Will you allow/direct your children to play football?

Will you allow/direct your children to play football?

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  • No

    Votes: 17 34.7%

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Veritate Duce Progredi

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After having read a number of articles on CTE as well as listening to Malcolm Gladwell's podcast with an episode dedicated to CTE (at Penn Univ.), my concern is peaking.

I'm curious whether you'll allow your children to play football? If so, will you direct them to football or try to keep them away?

Anything else you care to share is appreciated.
 

NDRock

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I would not argue with any parent who won’t allow their kid to play football. My son played for a couple of years when he was 8 and 9. At that age they really don’t hit hard. He wants to play again next year when he gets to middle school. I will allow it. I think monitoring their health is important. Not sure how I’ll react if/when he gets a concussion.

On another note, here’s an interesting counterpoint to the CTE study that Gladwell talks about a lot. https://sports.yahoo.com/op-ed-one-...ing-launched-wave-cte-hysteria-150349666.html
 

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I have two boys - 8 and 4 - they're both pretty sportsy. The older one has played a couple seasons of flag football on Saturdays but is much more focused on soccer and hockey. That's fine by me.
If at some point either of them wants to play tackle football, I'm not going to prohibit it (their mom might). I played in high school, loved it, and escaped with my brain intact (shoulder injuries though). But I'm not going to encourage it either.
 
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I never had to make this decision as my son never had any desire to play football. At the time though I probably would have let him play(he is now 23). If I were making that decision today it would be much different. I think I would allow flag football up until middle school and then allow him to play full contact. I would monitor him very closely though.

My daughter was a soccer player and we had an agreement from the very beginning. If she gets a concussion she then has to start wearing a concussion band. If she gets a second concussion then she is done. As it worked out her first concussion was during her junior year in HS. She wore a concussion band through two more club seasons and her senior year in HS. Fortunately she never had that second concussion. IMO the concussion bands for soccer should be mandatory just like shin guards.
 

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I played football from the time I was 6 through junior yr of college when I had to stop due to concussions. I now have two boys, 2 years and 2.5 months. My wife and I talk about this often and she uses my situation as reason for her hesitation (which I completely get). But seeing how the game is evolving today, the advances made in just the safety of helmets, and the new rules designed to avoid the most frequent concussion plays (kickoffs and breaking the wedge), I feel confident that by the time my kids get to middle school/HS level that this will be a game that respects its roots while incorporating safety.

I loved football. I lived breathed and ate football. I am now a lawyer and I could honestly say I wouldnt be here had football not been a part of my life nor would I be a lawyer had concussions not played a role in having to give it up.
 

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I have 2 sons, age 8 & 17.

17: Enjoys sports occasionally but never had the desire to beat the other person, no sports killer instinct. He decided at age 16 he wanted to go out for football. He's 6'3" and a well built 200 lbs. He worked out all summer with the football team, went thru try outs, performed very well. They asked him to be the Varsity starting TE/WR. He handed back his helmet and said he wasn't interested as he thought it was fun, but never had that desire to beat the other man.

8: This kids is a sports fanatic. Almost all sports. And he's fairly food at all of them too. He's the exact opposite of the older one, he has a killer instinct to a fault sometimes. He desire to beat the guy in front of him sometimes exceeds his wider thought process of winning the game. He wants to play football, but we won't allow it. There's just to many risks involved.

I don't have any issue with anyone that allows their child to play, I still watch football and even go to the local HS games. For me there's just to much risk.
 

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Yes, I allow both my sons to play football. Until concussions or injuries become a problem, they will continue to do so if they want to.
 

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I'll probably nudge my boys if I have them into other sports. I'm all of 5' 9" and 165 pounds. Nothing to do with safety and all with wanting to put them in a position to succeed and have fun.
 

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No. My wife specializes in rehabilitating kids and adolescents after, among other things, concussions and brain trauma so she's seen the kids 3 or 4 concussions in and being forced to retire as well as 8 year olds who can't get quite right after their first one. Not going to judge parents who let their kids play; I was at a conference where Dr. Bennet Omalu pronounced youth football to be child abuse, and that's probably going way too far. However, the science showing how damaging concussions are is very real, and I'm not specifically focusing on CTE.

The way I look at it, I played baseball and basketball competitively through HS and got 1 concussion in my entire life. That required someone taking an extreme cheap shot on me during a blowout. The risks in those sports typically happen when someone egregiously messes up. You talk to folks who grew up with football in the mix or watch the games, and it's like concussions are just part of the game. For us, other sports and activities will be focused on growing up.
 

