'16 CA QB Ian Book (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

[ulukinatme]

So was out and about yesterday and just catching up... this was a fun read... yesh...

That was the boat I was in. "Oh hey, an Ian Book update. Maybe it's a discussion about his Heisman candidacy....what....the....furk."

 

[ACamp1900]

That was the boat I was in. "Oh hey, an Ian Book update. Maybe it's a discussion about his Heisman candidacy....what....the....furk."

Now I'm totally expecting something to ultimately come out... because, We Are, ND.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Now I'm totally expecting something to ultimately come out... because, We Are, ND.

Book is fine, Twitter is now saying Dex, Tillery, and Tranquil are in hot water for running an underground cockfighting ring.


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[NorthDakota]

Book is fine, Twitter is now saying Dex, Tillery, and Tranquil are in hot water for running an underground cockfighting ring.


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In college me and some friends considered starting an underground betafish fighting ring but decided the risk outweighed the rewards.

 

[Free Manera]

Book is fine, Twitter is now saying Dex, Tillery, and Tranquil are in hot water for running an underground cockfighting ring.


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Hearing Clark Lea was involved and Van Gorder was just seen at O'Hare combing his mustache with a blue and gold comb.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Funny how things change in a month. September 1st ---- Book can run the offense better but ND cannot contend for the playoffs with him.


October 8th --- Holy shit if hes out our playoff hopes are done.

I already ate crow several times on this one, but you basically quoted me word for word at one point in August/September in the bold.

He is damn impressive. Even when he looked a little shaky in the 2nd quarter Saturday night, he responded very well, and it wasn't entirely his fault since they weren't respecting the running game until Dex broke on in the 3rd.

 

[Wild Bill]

I already ate crow several times on this one, but you basically quoted me word for word at one point in August/September in the bold.

He is damn impressive. Even when he looked a little shaky in the 2nd quarter Saturday night, he responded very well, and it wasn't entirely his fault since they weren't respecting the running game until Dex broke on in the 3rd.

You're not alone.

 

[arrowryan]

I come with positive news so please don't shoot. I might be wrong, but I don't recall Wimbsuh ever audibling out of a play. Look at Ian doing it in his 4th career start and on the road against a ranked team

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great check by Book here switching to a run away from the overload to the field side where the Irish had the numbers advantage <a href="https://t.co/3Xj93KhxKV">pic.twitter.com/3Xj93KhxKV</a></p>— Jamie Uyeyama (@jamieuyeyama) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamieuyeyama/status/1050084853150965760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Irish YJ]

So refreshing.

I don't think he's close to peaking. He'll get better at the long ball, and he'll get better at reading and making audibles.

 

[ACamp1900]

I come with positive news so please don't shoot. I might be wrong, but I don't recall Wimbsuh ever audibling out of a play...

 

[ulukinatme]

So refreshing.

I don't think he's close to peaking. He'll get better at the long ball, and he'll get better at reading and making audibles.

I hope he doesn't try to do too much, or Kelly doesn't open the playbook up like he has in the past. Every time they try to load a QB up with more responsibility it ends up leading to turnovers or meltdowns. Our QBs always look best when we keep it simple and don't ask them to be the whole offense. Fortunately with Dexter involved I don't think that will be the case.

 

[Irish YJ]

I hope he doesn't try to do too much, or Kelly doesn't open the playbook up like he has in the past. Every time they try to load a QB up with more responsibility it ends up leading to turnovers or meltdowns. Our QBs always look best when we keep it simple and don't ask them to be the whole offense. Fortunately with Dexter involved I don't think that will be the case.

I think Book will be different. And I think we've seen a little more each week. Last week was the long ball...

There's a difference when you open up a playbook to a QB who is already quick and accurate, vs a QB who struggles with basic reads and basic accuracy. This game, and Navy are great opportunities to open up a little more at a time. I'd bet we see a little more playbook each week, and zero regression by the time we travel to NW.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Ian Book "gets" QBing.

