Why do you tweet recruits?

[OCIrish]

Lol, good call. I should probably get help .

Maybe!!!! Haha

 

[Domina Nostra]

I don't tweet recruits, but it seems like the kids love racking up followers. Is there a line between the two?

 

[NDdomer2]

you can follow without tweeting at them

 

[ACamp1900]

fun times.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

fun times.

Told you it wasn't me.

















But what an exciting life!

 

[ACamp1900]

I was referring to the thread itself... what a tire fire.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I was referring to the thread itself... what a tire fire.

So was I! Once a tire fire, always a tire fire. This thread turned out to be a cowdung filled tire fire; read page one!

 

[ShawneeIrish]

 

[ACamp1900]

Boggs (Grubl) told me to "F Off"....

 

[NDdomer2]

boggs=grubl?????

 

[ACamp1900]

boggs=grubl?????

It is known.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Mu-ha-ha, Mu-ha-ha!

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[NDIrishManiac]

Since this discussion has been moved to a more appropriate thread, I’m going to respond to your comments. Aside from name-calling, your points boil down to three main themes:

Creepiness: This disingenuous portrayal is designed to demonize the target. It plays upon the age of the recruits to imply that the target is something akin to a child molester. The truth of the matter is that the age of the recruits is immaterial. They would be treated exactly the same if they were 21, 25, or 35. What matters is that they are Notre Dame recruits, not their age.

If you’re a follower of recruiting, you should take this canard personally. They’re talking about you too. We both follow these young recruits. The difference is that instead of remaining in the shadows, I acknowledge my presence and publicly congratulate them on their accomplishments.

Motivation: Most people assume that I’m trying to convince the recruit to choose Notre Dame. This is not the case. I know my comments will have absolutely no impact on their decision. The reason I tweet to recruits is to let them know that Notre Dame fans would like them to attend the University. Do recruits really care how supportive the different college fan bases are? The answer to this question is obvious. I’m just a member of that larger fan base.

NCAA Violation: In my opinion, this is the only legitimate criticism of tweeting to recruits. If I believed it truly was a violation that could hurt the university, I wouldn’t do it.

I’ve read the NCAA rules in question. I acknowledge that tweeting to recruits could technically be considered an extremely minor violation under the very broadest interpretation. Realistically, even if it were interpreted as a violation, it would be one so small that no one would care. I’m not convinced it poses any risk whatsoever to the University.

Notre Dame did publish a video telling fans not to contact recruits. It was a wise move on the part of the University. If the NCAA should, for some reason, try to hold Notre Dame responsible for the actions of its fans, the University can demonstrate that it made efforts to prevent it. The video was a very cheap insurance policy. It may have worked too well. No other college football fan base is nearly as paranoid about this issue.

You may now return to your flogging.

 

[T Town Tommy]

You may now return to your flogging.

Why not just honor what the university asked from it' s fan base?

If you want attention this is probably not the best route to take.

 

[ShawneeIrish]

This will not be a popular opinion with many here but I commend NDIrishManiac for defending his position and not resorting to insults or running away without addressing the criticism of others. That said, I think tweeting recruits is generally a bad idea and when people do it obsessively it does become weird and creepy. I also think this can happen following recruiting generally when people start doing things like analyzing a recruits body with their shirt off or making comments like "it moved" when a recruit shows interest (I can't remember what poster does that a lot and do not mean that statement as a personal attack, I just think its a weird, inappropriate way of expressing excitement regarding a recruit). It is late and Im exhausted from studying so this is not my most coherent post but I guess what Im trying to get at is that some people are being a little too harsh with their hatred of NDIrishManiac and I give him credit for responding in a reasonable manner. I also think he should give up or at least ease up on the tweeting and the rest of us should probably examine our own behaviors about recruiting before getting high and mighty and rushing to bash others even if their behaviors may be more extreme or inappropriate.