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No kids, nor any on the way or anything. But if possible, I'd steer them into baseball, unless football changes.
 

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I've had two pretty nasty concussions from my basketball days.

Falling upside down on hardwood is no bueno.

My answer, "idk". My wife though... (hope we have daughters)
 

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I had four boys play football and I coached for 13 years in our youth league. Kids at that level (especially the 8 & 9 year olds) don't hit that hard. I've not read or did any studies, but IMO concussions at that level are probably real real low.

I'm surprised that parents aren't more concerned about concussions from playing soccer. IIRC concussions are far more prevalent in soccer then FB.

Having said that, helmet technology has improved dramatically in the last few years. If I had youngsters today and given my experience I would let them play.
 

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Honestly, we probably won't allow our son to play any type of tackle football. We might become open to it in the high school age, but more than likely not. We assume he'll show interest in football and have honest conversations about concussions and brain trauma and go from there.
 

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I had four boys play football and I coached for 13 years in our youth league. Kids at that level (especially the 8 & 9 year olds) don't hit that hard. I've not read or did any studies, but IMO concussions at that level are probably real real low.

I'm surprised that parents aren't more concerned about concussions from playing soccer. IIRC concussions are far more prevalent in soccer then FB.

Having said that, helmet technology has improved dramatically in the last few years. If I had youngsters today and given my experience I would let them play.

The thing about those studies is that in soccer, when someone takes a shot to the head, it is almost always gets reported. In football, getting your bell rung is just part of the game and even though those head shots may result in a concussion they aren't reported.

I once heard Troy Polamalu say during an interview that he had hundreds of incidents that probably should have been reported as concussions but were not.
 

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Wouldn't let my kids play full-contact football until middle school at least. Since I don't have any yet, that means I've got at least 11-12 years of future study/research/equipment/updates to help me inform my decision at that time. Don't envy any parent who's making that call right now. I do think football is in trouble in the future. When you consider the money/brands elite basketball/baseball players have without as many health concerns, I don't understand why anyone who is an elite athlete would go with football over basketball/baseball.
 

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I'm surprised that parents aren't more concerned about concussions from playing soccer. IIRC concussions are far more prevalent in soccer then FB.
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Concussions in soccer are incredibly rare after the age of 12. Before that age, though, they are very prevalent, because heading the ball can be dangerous if not done properly and most don't have the proper technique. They are never severe concussions like football causes and almost always go unreported. I can recall in my high school days, as a centerback I used to head the ball off punts. Never affected me really, but I can imagine a 9 year old trying the same and messing up, hitting him on the wrong side of the head, and definitely getting concussed. If I had to guess, I bet a lot of these CTE cases developed from playing tackle football from too early of an age.

That is why US soccer has taken steps to banning headers under the age of 12.


In regards to would I let my son play football, absolutely. Concussions these days get proper treatment. If/when he ever had the max amount or a severe one, that is when he gets cut off.
 

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I had four boys play football and I coached for 13 years in our youth league. Kids at that level (especially the 8 & 9 year olds) don't hit that hard. I've not read or did any studies, but IMO concussions at that level are probably real real low.

I'm surprised that parents aren't more concerned about concussions from playing soccer. IIRC concussions are far more prevalent in soccer then FB.

Having said that, helmet technology has improved dramatically in the last few years. If I had youngsters today and given my experience I would let them play.

I cringe every time I see a header off some forty yard soccer boot. I believe girls soccer has the highest concussion rate in all HS sports. My daughter would probably be good at it as she is athletic and competitive but I really find the sport painfully boring AF so no motivation to put her near it.

My main reason for not putting my boys in football is that they just aren't that big or tough or fast or competitive - average undersized athlete getting steamrolled is not a recipe for fun. Just as concerned with conditioning in 90 degree heat as I am with injury.
 

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This might seem silly but to me it matters a lot where you live and what kind of football is played in your state and town. Connecticut Class S football is not even the same sport as Texas 6A. I played varsity football for four years and never even sniffed a college athlete, let alone FBS talent. Slow motion football is a lot less scary than the high level stuff.
 

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Concussions in soccer are incredibly rare after the age of 12. Before that age, though, they are very prevalent, because heading the ball can be dangerous if not done properly and most don't have the proper technique. They are never severe concussions like football causes and almost always go unreported. I can recall in my high school days, as a centerback I used to head the ball off punts. Never affected me really, but I can imagine a 9 year old trying the same and messing up, hitting him on the wrong side of the head, and definitely getting concussed. If I had to guess, I bet a lot of these CTE cases developed from playing tackle football from too early of an age.

