AP Top 25 (ND #11)

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The AP Top 25 Poll | NCAA College Football

1) Alabama
2) Ohio State
3) Clemson
4) Penn State
5) Oklahoma
6) USC
7) Washington
8) Michigan
9) Wisconsin
10) Florida State
11) Oklahoma State
12) LSU
13) Auburn
14) Stanford
15) Georgia
16) Miami
17) Louisville
18) Virginia Tech
19) Kansas State
20) Washington State
21) South Florida
22) Florida
23) TCU
24) Notre Dame
25) Tennessee
 
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Good to see, although it's show me week. One way it could matter if we win, is how much we move up.

Much easier to justify moving a team way up in the rankings if they were ranked coming in, rather than shooting them up the rankings from 'unranked'. This might give us a 2-3 spot bump if we beat Georgia, rather than if we beat Georgia unranked.
 

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Good to see, although it's show me week. One way it could matter if we win, is how much we move up.

Much easier to justify moving a team way up in the rankings if they were ranked coming in, rather than shooting them up the rankings from 'unranked'. This might give us a 2-3 spot bump if we beat Georgia, rather than if we beat Georgia unranked.

I think we get to #15 with a win.
 

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This is just to benefit the media selling it as a "top 25 matchup in prime time"
 

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The power of the SEC. Pendulum swings both ways...

More realistic: We move up one spot and Georgia moves down to one above us. Justification: Well the Irish did win, but did so at home against a Frosh making his first start. Just not as much of a quality win as could have been.
 
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Man even I'd be mad if that happened. That's a huge jump.

If we beat Georgia, unless it's on a whim or dumb luck, we're a ~15th ranked team.

It's early in the year - rankings shift drastically the first few weeks. If this happened week 9 it'd be weird. Not in week 2.
 

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If we beat Georgia, unless it's on a whim or dumb luck, we're a ~15th ranked team.

It's early in the year - rankings shift drastically the first few weeks. If this happened week 9 it'd be weird. Not in week 2.

#13 and #14 are road underdogs this week as well which helps.
 

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I think our ranking is about right for us. No doubt a little has to do with the media and this week's match up with Georgia . If we beat Georgia I honestly don't see us being 15, but more in the 18, 19, 20 range. Rankings this early don't mean much to me but it is nice getting the year off to a positive start.
 

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Such bullshit. At this point in the season, half the teams are 1-0 and half the teams are 0-1. There is zero reason why any 0-1 team should be ranked. Let them earn their way back in with actual victories.

Edit to expand on the above: What the ranking tells us is that losing to Alabama is more valuable than whupping on Temple or Tulsa or BYU. It's complete nonsense. If, in theory, Notre Dame and Florida State were to play the exact same schedule from here on out and win by the same margins of victory, FSU would end the season at 11-1 and ranked ahead of 12-0 ND.
 
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No one should be ranked until after week 4, but everyone loves a ranking so this is how it is.
 

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No one should be ranked until after week 4, but everyone loves a ranking so this is how it is.
I'm okay with everything except the preseason poll. The poll applies to the 2017 football season and shouldn't contain information from outside that season.
 

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Agree with Lax. The current ranking is window dressing to help trump up a big intersectional night game. I doubt anyone who votes is too worried about where to put ND if they win.

Hopefully we give them all a nice big shit burger to eat come Sunday morning:

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I'm okay with everything except the preseason poll. The poll applies to the 2017 football season and shouldn't contain information from outside that season.

It is a way for the journalists, recruiting analyst, sports networks, etc... to exert their influence on the season and the game itself. It bolsters their role and legitimizes their desire to be close (fanboy) to the game. Then, sometimes it represents a consensus of their opinions. In best of all worlds, if trying to be fair, first poll would come out after week 4. $.02
 

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It is a way for the journalists, recruiting analyst, sports networks, etc... to exert their influence on the season and the game itself. It bolsters their role and legitimizes their desire to be close (fanboy) to the game. Then, sometimes it represents a consensus of their opinions. In best of all worlds, if trying to be fair, first poll would come out after week 4. $.02



I'd like to think the bigger reason is it's a way for them to justify having jobs. It's definitely effective though. Preseason and early polls are meaningless, but they get clicks and people talking.
 

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I'd like to think the bigger reason is it's a way for them to justify having jobs. It's definitely effective though. Preseason and early polls are meaningless, but they get clicks and people talking.

Haha. Yeah that too!
 

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I saw a lot of crappy football played this weekend by some teams on this list. Just keep winning and the polls take care of themselves.
 

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No one should be ranked until after week 4, but everyone loves a ranking so this is how it is.

I would rank this comment in the bottom third of all Koon comments.

#17,655
 

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I'll take a ranked team everyday and twice on Sunday.

This team has to believe to be special.

Let's go fellas.
 
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