If there's no oddball setback (like injuries or whack), Ian Book will play in the NFL. There's "presence", "ice", spontaneity with a bag of tricks.

God Bless You Coach for doing the really hard (replacement) thing.

 

[fightingirish26]

Ian Book "gets" QBing.

If there's no oddball setback (like injuries or whack), Ian Book will play in the NFL. There's "presence", "ice", spontaneity with a bag of tricks.

God Bless You Coach for doing the really hard (replacement) thing.

He's also 6 feet tall and might not be able to throw the deep ball. I love Book too, but he doesn't scream NFL qb to me. Which is fine, he can still win a ton of games at ND with his skill set.

 

[SoIll]

Ian Book "gets" QBing.

If there's no oddball setback (like injuries or whack), Ian Book will play in the NFL. There's "presence", "ice", spontaneity with a bag of tricks.

God Bless You Coach for doing the really hard (replacement) thing.

sorry, but no

 

[snoopdog]

He doesn’t throw the deep ball well, “yet”.

I think Book will improve in this area over the next season and a half.

If he stays healthy there is no reason why Book can’t be the next Brees.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Let's be honest guys. A good multi year starter for ND will get his chance in the NFL. Will he be a starter? Who's to say. But he'll get his chance at backup minimum, and backup QBs make a good living.

 

[nsisk157]

Let's be honest guys. A good multi year starter for ND will get his chance in the NFL. Will he be a starter? Who's to say. But he'll get his chance at backup minimum, and backup QBs make a good living.

Jim Sorgi agrees. Just north of 5 mil on career earnings in 7 seasons. Never started a game. Others that come to mind are Matt Flynn and Charlie Whitehurst who had some nice signing bonuses.

 

[SoIll]

Jim Sorgi agrees. Just north of 5 mil on career earnings in 7 seasons. Never started a game. Others that come to mind are Matt Flynn and Charlie Whitehurst who had some nice signing bonuses.

If we're talking about backups making bank.. You cannot leave out the OG Chase Daniels. He's made over 30 million

 

[GowerND11]

Jim Sorgi agrees. Just north of 5 mil on career earnings in 7 seasons. Never started a game. Others that come to mind are Matt Flynn and Charlie Whitehurst who had some nice signing bonuses.

If we're talking about backups making bank.. You cannot leave out the OG Chase Daniels. He's made over 30 million

Koy Detmer, Matt Schaub for most of his career (still doing it too), Scott Tolzien

 

[beryirish]

I come with positive news so please don't shoot. I might be wrong, but I don't recall Wimbsuh ever audibling out of a play. Look at Ian doing it in his 4th career start and on the road against a ranked team

Probably because he thought he could always just run.

 

[DONTH8]

Ian Book "gets" QBing.

If there's no oddball setback (like injuries or whack), Ian Book will play in the NFL. There's "presence", "ice", spontaneity with a bag of tricks.

God Bless You Coach for doing the really hard (replacement) thing.

Reminds me of a (maybe even lesser) Kellen Moore. Great College QB distributing the ball with accuracy, but not an NFL guy. I agree with everyone above, maybe as a back-up, but I doubt he'll ever run the show.

 

[Irish#1]

He's also 6 feet tall and might not be able to throw the deep ball. I love Book too, but he doesn't scream NFL qb to me. Which is fine, he can still win a ton of games at ND with his skill set.

sorry, but no

Drew Brees says hello. Barely recruited out of HS. He was labeled as too short with a weak arm.

BTW............After the temporary crisis caused by Barstool Chief, then seeing this thread pop up, I'm going to get an electrocardiogram. There should be a moratorium on posting in this thread until the season os over.

 

[IrishLion]

Tommy Rees got a shot with some practice squads, and he had a noodle arm.

Book has a stronger arm, and offers significantly more upside based on improvisational ability. He's gonna get a shot if he exhausts his eligibility as ND's starter.

The question is if Phil J can catch up in terms of knowledge and decision-making and dethrone Book before Book's a 5th-year senior.

