2018 College Football Playoff

[Legacy]

Conference champions who play twelve FBS teams in the regular season, as we do, should be considered in the conversation. Those teams would be Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State and Northwestern.

 

[notredomer23]

If we get #4, the writing is on the wall. The committee will be showing it's an uphill climb for ND to make the playoffs without a conference championship (which is crazy).

Nope. Our schedule happened to be soft this year. On paper it wasn't or should have been.

But '19 features @UGA, @UM, and @Stanford
'20 features Clemson, Wisconsin, @SC, Stanford,
'21 @FSU, @VT, Wisconsin, USC, @Stanford
'22 @OSU, Clemson, in addition to all the others

Point being, I think this is more of an exception rather than the rule to us being #3 and undefeated.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

tOSU will be playing Northwestern and even if they obliterate them, that's two good games and like 5-6 bad ones. Their defense is suspect.

Same with Oklahoma. In no universe should a 12-0 ND team that beat 4 current top 25 teams, be ranked any lower than 3 in the CFP.

If we get #4, the writing is on the wall. The committee will be showing it's an uphill climb for ND to make the playoffs without a conference championship (which is crazy).

The only proglem witht h four current top 25 teams is that arguement is going to waste because Pitt just got steamrolled by Miami, who just dismissed their top WR a few days ago. We still have UM, Syracuse, and NW. Maybe Stanford (7-4, plays Cal next week) can pick up the slack?

 

[wizards8507]

Nope. Our schedule happened to be soft this year. On paper it wasn't or should have been.

But '19 features @UGA, @UM, and @Stanford
'20 features Clemson, Wisconsin, @SC, Stanford,
'21 @FSU, @VT, Wisconsin, USC, @Stanford
'22 @OSU, Clemson, in addition to all the others

Point being, I think this is more of an exception rather than the rule to us being #3 and undefeated.

Right, which is why it's important not just to win, but to win convincingly. You get some leeway on a schedule that proves light if you beat everyone by 30.

 

[pumpdog20]

Why is everyone so concerned about the conference championship thing?

The playoff committee has already set precedence that you don't need to a conference champion, or even play in the game to make the playoffs.

 

[IrishLax]

It’d be impossible for us to get jumped by Oklahoma unless there is insane bias. They gave up 40 to Kansas, and have played nothing but nail biters for awhile now because their defense is GARBAGE. Anyone who puts them in on “eye test” is a crook.

 

[ickythump1225]

Oklahoma isn't getting in. If OK and OSU both win out (assuming BAMA beats UGA) OSU is getting in. I don't care how good your offense is, if your defense is FCS level you aren't a good, complete team.

 

[BeatSC]

Ohio State and Ok have garbage D’s and oak offense ia awesome and Ohio States is stoppable. Michigan and Harbaugh choked like the undeserving bitches they are. Our D despite not looking their best yesterday gave up 2 TDS to a USC rival on their field where they had one loss in 3 years. Both Ohi State and Ok should have at least one more loss each to teams with .500 records or less. Helton was coaching for his job etc.

Desmond can put his tail between his legs for another year. I also can’t think despite Urbans attempts for sympathy that many still don’t see him as a duplicitous douchebag.

Put it down in ink. ND #3 and should be ready for a conventional offense in Clemson.

 

[bkess8]

Only way we aren't #3 is if Clemson and Bama lose their conference championship games!

 

[TheSunIsRising]

Several comments about Oklahoma being a short travel to Dallas for the semi-final. IF OU were in the playoffs at 4, their game would be in Miami. I don't think the committee would have OU play a de facto home game against the 1 seed.

 

[stlnd01]

Several comments about Oklahoma being a short travel to Dallas for the semi-final. IF OU were in the playoffs at 4, their game would be in Miami. I don't think the committee would have OU play a de facto home game against the 1 seed.

I can't imagine OU's proximity to Dallas would make any difference regardless. The games are on a holiday weekend Saturday, in easy-to-get-to cities. All four (five) teams in the mix are big-time blue-chip programs with huge fan bases. People will come.

 

[TheSunIsRising]

I can't imagine OU's proximity to Dallas would make any difference regardless. The games are on a holiday weekend Saturday, in easy-to-get-to cities. All four (five) teams in the mix are big-time blue-chip programs with huge fan bases. People will come.