 

[NDWorld247]

Creepiness:

If you’re a follower of recruiting, you should take this canard personally. They’re talking about you too. We both follow these young recruits. The difference is that instead of remaining in the shadows, I acknowledge my presence and publicly congratulate them on their accomplishments.

This is hardly the extent of what you do. Your engagement with recruits runs muuuuch deeper than simply publicly congratulating them on their accomplishments. I could post visual evidence if you care to disagree?

Motivation: Most people assume that I’m trying to convince the recruit to choose Notre Dame. This is not the case. I know my comments will have absolutely no impact on their decision. The reason I tweet to recruits is to let them know that Notre Dame fans would like them to attend the University. Do recruits really care how supportive the different college fan bases are? The answer to this question is obvious. I’m just a member of that larger fan base.

I'm not going to spend the time to psychoanalyze you based on your tweets, but my belief is there is much more to it than the bolded sentence above.

NCAA Violation:

What T Town Tommy said...

I also think this can happen following recruiting generally when people start doing things like analyzing a recruits body with their shirt off or making comments like "it moved" when a recruit shows interest (I can't remember what poster does that a lot and do not mean that statement as a personal attack, I just think its a weird, inappropriate way of expressing excitement regarding a recruit).

Agreed. Some of the comments on recruits' threads on this site are inappropriate and most are usually met with the same disdain held for those people that tweet obsessively at recruits.

 

[NDIrishManiac]

This will not be a popular opinion with many here but I commend NDIrishManiac for defending his position and not resorting to insults or running away without addressing the criticism of others. That said, I think tweeting recruits is generally a bad idea and when people do it obsessively it does become weird and creepy. I also think this can happen following recruiting generally when people start doing things like analyzing a recruits body with their shirt off or making comments like "it moved" when a recruit shows interest (I can't remember what poster does that a lot and do not mean that statement as a personal attack, I just think its a weird, inappropriate way of expressing excitement regarding a recruit). It is late and Im exhausted from studying so this is not my most coherent post but I guess what Im trying to get at is that some people are being a little too harsh with their hatred of NDIrishManiac and I give him credit for responding in a reasonable manner. I also think he should give up or at least ease up on the tweeting and the rest of us should probably examine our own behaviors about recruiting before getting high and mighty and rushing to bash others even if their behaviors may be more extreme or inappropriate.

Thank you for the lone ray of objectivity I’ve experienced on this board. I apologize for any repercussions you may suffer from having shown kindness to a reviled creature such as myself. Hopefully, you can take some solace in knowing that you’ve written what you believe to be the truth. It’s seems strange to me that some can hate others just for sharing their honest opinion.

I probably won’t be posting on this board much more. I’ve said my piece, and I’ve done the whole message board thing before. It’s a much bigger time waster than Twitter.

To the haters … the feeling is not mutual. I’m not the kind of person who harbors resentment. Anger is an unpleasant feeling, so I hope you can let it go.

If anyone wants to discuss tweeting to recruits or even offer-based ranking, I’ll be over on the Twitter machine. Look me up.

Who knows, maybe if I’m bored one day I may even post something for all my friends on IrishEnvy.

Thanks again, ShawneeIrish

Oh, PS … Posters, please remember that recruits and players do find their way to these pages sometimes. I’d hate to think that they’d read some of the hurtful things I’ve read on here.

 

[JughedJones]

Thank you for the lone ray of objectivity I’ve experienced on this board. I apologize for any repercussions you may suffer from having shown kindness to a reviled creature such as myself. Hopefully, you can take some solace in knowing that you’ve written what you believe to be the truth. It’s seems strange to me that some can hate others just for sharing their honest opinion.

I probably won’t be posting on this board much more. I’ve said my piece, and I’ve done the whole message board thing before. It’s a much bigger time waster than Twitter.

To the haters … the feeling is not mutual. I’m not the kind of person who harbors resentment. Anger is an unpleasant feeling, so I hope you can let it go.

