'17 OH DT Jerron Cage (Ohio State Verbal)

[stlnd01]

History would suggest we should take every quality DL/DE recruit who will have us. Between injuries and washouts we never have enough of them who can actually play on Saturdays.

 

[Henges24]

Seriously. Does the staff not think he is good enough to play at ND? As its already been said, we don't have enough DTs as it is. He isn't Pete M or Brandon Tiassum yet we took them.

Who are we even in a race for if we aren't taking Cage?

 

[BobbyMac]

Seriously. Does the staff not think he is good enough to play at ND? As its already been said, we don't have enough DTs as it is. He isn't Pete M or Brandon Tiassum yet we took them.

Who are we even in a race for if we aren't taking Cage?

Donovan Jeter.

If GB has heard correctly, maybe he's not a take until Jeter makes up his mind and they definitely will only take 3 DT's unless a longterm injury or someone leaves for whatever reason before NSD next Feb.

I'd bet the house if Jeter wasn't in the picture and Cage said I'm coming, he'd be an instant take. They aren't close with anyone else in '17 at this point..

 

[stlnd01]

Donovan Jeter.

If GB has heard correctly, maybe he's not a take until Jeter makes up his mind and they definitely will only take 3 DT's unless a longterm injury or someone leaves for whatever reason before NSD next Feb.

I'd bet the house if Jeter wasn't in the picture and Cage said I'm coming, he'd be an instant take. They aren't close with anyone else in '17 at this point..

Aren't there some "fit" concerns with Jeter? Certainly seemed to be on his thread awhile back.
Makes zero sense to me to slow play a top-ten DL recruit while we wait on a guy who, even if he commits, would still have fit issues that could crop up at any time. Especially when that top DL has a brother on the team and would be a flip from Ohio State. Worst case: We land both of them. Oh no! It's not like we're going to use all 85 scholarships anyway.

 

[BobbyMac]

Aren't there some "fit" concerns with Jeter? Certainly seemed to be on his thread awhile back.
Makes zero sense to me to slow play a top-ten DL recruit while we wait on a guy who, even if he commits, would still have fit issues that could crop up at any time. Especially when that top DL has a brother on the team and would be a flip from Ohio State. Worst case: We land both of them. Oh no! It's not like we're going to use all 85 scholarships anyway.

That's what the guys in his thread thought. I read his Twitter feed, he definitely has a porous filter. I have no idea if the staff has a problem with him(?) There was a public, group effort to recruit him by the WPa guys, that doesn't happen without the staffs' direction one would think.

I say take them both too... if that's an option. Wouldn't surprise me if one more current DT left for whatever reason.

 

[ND NYC]

That's what the guys in his thread thought. I read his Twitter feed, he definitely has a porous filter. I have no idea if the staff has a problem with him(?) There was a public, group effort to recruit him by the WPa guys, that doesn't happen without the staffs' direction one would think.

I say take them both too... if that's an option. Wouldn't surprise me if one more current DT left for whatever reason.

what does the bolded mean?

 

[BobbyMac]

what does the bolded mean?

It wouldn't surprise me if one more current DT on ND's roster left before graduating.

That's not a prediction, I don't have a source, it just wouldn't surprise me is all.

 

[ulukinatme]

At this point I don't think we should turn away talented DL, unless it's between them and a Safety....can Jerron play Safety?!

 

[stlnd01]

It wouldn't surprise me if one more current DT on ND's roster left before graduating.

Tillery to LSU. He gone.

 

[Big23Head]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2017 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OhioState?src=hash">#OhioState</a> commit Jerron Cage will visit <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> this weekend. ($) <a href="https://t.co/XtVwwz781E">https://t.co/XtVwwz781E</a> <a href="https://t.co/wpbCx0tjkT">pic.twitter.com/wpbCx0tjkT</a></p>— Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/773495187507118080">September 7, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[PANDFAN]

I don't have isd however all paid sites have said that he will visit several times but its due to his brother....247 said we wouldnt even push if we did until very late

 

[BobbyMac]

Back on campus for the MSU game per 247 timeline.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

I've been so impressed with his brothers play this year. Daniel after playing 4 years for ND, I think could be a 3rd round pick.

