'10 IL QB Tommy Rees (Notre Dame Man)

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I noticed something else today. As smooth as the WR's routes were, Tommy had no decision making problems and seemed to see the field well. Damned if his hips weren't parallel to the line of scrimmage!

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tommy looks good slinging the rock. but, im not prescribing or subscribing to "tommy the runner" based on 1 run, not in full pads, and in a red jersey.

tommy can be come back kid. but, i dont see him starting all year.
 

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Tommy Rees player comparison: Ben Roethlisberger (on the field at least)

... ideally

Tommy's got a long way to go before I'll buy that comparison. Roethlisberger has gotta be among the strongest-playing QBs ever. He not only has a cannon arm, with the ability to get the ball to its destination in a hurry, whether on deep, mid-range or short passes, but he completes downfield passes with tacklers literally hanging on him, when a weaker man would have already collapsed under their weight. If Tommy can do all that this year, you can color me surprised.
 

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That's all part and parcel of running uptempo though. If they can do it successfully in practice, there's no reason why the coaching staff can't pull it off in a real game.

I would argue that of course they can do it successfully in practice as they can literally script out a certain set of plays to run, regardless of success/situation, because the entire environment is controlled. Even if receivers drop three straight passes, the coaches still move the ball up to simulate the no-huddle drive. They can't do this in a game.

I know that coaches script various play sheets and map out entire drives for games, but that only works in certain situations such as opening drive, before half, after half, or end-of-game. And even then, there's a chance of things not going to plan, such as the above dropped passes, or Tommy takes a sack, or a RB is tackled for loss. Suddenly the coaches have to get away from their script. These are the situations where, in my opinion, the coaches take too long at times with getting the play in. I understand they aren't perfect, and obviously need time to think things over, but it still seems that unneeded delays occur.

But again, maybe I'm stuck on just a few instances where this happened and blowing things out of proportion in my mind.
 

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Oh God.....there are people on here drinking the "it won't be that bad with Tommy in" Kool-aid.....

Who doesn't look good without a live D coming at you?


LOL. Getcha popcorn ready! You guys are insane. LOL
 

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the Coaches give signals to the Red Army who signal the play to the QB is just really dumb and slow to me. BK and company have gotta speed that up in some way
 

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the Coaches give signals to the Red Army who signal the play to the QB is just really dumb and slow to me. BK and company have gotta speed that up in some way

I totally agree. Pointless.

Unless it's to make sure the "red army" knows their signals as well.
 
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Oh God.....there are people on here drinking the "it won't be that bad with Tommy in" Kool-aid.....

Who doesn't look good without a live D coming at you?


LOL. Getcha popcorn ready! You guys are insane. LOL

Yup, and it's the reason we will miss Golson badly this season. He isn't the fastest QB, but he is so elusive. Just watch the 2012 highlights again. So many plays made off his quick footwork, especially when a play breaks down.

I won't ever slam Tommy, as I have always thought he's done the best that he can with what he's got, but this offense will need to be ultra efficient to be successful. It's resting mostly on the shoulders of the OLINE. That crew is going to need to step up tremendously. It can't be the same oline from last year.
 
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funny thing i actually think Tommy's best throws come on quick drops, so its not so much about what the Oline can do its more on the receivers and their ability to be shifty and get open quickly especially on slants and drag routes
 

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Oh God.....there are people on here drinking the "it won't be that bad with Tommy in" Kool-aid.....

Who doesn't look good without a live D coming at you?

LOL. Getcha popcorn ready! You guys are insane. LOL

"The starting QB looks good" is a typical fall camp platitude that every fan base hears. I don't think many of us are optimistic about Tommy primarily due to those reports.

I'm cautiously optimistic because (1) uptempo playcalling and (2) improved technique on designed rollouts would go a long way toward fixing Rees' deficiencies. We've gotten some reliable reports that both of those things are happening, so... TIFWIW.
 
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"The starting QB looks good" is a typical spring camp platitude that every fan base hears. I don't think many of us are optimistic about Tommy primarily due to those reports.