The committee does take location into account, so that the #1 seed is not playing in a road environment. If Texas were to have made the playoff as the #4, you can pretty much guarantee that a #1 Bama would not be expected to play them in Dallas

 

[NDdomer2]

I thought the rule was #1 seed plays at the closest location to their school. Nothing about their opponent

 

[BobbyMac]

UGA beats Bama
Clemson beats Pitt
OSU destroys NW
OU beats UT

Who's in and what's the seeding?

 

[ACamp1900]

Informal poll:

UGA beats Bama
Clemson beats Pitt
OSU destroys NW
OU beats UT

Who's in and what's the seeding?

Clemson
ND
OSU
OU

Enough with Bama getting gifted championship spots without winning their conference.

 

[TheSunIsRising]

I thought the rule was #1 seed plays at the closest location to their school. Nothing about their opponent

I don't know if it is a hard and fast rule, as much an intent to ensure that the #1 seed is not playing in pretty much a road game. We might see what happens if Bama beats UGA, and OU hold off OSU to be ranked #4. I am actually not positive on this, but recall that I had seen something on the Athletic awhile back that indicated that the locations might be different for Bama at #1 and Clemson at #2, based on who the opponents are. I will see if I can find this, but it is not an easy search.

Unfortunately the history does not have a good example on how this would be handled; closest is last year where Clemson play Bama in New Orleans, but the alternative was the Rose Bowl.

 

[BobbyMac]

Clemson
ND
OSU
OU

Enough with Bama getting gifted championship spots without winning their conference.

Recalculate. UGA has 1 loss.

 

[IrishLion]

UGA beats Bama
Clemson beats Pitt
OSU destroys NW
OU beats UT

Who's in and what's the seeding?

1. Clemson/UGA
2. UGA/Clemson
3. ND
4. Ohio State

I think they’d put UGA vs ND based on last year’s matchup, but Clemson vs ND in Miami would be a huge draw, too. They would seed UGA and Clemson into the top two, and the order would depend on which bowl sponsor starts making the best promises for the matchup they want.

 

[EddytoNow]

If Alabama beats Georgia and Clemson, OSU, and OU all win it's:

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Oklahoma

If Georgia beats Alabama and Clemson, OSU, and OU win it's:

1. Clemson
2. Georgia
3. Notre Dame
4. Oklahoma

Ohio State doesn't deserve to be in the play-offs unless they are the only Power 5 1-loss team remaining, which means Oklahoma must lose, Georgia must lose, and UCF must lose. How can you ignore that OSU lost to Purdue and nearly got beaten by Maryland, Penn State, etc.? An unbeaten UCF should make the play-offs before this year's OSU team.

 

[irishtrain]

I don't care what happens from here on out-these guys deserve and tremendous ovation for playing a conference championship game EVERY week.

 

[TheSunIsRising]

Several comments about Oklahoma being a short travel to Dallas for the semi-final. IF OU were in the playoffs at 4, their game would be in Miami. I don't think the committee would have OU play a de facto home game against the 1 seed.

I can't imagine OU's proximity to Dallas would make any difference regardless. The games are on a holiday weekend Saturday, in easy-to-get-to cities. All four (five) teams in the mix are big-time blue-chip programs with huge fan bases. People will come.

I thought the rule was #1 seed plays at the closest location to their school. Nothing about their opponent

I don't know if it is a hard and fast rule, as much an intent to ensure that the #1 seed is not playing in pretty much a road game. We might see what happens if Bama beats UGA, and OU hold off OSU to be ranked #4. I am actually not positive on this, but recall that I had seen something on the Athletic awhile back that indicated that the locations might be different for Bama at #1 and Clemson at #2, based on who the opponents are. I will see if I can find this, but it is not an easy search.

Unfortunately the history does not have a good example on how this would be handled; closest is last year where Clemson play Bama in New Orleans, but the alternative was the Rose Bowl.