 

[irishff1014]

Per TV/Loy IF ND pushes hard for him that he will flip.

 

[Irish Man3]

I've been so impressed with his brothers play this year. Daniel after playing 4 years for ND, I think could be a 3rd round pick.

Agree on his brothers play. He has played so well in the middle of that line.

 

[stlnd01]

Still baffled why we don't just go take this kid. Seems like he's ours if we want him.

 

[GBdomer]

Still baffled why we don't just go take this kid. Seems like he's ours if we want him.

space, why take a kid we could get in Jan.

 

[ndcoltsfan2010]

Still baffled why we don't just go take this kid. Seems like he's ours if we want him.

I'd welcome in a second!!!

 

[ThePiombino]

I don't get why we wouldn't take this kid if he's interested. Is he not a take for any other reason other than football related reasons? With our history of poor DL play and inability to maintain 85 schollies, why the f**k wouldn't we take him?

 

[BobbyMac]

I don't get why we wouldn't take this kid if he's interested. Is he not a take for any other reason other than football related reasons? With our history of poor DL play and inability to maintain 85 schollies, why the f**k wouldn't we take him?

Exactly. If he's good enough in Jan, he's good enough now and I take him AND Jeter. He's a Top 10 DT. I don't pass that up and he get's extra legacy points too.

Seriously, if it comes down to him or OLB Wilder from FL or a filler safety or another WDE reach, they better chose Cage pt. deaux

 

[GBdomer]

Exactly. If he's good enough in Jan, he's good enough now and I take him AND Jeter. He's a Top 10 DT. I don't pass that up and he get's extra legacy points too.

Seriously, if it comes down to him or OLB Wilder from FL or a filler safety or another WDE reach, they better chose Cage pt. deaux

Wilder is a much better prospect than Cage. I think the staff wants to see Cage senior film and go from there.

 

[BobbyMac]

Wilder is a much better prospect than Cage. I think the staff wants to see Cage senior film and go from there.

I'm not gonna say I don't like Wilder's film because I really like it but if I agree with you I'm going against the entire industry. Normally I'd look at the offer list for verification but I don't think anybody is messing with him because he's committed to OSU and his brother starts at ND. I wouldn't waste a stamp on him if I'm an assistant at any other school.

One thing that does bother me about Wilder is the lack of an FSU offer.

 

[ThePiombino]

Wilder is a much better prospect than Cage. I think the staff wants to see Cage senior film and go from there.

Ugh, I mean I get that, but seriously - when is the last time we started a season close to 85 schollies? Isn't this Cage a better prospect than his brother was at this stage in high school? I'd say that turned out pretty well so far.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Ugh, I mean I get that, but seriously - when is the last time we started a season close to 85 schollies? Isn't this Cage a better prospect than his brother was at this stage in high school? I'd say that turned out pretty well so far.

True, but I thought he wasn't so much looking at ND until recently, and that's only because Urban is recruiting over the kid. So it's a process for Jerron and the staff.

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[NDinL.A.]

I've been so impressed with his brothers play this year. Daniel after playing 4 years for ND, I think could be a 3rd round pick.

The truth about the Jones family and ND is, they had been unhappy with ND for a couple of reasons (that were more on Michael than the ND staff). This spring, the lightbulb came on for him and this year he has been playing a lot and playing really well. I saw his parents after the game in the tunnel as they were waiting for the players to come out, and they seemed MUCH happier than the last time I saw them.

Michael's turnaround at ND, fueling IMHO his parents' turnaround on their feelings about ND, which I would venture to say has fueled Jerron's turnaround on HIS feelings at ND. I'd also venture to say that Ohio State isn't exactly upset with Jerron looking around, as they have bigger fish to fry and are more than ready to move on from Jerron.

