agree that he should be getting more carries. I'd just MUCH rather have Theo if we had to have only one.

 

[ACamp1900]

Let me ask you this... Do you think Wood is ten to fifteen carries a game worse than Riddick??

 

[irishff1014]

If thats how you see then ok. But i disagree.

 

[koonja]

Let me ask you this... Do you think Wood is ten to fifteen carries a game worse than Riddick??

No.

 

[ACamp1900]

No.

Then something else is at play..... Right?

All I'm saying.

 

[Crimson streak]

Wood is averaging 6.3 yards a carry compared to theo's 4.6. Theo has 144 more yards despite getting 63 more carries than wood. Wood is the better back and I still don't get why they don't get split carries. Wood usually finds the right hole and breaks arms tackles at his legs while theo usually goes down after contact. Honestly wood gives us the best chance of winning and he has been proven for 2 years now.

 

[koonja]

Then something else is at play..... Right?

All I'm saying.

Agree that there's a reason he's getting so few carries. He should get more, he's a really good RB. But whether it's productivity or attitude, there's a reason BK isn't running him. If they both got 15 a game I'd love it. But it wouldn't change my opinion unless Cierre absolutely tore it up. Theo's extremely versatile and has ran so hard this year. Reminds me of Armando Allen.

 

[irishff1014]

Sure...YPC tells you who the better back is.

And if Cierre didn't have that big run against OU, you wouldn't even have an argument.

Riddick leads in Yards, rushing TD's, and carries.....You tell me who's better.

I'm supposed to take the "eye test" of IE members over Brian Kelly....Sure fellas.

IT obvious if you look at the stats thaat if Wood had that carries Riddick had he would most likely have more yards then him. If Wood hadn't of fumbled they would have the same amount of touchdowns.

Let me make it clear i like Wood and Riddick but IMO Wood is the better back if you disagree thats fines,

 

[koonja]

Wood is averaging 6.3 yards a carry compared to theo's 4.6. Theo has 144 more yards despite getting 63 more carries than wood. Wood is the better back and I still don't get why they don't get split carries. Wood usually finds the right hole and breaks arms tackles at his legs while theo usually goes down after contact. Honestly wood gives us the best chance of winning and he has been proven for 2 years now.

This has been discussed at nauseam.

Better YPC DOES NOT mean you're a better back. By that logic, GAIII > Theo/Cierre. Is that the case? No. And how are you factoring in 25 receptions for Theo compared to Cierre's 2? You're not.

 

[ACamp1900]

Agree that there's a reason he's getting so few carries. He should get more, he's a really good RB. But whether it's productivity or attitude, there's a reason BK isn't running him

Agreed, and I believe the reason is prob the later, just my opinion...

 

[koonja]

Ben Tate (back up) is averaging more yards per carry than Adrian Foster. Who's better?

It's common for backups to average better YPC. They get less carries, are more fresh, and the defense doesn't focus on them as much.

I would like to reiterate that I love Cierre. We're better for having him. But if I had to choose one to play against USC and in the bowl game, we need Theo more than we need Cierre, imo.