I'm cautiously optimistic because (1) uptempo playcalling and (2) improved technique on designed rollouts would go a long way toward fixing Rees' deficiencies. We've gotten some reliable reports that both of those things are happening, so... TIFWIW.

I can dig that.

I just think that Golson gives us so much more, and Rees doesn't really have any room for error as he doesn't have the skill set.
 

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I can dig that.

I just think that Golson gives us so much more, and Rees doesn't really have any room for error as he doesn't have the skill set.

and the irishpat-hayseed prediction is complete.

Please turn in my Tommy for Heisman vote, please. This is a done deal.
 

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I can dig that.

I just think that Golson gives us so much more, and Rees doesn't really have any room for error as he doesn't have the skill set.

I agree that Golson gives us MUCH more, but I think a senior Tommy Rees is just a different animal than sophmore Rees. The difference between feshman, sophmore, and junior Jimmy Clausen was pretty dramatic, I expect a scaled-down version of that progress. While he can clean up some technical problems, the biggest difference is simply that he'll be stronger, more confident, more expereinces, less timid, and the clear leader of the team. A few kids look like grown men at 18. A lot more catch up by the time they are 21 or 22.

That run in practice was the perfect example. He didn't look fast, he just looked decisive.
 

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and the irishpat-hayseed prediction is complete.

Please turn in my Tommy for Heisman vote, please. This is a done deal.

I'll second that vote

I agree that Golson gives us MUCH more, but I think a senior Tommy Rees is just a different animal than sophmore Rees. The difference between feshman, sophmore, and junior Jimmy Clausen was pretty dramatic, I expect a scaled-down version of that progress. While he can clean up some technical problems, the biggest difference is simply that he'll be stronger, more confident, more expereinces, less timid, and the clear leader of the team. A few kids look like grown men at 18. A lot more catch up by the time they are 21 or 22.

That run in practice was the perfect example. He didn't look fast, he just looked decisive.

Well said. Completely agree

Last year we went 12-0 and went to the NC. Tommy was a big part of that. Yet he actually had his worst statistical year with completion percentage at 57.6 and worst statistical year with td/int ratio at 2/2. Also his rating was 124.1, lowest of his career also. He also was only sacked twice with 59 pass attempts.
Now Golsons numbers. His completion percentage was minimally better at 58.8 and a his td/int ratio was much better at 12/6. His rating was minimally better at 131. But he was sacked 15 times with 318 pass attempts.
Tommy is not Golson and you can see that when watching the games. But statistically Tommy was only worse in the td/int ration, and one can argue that may have changed if he played more and games from start to finish as opposed to being thrown in here and there. Tommy was actually sacked at a lower rate than Golson who is far more mobile. I think we will be perfectly fine this year with Rees. It would be reasonable for one to assume between another year of experience and maturing on the team and a full off season knowing you are the starter and preparing as such, that Rees will be better than last year and be able to lead this team to a great season. Undefeated maybe not, but a BCS bowl shouldn't be out of reach.
 

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Another thing about Tommy this year vs other years is he is the starter going into camp. Every other year, he was in a QB battle which is significant for two big reasons. First, it cut down on the number of reps he got with the 1st team, which hinders his command of the offense, timing, chemistry with his offensive teammates, etc. Second, the other QBs he had been battling with had different skillsets meaning the offense might not have been the best fit for him. This is the first time Tommy is definitely the guy and everything will be built around him.
 

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Per UHND.com, from the BK presser on friday, "Tommy Rees has been keeping plays alive that he has not been able to keep alive in the past. He has improved on throwing the fade in the corner as well after it being a weakness for him in the past."

not sure if this has been brought up but it sounds like good news...
 

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This is blasphemous and will curse us with bad luck this season.
 

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I actually have high expectations for Tommy this season. Of course I'd rather have Golson back there, and it's probably just the late-offseason koolaid kicking in, but I really think he's going to thrive at running and managing the offense.
 

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You know what. If 2011 Tommy had 2012's defense we would have beaten Michigan and USF that year. If 2011 Christ would have played like 2012 Tommy coming off the bench we could have beaten USC, given Stanford more of a game and beaten Flo-rida State that year too. If Tommy has improved significantly this team is going to destroy the better part of the teams on the schedule.
 
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