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I can't remember, how long has it been since I said, "Fuck Michigan!"?
 

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I guess scUM's bball coach is just as shitty of a person as their football coach.

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/michi...recht-s-transfer-options-224019956-ncaab.html

Yet even though Albrecht will have a degree, and even though he has been told there is no scholarship for him at Michigan, the school still has restricted his future choices. He has not been released to attend another Big Ten school. And the conference is backing this with its legislation.

“There are 334 other schools he can go to,” Beilein told Yahoo Sports on Wednesday, almost getting the math right on 351 minus the other 13 Big Ten members. “He has a lot of choices.”

But he does not have unlimited choice. Not without sitting out a year. That’s a Big Ten rule, and Michigan will enforce it with Albrecht – just as it did last year with grad transfer Max Bielfeldt.
 

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See, that's bullshit. If you're not going to let him back... effectively ending his career at your school because you don't think he is good enough... that is total BS to restrict his transfer anywhere. Shameful. Would be a completely different story if he had the option to return to the team.
 

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I guess scUM's bball coach is just as shitty of a person as their football coach.

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/michi...recht-s-transfer-options-224019956-ncaab.html

First, the story is incorrect. Bielfeldt did not sit a year going in conference to IU for his grad year. Spike wouldn't get any takers from the B1G teams with his hip injury history anyways. He's already checked into Valpo though I don't know if they will take him or not. I hope they do if he's healthy enough.

Secondly, Kelly tells potential 5th years to beat it every year... he's not a douche. Spike graduated, his time there is done. But he'll get a free year of education somewhere else just like Matt Hegerty did. Win win for everyone. He and his family sat with Beilein and they are cool with it. He got a Liberal A&S bachelors from Michigan, he can slide into any number of masters programs with that.
 

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First, the story is incorrect. Bielfeldt did not sit a year going in conference to IU for his grad year. Spike wouldn't get any takers from the B1G teams with his hip injury history anyways. He's already checked into Valpo though I don't know if they will take him or not. I hope they do if he's healthy enough.

Secondly, Kelly tells potential 5th years to beat it every year... he's not a douche. Spike graduated, his time there is done. But he'll get a free year of education somewhere else just like Matt Hegerty did. Win win for everyone. He and his family sat with Beilein and they are cool with it. He got a Liberal A&S bachelors from Michigan, he can slide into any number of masters programs with that.

When has BK told a kid that wasn't doing their 5th year at Notre Dame, that they would be restricted on what school they go to? It's never happened, not one single time.

I don't get what point you're making here.
 

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When has BK told a kid that wasn't doing their 5th year at Notre Dame, that they would be restricted on what school they go to? It's never happened, not one single time.

I don't get what point you're making here.

wasn't EG banned from transferring to Texas for his graduate year or am I remembering incorrectly?
 

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wasn't EG banned from transferring to Texas for his graduate year or am I remembering incorrectly?

He was...but he wasn't. I remember the details being sketchy. I want to say Jack said we didn't bar him from transferring anywhere, but they asked EG to provide a list of schools and they approved the ones he submitted or something. I'm guessing if he was serious about going to Texas and he asked, then he probably would have been blocked. Maybe he did ask, and as a PR move we quietly declined it for obvious reasons.

Here: Swarbrick denies blocking Golson’s transfer options as rumors swirl – Inside the Irish

So yeah, based on what Jack said we didn't deny Golson transferring anywhere he asked to go, so either Golson never was serious about Texas, or we squelched it behind closed doors.
 
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wasn't EG banned from transferring to Texas for his graduate year or am I remembering incorrectly?

He wasn't restricted, the idea was floated, but never actually done.

Furthermore, it was a very different scenario, as EG was welcome to return to Notre Dame. That is not the case here with Michigan. They are pushing him out and restricting where he can go.
 

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He wasn't restricted, the idea was floated, but never actually done.

Furthermore, it was a very different scenario, as EG was welcome to return to Notre Dame. That is not the case here with Michigan. They are pushing him out and restricting where he can go.

Excellent point. No comparison between Golson and Spike situation...and Golson transfer was still treated 100 times better.
 

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I don't feel bad for 5th years that aren't welcomed back. Scholarships are 4 year deals. 5th years got 4 years of free paid education and a free degree that would cost the average person hundreds of thousands of dollars. And most of the athletes that get admitted would never be able to get admitted if they weren't good at a sport. They don't have the grades to get in the vast majority of the time if they were just average joe high school student that just graduated and applied to college. The rules are bent for them from the jump just to get them admitted.

I don't like conferences banning in-conference transfers, but can you blame conferences or schools for doing that? Iowa was kind enough to let Rudock go wherever he wanted within the B1G, but they didn't have to do that.
 