If anyone wants to discuss tweeting to recruits or even offer-based ranking, I’ll be over on the Twitter machine. Look me up.

Who knows, maybe if I’m bored one day I may even post something for all my friends on IrishEnvy.

Thanks again, ShawneeIrish

Oh, PS … Posters, please remember that recruits and players do find their way to these pages sometimes. I’d hate to think that they’d read some of the hurtful things I’ve read on here.

Wow! I congratulate you on your form. Nice exit!


(Somebody should post a gif of a really ignorant dude dropping a microphone.)

 

[NDinFL]

This is hardly the extent of what you do. Your engagement with recruits runs muuuuch deeper than simply publicly congratulating them on their accomplishments. I could post visual evidence if you care to disagree?



I'm not going to spend the time to psychoanalyze you based on your tweets, but my belief is there is much more to it than the bolded sentence above.



What T Town Tommy said...



Agreed. Some of the comments on recruits' threads on this site are inappropriate and most are usually met with the same disdain held for those people that tweet obsessively at recruits.

Rep this man

Edit: post the tweets, it's a public forum, show everyone

 

[NDinFL]

This will not be a popular opinion with many here but I commend NDIrishManiac for defending his position and not resorting to insults or running away without addressing the criticism of others. That said, I think tweeting recruits is generally a bad idea and when people do it obsessively it does become weird and creepy. I also think this can happen following recruiting generally when people start doing things like analyzing a recruits body with their shirt off or making comments like "it moved" when a recruit shows interest (I can't remember what poster does that a lot and do not mean that statement as a personal attack, I just think its a weird, inappropriate way of expressing excitement regarding a recruit). It is late and Im exhausted from studying so this is not my most coherent post but I guess what Im trying to get at is that some people are being a little too harsh with their hatred of NDIrishManiac and I give him credit for responding in a reasonable manner. I also think he should give up or at least ease up on the tweeting and the rest of us should probably examine our own behaviors about recruiting before getting high and mighty and rushing to bash others even if their behaviors may be more extreme or inappropriate.

So, let me get this straight....

Read the bolded portion, out loud.

I mean, you DO realize that this is what he does, right???

RIGHT?!?

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

To the haters,the feeling is not mutual. I&#146;m not the kind of person who harbors resentment. Anger is an unpleasant feeling, so I hope you can let it go.

That's rich.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Quote:
Originally Posted by NDIrishManiac View Post
To the haters,the feeling is not mutual. I’m not the kind of person who harbors resentment. Anger is an unpleasant feeling, so I hope you can let it go.

That's rich.

I am.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Since this discussion has been moved to a more appropriate thread, I’m going to respond to your comments. Aside from name-calling, your points boil down to three main themes:

Creepiness: This disingenuous portrayal is designed to demonize the target. It plays upon the age of the recruits to imply that the target is something akin to a child molester. The truth of the matter is that the age of the recruits is immaterial. They would be treated exactly the same if they were 21, 25, or 35. What matters is that they are Notre Dame recruits, not their age.

If you’re a follower of recruiting, you should take this canard personally. They’re talking about you too. We both follow these young recruits. The difference is that instead of remaining in the shadows, I acknowledge my presence and publicly congratulate them on their accomplishments.

Motivation: Most people assume that I’m trying to convince the recruit to choose Notre Dame. This is not the case. I know my comments will have absolutely no impact on their decision. The reason I tweet to recruits is to let them know that Notre Dame fans would like them to attend the University. Do recruits really care how supportive the different college fan bases are? The answer to this question is obvious. I’m just a member of that larger fan base.

NCAA Violation: In my opinion, this is the only legitimate criticism of tweeting to recruits. If I believed it truly was a violation that could hurt the university, I wouldn’t do it.

I’ve read the NCAA rules in question. I acknowledge that tweeting to recruits could technically be considered an extremely minor violation under the very broadest interpretation. Realistically, even if it were interpreted as a violation, it would be one so small that no one would care. I’m not convinced it poses any risk whatsoever to the University.