 

[Irish YJ]

Tommy Rees got a shot with some practice squads, and he had a noodle arm.

Book has a stronger arm, and offers significantly more upside based on improvisational ability. He's gonna get a shot if he exhausts his eligibility as ND's starter.

The question is if Phil J can catch up in terms of knowledge and decision-making and dethrone Book before Book's a 5th-year senior.

With our woes prior to Book, I couldn't wait for the thought of PJ next year. At this point, it's easily to imagine Book starting for the following two years. Unless Book just starts laying eggs, or somehow in incapable of improving, it's hard to imagine BK yanking Book for anyone so long as Book has eligibility. PJ wold still have two years left after Book's 5th so long as he doesn't go over 4 games this year.

What was once questionable QB play and depth, could be embarrassingly strong the next 4 years.

And if Book's production maintains, he'll get a shot at Sundays. Not saying he'll be Breezy, but he'll make some money.

 

[arrowryan]

With our woes prior to Book, I couldn't wait for the thought of PJ next year. At this point, it's easily to imagine Book starting for the following two years. Unless Book just starts laying eggs, or somehow in incapable of improving, it's hard to imagine BK yanking Book for anyone so long as Book has eligibility. PJ wold still have two years left after Book's 5th so long as he doesn't go over 4 games this year.

What was once questionable QB play and depth, could be embarrassingly strong the next 4 years.

And if Book's production maintains, he'll get a shot at Sundays. Not saying he'll be Breezy, but he'll make some money.

I'm gonna hold off with all that. For whatever reason, Brian Kelly's QBs at Notre Dame are notorious for taking a nose dive in their second season as the starter.

 

[Irish YJ]

I'm gonna hold off with all that. For whatever reason, Brian Kelly's QBs at Notre Dame are notorious for taking a nose dive in their second season as the starter.

I'm normally pretty cautious, and I'm not saying Book will stay at 70+%...

But..
-When is the last time a ND QB beat two top 25 teams (one on the road) over three games and had an average of 70+%? Went back to the Quinn and Clausen years, they didn't.
-Let's say Book does level out. Do you think he drops below 65%. He'd still be only second to Clausen (68%) in 2009 and be on par with Reesus in 2011. I'd take 65%...

Like OMM said, I think Book gets "QBing". IMO, guys that are quick and highly accurate don't just become slow and/or inaccurate without something happening like an injury or mental break. Sure it could happen, but I think it's improbable.

I'd put most of my Vbucs down saying Book finishes this year 67% or better. And if he maintains 65% with control of the O, and moves the ball effectively, it's very hard to replace someone like that... And we know BK hangs on too long (he's got better this year).

 

[Old Man Mike]

It doesn't phase me that folks are skeptical. I see a QB in the mold of many other QBs I've watched in my decades who is just a Player. IceMan and Riverboat Gunslinger. He has only been on this job less than a handful of games, and he's already showing me the extra spice and jazz of a Man in Command and having a fine ol' time flummoxing the opposition --- both underhand shovels were hints of that sort of Aaron-Rodgerish thing. (no, I'm not saying he's Rodgers --- no one is.)

My feeling (OK possibly a romantic dream and wrong) is that Book is going to be so "right" with the quarterback position that by next season our OC is dreaming up trick plays, speed offenses with audibles, and Ian is generally scaring the He!l out of every one of our opponents. He just might be so right that ND is better even with our personnel losses. One deadly QB cures a LOT of "sins." (as we have often seen with our lesser opponents.)

Although I don't think that he'll accelerate all the way to that status with just this year to work with (give the guy a little time and some slack), I think his stats will be phenomenal, the team "attitude" will be skyhigh, the coaching staff will allow more "fun", and next year --- preseason talk of really big honors possibilities.

 

[Irish#1]

It doesn't phase me that folks are skeptical. I see a QB in the mold of many other QBs I've watched in my decades who is just a Player. IceMan and Riverboat Gunslinger. He has only been on this job less than a handful of games, and he's already showing me the extra spice and jazz of a Man in Command and having a fine ol' time flummoxing the opposition --- both underhand shovels were hints of that sort of Aaron-Rodgerish thing. (no, I'm not saying he's Rodgers --- no one is.)