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I don't feel bad for 5th years that aren't welcomed back. Scholarships are 4 year deals. 5th years got 4 years of free paid education and a free degree that would cost the average person hundreds of thousands of dollars. And most of the athletes that get admitted would never be able to get admitted if they weren't good at a sport. They don't have the grades to get in the vast majority of the time if they were just average joe high school student that just graduated and applied to college. The rules are bent for them from the jump just to get them admitted.

I don't like conferences banning in-conference transfers, but can you blame conferences or schools for doing that? Iowa was kind enough to let Rudock go wherever he wanted within the B1G, but they didn't have to do that.

If they are not welcomed back, why restrict them? Afterall, they fulfilled the 4 year agreement just like the school did. Why should they still have control of the student athlete at that point?
 

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I found it interesting that Spike Albrecht is graduating from Michigan with the ever impressive "General Studies" degree.
 

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I found it interesting that Spike Albrecht is graduating from Michigan with the ever impressive "General Studies" degree.

i didn't realize you could graduate w/ a general studies degree? i thought u could only be in general studies for 2 years and then needed to pick a major? been out of college for too long
 

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I found it interesting that Spike Albrecht is graduating from Michigan with the ever impressive "General Studies" degree.

i didn't realize you could graduate w/ a general studies degree? i thought u could only be in general studies for 2 years and then needed to pick a major? been out of college for too long

Spike's gonna be a Social Studies teacher/coach I'd guess.

What is the Bachelor in General Studies degree?

The Bachelor in General Studies is an interdisciplinary degree which allows a student to combine subject areas and skills in a way that focuses intellectual development through a lens of interdisciplinarity.
In 1968, the faculty of the College of Literature, Science, and the Arts voted to create the Bachelor in General Studies (BGS) degree. This degree remains an option for students with interdisciplinary or alternate academic interests, allowing them to pursue their interests in an individually designed degree program independent of departmental requirements.

The Bachelor in General Studies is an interdisciplinary degree which allows a student to combine subject areas and skills in a way that focuses intellectual development through a lens of interdisciplinarity. It requires a minimum of 120 credits and an overall grade point average (gpa) of 2.0. Within these 120 credits, students must fulfill specific requirements.

There is abundant evidence during the past thirty years that indicates acceptance of the degree. Employers and graduate schools give equal consideration to BGS students who meet the specific requirements of a graduate or professional school, who perform at a high level, and who select coherent undergraduate courses. Graduate and professional schools and employers are far more concerned with the courses selected and a student's performance than with a degree label.
 

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I don't feel bad for 5th years that aren't welcomed back. Scholarships are 4 year deals. 5th years got 4 years of free paid education and a free degree that would cost the average person hundreds of thousands of dollars. And most of the athletes that get admitted would never be able to get admitted if they weren't good at a sport. They don't have the grades to get in the vast majority of the time if they were just average joe high school student that just graduated and applied to college. The rules are bent for them from the jump just to get them admitted.

I don't like conferences banning in-conference transfers, but can you blame conferences or schools for doing that? Iowa was kind enough to let Rudock go wherever he wanted within the B1G, but they didn't have to do that.

Yes.
 
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I do not have a problem with a 'general studies degree,' as long as it has discipline and content. The degree should be upper-hours oriented, and have a consistent theme. I knew a guy I went to school that made up his own degree with upper level psychology, sociology, economics, and political science classes. He did a custom internship, project kind of thing, (I don't remember details,) had he had a statistic course and some other math that totally intimidated me.

There is no comparison between a degree like that and what some schools allow athletes to cobble together.

And for the Michigan student-athlete in question, at least he got a degree. (But again, we don't know the details of the discipline.)

As far as Golson and Texas, from all I have heard, he was told Texas would be a problem because; A) Golson was a signal caller, and knew the offense pretty well, B) He initiated leaving, and had been encouraged by staff to stay, C) The timing made it impossible for the staff to deal with replacing him, and reconstructing the offense in any meaningful way, D) Everett had the most interest in SEC schools from the beginning, and E) Charlie Strong's integrity gets left out every time. Strong had already made it clear that because of the situation, and the fact he felt like he needed to grow a quarterback of the future, out of his existing pool, he wasn't interested.

The germane point is whether a school invites a player back, or shuts him out. It should be an NCAA rule that if you shut a player out, you do not control where he goes.

If you want to automatically, across the NCAA ban a kid from transferring to any in conference, major rivalry, or conference school with division, or geographic proximity, that should be an NCAA members vote. (Not a dickhead move on the part of a douche-clown Athletic Director.)
 

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O'Maury Samuels from New Mexico just committed. Big pickup, much bigger than Dillon.
 
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