Did not have to bother searching

In this morning's Bowl Projections by Mandel on The Athletic, he has changed the location of where Bama would play to reflect Miami, as he is projecting the Sooners to #4 currently. He comments on the fact the committee may find it is unfair for the #1 seed to have to play the #4 seed so close to the #4 campus. Not locked-in as a rule, but the implication is that committee has discretion to find the semi-final location that is the most favorable to the #1 seed

 

[ACamp1900]

Recalculate. UGA has 1 loss.

fuck them too... lol

 

[Dizzyphil]

Predicted bowls for Jan 1 - OU/GA only one I would watch


<table class="table"><tbody><tr class="even"><td>Jan. 1</td> <td>Outback Bowl</td> <td>Iowa vs. LSU</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td>Jan. 1</td> <td>Citrus Bowl</td> <td>Syracuse vs. Kentucky</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td>Jan. 1</td> <td>PlayStation Fiesta Bowl</td> <td>UCF vs. Washington State</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td>Jan. 1</td> <td>Rose Bowl Game</td> <td>Michigan vs. Washington</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td>Jan. 1</td> <td>Allstate Sugar Bowl</td> <td>Oklahoma vs. Georgia</td></tr></tbody></table>

 

[RuntheBall]

Predicted bowls for Jan 1 - OU/GA only one I would watch


<table class="table"><tbody><tr class="even"><td>Jan. 1</td> <td>Outback Bowl</td> <td>Iowa vs. LSU</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td>Jan. 1</td> <td>Citrus Bowl</td> <td>Syracuse vs. Kentucky</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td>Jan. 1</td> <td>PlayStation Fiesta Bowl</td> <td>UCF vs. Washington State</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td>Jan. 1</td> <td>Rose Bowl Game</td> <td>Michigan vs. Washington</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td>Jan. 1</td> <td>Allstate Sugar Bowl</td> <td>Oklahoma vs. Georgia</td></tr></tbody></table>

UM-Washington would be interesting to me.

But Syracuse-Kentucky doesn't quite offer a lot of intrigue unless its basketball.

If OU makes the playoff over OSU, subbing in OSU for Iowa and WVU/Texas for OU improves things a bit.

 

[irish4ever]

They would not want Bama and Georgia to play again right away. It would be 1. Clemson 2.UGA 3.ND 4.Bama so they could possibly have an all SEC NCG.

My thoughts also.

 

[irish4ever]

UM-Washington would be interesting to me.

But Syracuse-Kentucky doesn't quite offer a lot of intrigue unless its basketball.

If OU makes the playoff over OSU, subbing in OSU for Iowa and WVU/Texas for OU improves things a bit.

Wouldn't O$U go to the Rose Bowl over scUM? They would be the higher BIG Ten team.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Predicted bowls for Jan 1 - OU/GA only one I would watch


<table class="table"><tbody><tr class="even"><td>Jan. 1</td> <td>Outback Bowl</td> <td>Iowa vs. LSU</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td>Jan. 1</td> <td>Citrus Bowl</td> <td>Syracuse vs. Kentucky</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td>Jan. 1</td> <td>PlayStation Fiesta Bowl</td> <td>UCF vs. Washington State</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"> <td>Jan. 1</td> <td>Rose Bowl Game</td> <td>Michigan vs. Washington</td> </tr> <tr class="even"> <td>Jan. 1</td> <td>Allstate Sugar Bowl</td> <td>Oklahoma vs. Georgia</td></tr></tbody></table>

I'm in camp: it's college football, I'm watching it regardless.

But, I see quality in scUM/UW (not sure hwy you wouldn't watch it that's a decent match up imo)and OU/UGA, and intrigue in UCF/Wazzu, even without Milton.

Iowa/LSU would be hard to watch. 'Cuse and Kentucky is like a battle of this years' fools-gold

 

[ACamp1900]

Rose Bowl would be a good game.. OU/UGA was fun last year, I doubt it would happen but would love to see OU get revenge. Could the Citrus Bowl people be in any more of a panic mode??? Fiesta Bowl would be fun.

 

[WaveDomer]

IMHO, the only potential movement for ND from #3 is moving up to #2 or #1. ND should not get jumped.

 

[Irish#1]

IMHO, the only potential movement for ND from #3 is moving up to #2 or #1. ND should not get jumped.

You are correct. ND will not get jumped regardless of what happens this weekend. Teams with a loss do not equal an undefeated team with a marquee name and program. This isn't UCF we're talking about.