That is why US soccer has taken steps to banning headers under the age of 12.


In regards to would I let my son play football, absolutely. Concussions these days get proper treatment. If/when he ever had the max amount or a severe one, that is when he gets cut off.

http://aaos-annualmeeting-presskit.org/2017/research-news/concussions_hsu/
 

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CTE is faker than ADHD and SIDS.

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From my experience in coaching both boys and girls in this boring AF sport, girls often don't head the ball properly.
In defense of soccer, youth soccer is only marginally more boring than grown ass adult soccer. Baseball has the steepest dropoff IMO. Youth baseball blows until they're old enough to throw strikes.
 

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Thanks for raising this issue. The Malcolm Gladwell podcast is worth a listen for those interested. It brought me to tears. So forgive this post:

I was at Penn with Owen Thomas, although I had already graduated and went off to law school at the time of his tragic suicide. I had lots of buddies on the football team. He was loved by all of them.

I also suffered several concussions during high school ball. They put an end to any dream I had of playing in college. I still deal with symptoms related to head trauma over a decade hence. I remember my teammates helping me to hide my issues from the coaches. I even went "Doctor shopping" until I found one that would clear me to play. Putting myself back in my 16-17 year old shoes, I can't imagine doing it any other way. Football was way too important to us. I was a captain. I wanted to lead.

My brother, however, was an all-conference linebacker in college (he always wore my number). He is now an assistant football coach at a high school in North Jersey. He fared better than I did in the concussion department but he's acutely aware of the impact--he was there each and every time I ended up in the hospital. He sees his role as bringing awareness of the issue to his team, and designing practices to limit hits to head as much as possible. I respect that. Although, I don't know I could do it.

All that is to say, I'm hugely conflicted. Every time my beloved Irish take the field, I think about head trauma. When Alize got hit by ScUM's Metellus, I got sick to my stomach. But coming from a large Catholic Northeast Pennsylvania family, ND football is often the one thing that brings us all together. So, I watch one team. I probably always will.

Just thought I'd share.
 
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From my experience in coaching both boys and girls in this boring AF sport, girls often don't head the ball properly.

My daughter's only concussion was from a head to head collision.

Thanks for admitting it is boring AF - I was only stating my personal opinion and preference though by prefacing with "I really find the sport".

Agree that baseball can be brutally boring but at least I feel like a 'Merican while I am bored.
 

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I'd allow it, but I don't think I'd push it like I thought I would in the past. I have no kids yet, and none in the near future, so that opinion could change.

I've never been diagnosed with a concussion, but knowing what I know now as a coach, having to take concussion courses and such, I've had a lot of them based on today's standards. Seeing stars, feeling a bit woozy, etc. are all now concussions, need to be reported, and the player needs to be taken out and checked.
 

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Gotta get kids in some kind of competitive sport. Too many soft kids now days being raised on video games.
 

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CTE is faker than ADHD and SIDS.

SIDS is real, but it's not actually "SIDS." It's "You did something that you probably shouldn't have, and it was a fatal and tragic mistake."

As for CTE and concussion issues, I'll let my kids play if they want.

My 2-year-old son watches football with me and yells "Go Irish" whenever he sees ND on TV, and he is constantly asking to toss football. I assume the interest will stay there, and he'll want to play some day. If not, he can do whatever interests him.

I expect that 30 years from now, studies would show that improved helmet technology, a heightened focus on avoiding head-to-head contact, and the care that concussed athletes receive will greatly reduce the instances of former football players experiencing issues with deteriorating mental health.

The game is already far safer than it was in the 70's, 80's and 90's, but people are still reacting to the issue as if guys are knocking themselves stupid on every play, so the problem is that football may have been irrevocably changed by the time people realize the game isn't the danger they think it is.
 

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All our kids played. One is currently Grade 10 in HS, one is in grade 8, one is 18 and done with sports (his choice no injuries) and my daughter played to.
I run our cities Minor football league. All of our coaches are required to take Concussion Awareness training. In our games the medics are the bosses. If the medic calls him unfit to play then he is out, period. I require all coaches to report injuries on an online tool so I have imperical data to give parents on the fence. Anyone with a reported concussion must have a Drs note for return to play.
Football is as safe as its ever been. But we have to be extra vigilant in regards to protecting our kids.

Here is also some food for thought:
https://sports.yahoo.com/op-ed-one-...SI3kSLjAy3Vl8kwOCuh7Dxgy-gC9nGjIJ9kM7jnDg0sY8
 
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