I'm not in the camp of taking a kid you don't truly want. For every Luke Kuchkley (sp), there are 100 John Turners and other never-was's across the country. But if Jerron can help this team (I'm no expert), then I'd take him. But don't take him just to get another body in there, IMHO, when in your heart you don't believe he will ever contribute. That accomplishes nothing but creating a headache later down the road (unhappy kid who isn't playing, unhappy parents creating problems that coaches don't have time to deal with that type of crap).

 

[NDShark]

The truth about the Jones family and ND is, they had been unhappy with ND for a couple of reasons (that were more on Michael than the ND staff). This spring, the lightbulb came on for him and this year he has been playing a lot and playing really well. I saw his parents after the game in the tunnel as they were waiting for the players to come out, and they seemed MUCH happier than the last time I saw them.

Michael's turnaround at ND, fueling IMHO his parents' turnaround on their feelings about ND, which I would venture to say has fueled Jerron's turnaround on HIS feelings at ND. I'd also venture to say that Ohio State isn't exactly upset with Jerron looking around, as they have bigger fish to fry and are more than ready to move on from Jerron.

I'm not in the camp of taking a kid you don't truly want. For every Luke Kuchkley (sp), there are 100 John Turners and other never-was's across the country. But if Jerron can help this team (I'm no expert), then I'd take him. But don't take him just to get another body in there, IMHO, when in your heart you don't believe he will ever contribute. That accomplishes nothing but creating a headache later down the road (unhappy kid who isn't playing, unhappy parents creating problems that coaches don't have time to deal with that type of crap).

Daniel?

 

[Luckylucci]

The truth about the Jones family and ND is, they had been unhappy with ND for a couple of reasons (that were more on Michael than the ND staff). This spring, the lightbulb came on for him and this year he has been playing a lot and playing really well. I saw his parents after the game in the tunnel as they were waiting for the players to come out, and they seemed MUCH happier than the last time I saw them.

Michael's turnaround at ND, fueling IMHO his parents' turnaround on their feelings about ND, which I would venture to say has fueled Jerron's turnaround on HIS feelings at ND. I'd also venture to say that Ohio State isn't exactly upset with Jerron looking around, as they have bigger fish to fry and are more than ready to move on from Jerron.

I'm not in the camp of taking a kid you don't truly want. For every Luke Kuchkley (sp), there are 100 John Turners and other never-was's across the country. But if Jerron can help this team (I'm no expert), then I'd take him. But don't take him just to get another body in there, IMHO, when in your heart you don't believe he will ever contribute. That accomplishes nothing but creating a headache later down the road (unhappy kid who isn't playing, unhappy parents creating problems that coaches don't have time to deal with that type of crap).

I'm assuming you meant Daniel Cage. No biggie, just didn't want folks to jump in with misinterpretations.

 

[Rizzophil]

Seems to me That Nd would take Jeter right now but not necessarily Jerron

 

[ACamp1900]

Hi,

I'm ACamp and I have ND recruiting and game day ptsd. I would like to state that when ND has had a very good chance at top ten positional players but decided to hold out on taking a verbal and such because they have their eyes on even bigger fish,... it usually ends with ND getting commitments from neither. My doctor has informed me that the logical thing to do would be to accept any top ten positional player (especially from the front seven) when you can get them, all the times... He also points out that ND never fills a full feckin roster anyway so to quote, 'what the fvking fvk!?!"

I can have him sign for this if it helps our staff get their head out of their asses...

Sincerely,

ACamp

 

[ResLife Hero]

Seems to me That Nd would take Jeter right now but not necessarily Jerron

Is Jeter even a DT now? He's down to about 250 and was talking about how he didn't carry 300 well. I'd take Jeter at SDE and Cage at DT.