My feeling (OK possibly a romantic dream and wrong) is that Book is going to be so "right" with the quarterback position that by next season our OC is dreaming up trick plays, speed offenses with audibles, and Ian is generally scaring the He!l out of every one of our opponents. He just might be so right that ND is better even with our personnel losses. One deadly QB cures a LOT of "sins." (as we have often seen with our lesser opponents.)

Although I don't think that he'll accelerate all the way to that status with just this year to work with (give the guy a little time and some slack), I think his stats will be phenomenal, the team "attitude" will be skyhigh, the coaching staff will allow more "fun", and next year --- preseason talk of really big honors possibilities.

Yeah, there was that kid named Joe who was third or fourth string. Small, no arm. Didn't he make an NFL team? lol

 

[ab2cmiller]

Great article from the Bowling Green Daily News with lots of direct quotes from Sanford talking about what he saw in Book as a recruit etc etc.
https://www.bgdailynews.com/sports/wku/sanford-following-qb-book-s-success-at-notre-dame/article_8248a070-fc77-5053-a98e-5cbe6c9d26eb.html

Ian Book wasn’t a blue-chip quarterback prospect when Mike Sanford first learned of him.

Sanford was Boise State’s offensive coordinator in 2014 when program staffer Taylor Tharp showed him the Class of 2016 QB’s film. At that point, Book’s college offers were from Idaho and FCS program San Diego.

“I watched the kid’s film and I saw everything you need from a skillset standpoint,” Sanford said Thursday.

Fast forward four years and Sanford is coaching Western Kentucky while Book is Notre Dame’s starting quarterback.

Book and the sixth-ranked Fighting Irish (5-0) will play at No. 24 Virginia Tech (3-1) at 7 p.m. CDT Saturday. Sanford’s Hilltoppers (1-4 overall, 0-1 Conference USA) are off this week before playing at Charlotte (2-3, 1-1) on Oct. 13.

Sanford was Book’s primary recruiter at Boise State, where he committed during the 2014 season. Sanford left the following offseason to become Notre Dame’s offensive coordinator, and Book flipped his commitment to Washington State.

Even with Book pledged to the Cougars, Sanford stayed in touch with the three-star prospect from El Dorado Hills, Calif.

“I told him that, ‘Hey, I’ve got to go out and evaluate a bunch of heavily recruited, five-star guys, but don’t be surprised if we give you a phone call down the road,’ ” Sanford said. “That’s exactly how it played out and he ended up committing to Notre Dame and the rest is history.”

Book signed with the Fighting Irish in 2016 and served as the team’s fourth-string quarterback. Sanford coached Book and his fellow QBs until accepting the WKU coaching job that December.

As a sophomore in 2017, Book backed up Brandon Wimbush. He did so again the first three weeks of Notre Dame’s 2018 season before taking over as the team’s new starter.

Book has powered the Irish to wins the last two weeks over Wake Forest and previously unbeaten Stanford. He’s completed 74 percent of his passes for 616 yards with seven touchdowns and no interceptions.

Sanford has followed the 6-foot, 203-pound junior’s success from afar.

“The biggest thing I saw about Ian that I loved as a player in high school, even if he was 181 pounds soaking wet when we evaluated him, was his quick twitch as a passer, quick twitch as an athlete and honestly, a quick-twitch decision-maker,” Sanford said.

“Anymore, when you look across the landscape of college quarterbacks and even pro quarterbacks now – Baker Mayfield, Trace McSorley, Kyler Murray – the list goes on and on of guys that are quick-twitch athletes, quick-twitch decision-makers. Ian Book is playing exactly that way.”

Sanford said he’s still close to the former starter Wimbush, who was also in his position group at Notre Dame. He called the senior Wimbush a “phenomenal talent” and said the Irish have “a wealth of riches at the quarterback position.”