Notre Dame did publish a video telling fans not to contact recruits. It was a wise move on the part of the University. If the NCAA should, for some reason, try to hold Notre Dame responsible for the actions of its fans, the University can demonstrate that it made efforts to prevent it. The video was a very cheap insurance policy. It may have worked too well. No other college football fan base is nearly as paranoid about this issue.

You may now return to your flogging.

Solid post. Coherent. Rational. Convincing. *fart*

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Solid post. Coherent. Rational. Convincing. *fart*

Can't you just see this as script for a scene with a 'Brittish commando-special forces' briefing in a 1960's B movie? "Demoralize the target. Get the target's guard down. Then emasculate the target!" Arrrgh, as the riding crop is brought home on the target! More bad gas.

 

[NDinL.A.]

This will not be a popular opinion with many here but I commend NDIrishManiac for defending his position without resorting to insults

He actually has insulted us, just in a passive-aggressive way. Read his posts carefully. I do agree though that at least he responded and didn't cower away.

I realize that many Notre Dame fans believe tweeting to recruits is tantamount to murder ever since the video came out from ND Compliance.

OK, first of all, enough with the dramatics. You sound like you should be trying out for a Broadway play. Everything you write about us here is so over-the-top it's annoying.

And we've been saying this BEFORE the video came out. The video had very little to do with members of this site telling dorks like you and grubl and domelover3 to get a life and leave these guys alone.

I’ve seen the video several times, and I’ve considered this issue at length. I disagree. If regular fans tweeting to recruits is indeed a violation (this is debatable), it is one so minor that the NCAA has never hinted at enforcing it even though it is violated openly thousands of times every day.

So the people that get paid to follow the rules are wrong, and you are right. And therefore, it's OK for you to do it because you disagree with the rule??? And also, it's a minor violation, so that also makes it OK? My Lord, that is some twisted logic.

What do the recruits think about fans tweeting to them? They expect it and encourage it. In my opinion, Notre Dame fans have handicapped themselves in this regard.

THIS IS MY PROBLEM WITH YOU DORKS!!! We haven't handicapped ourselves AT ALL lol! First off, when we are producing back-to-back top 5 classes (as it looks), how are we handicapping ourselves? 2nd of all, you have NOTHING to do with these recruits choosing ND. Nothing. We all laugh at dorks like you and grubl when you take credit for getting players to sign with ND, as if you had anything to do with it. I already know, you're going to say that you never take credit, but you know you feel a part of it. You're not. Like, AT ALL.

And make up your mind. In one breath you say that tweeting recruits plays no part whether a recruit signs with ND or not, and in the next breath you are saying ND fans handicap themselves by not tweeting recruits enough. Which one is it?

Please don’t hate me. I am not a monster!

For me, it's not hate, it's pity. You think you are part of something that you aren't; you think you are helping ND but you aren't; you think you are friends with these guys but you aren't. And man, you believe it to the tilt.

Creepiness:
If you’re a follower of recruiting, you should take this canard personally. They’re talking about you too. We both follow these young recruits. The difference is that instead of remaining in the shadows, I acknowledge my presence and publicly congratulate them on their accomplishments.

No, you do a lot more than that. You're playing the innocent here, but read your own tweets. ALL OF THEM. Nice try.

Most of us here follow the recruits FROM A DISTANCE. No contact or very little contact. You take it to an extreme. You get at them when they don't even ask you to, and you do it with a lot recruits. That's creepy. What we do here is completely different.

Motivation: Most people assume that I’m trying to convince the recruit to choose Notre Dame. This is not the case. I know my comments will have absolutely no impact on their decision. The reason I tweet to recruits is to let them know that Notre Dame fans would like them to attend the University. Do recruits really care how supportive the different college fan bases are? The answer to this question is obvious. I’m just a member of that larger fan base.

Do we really need to look up your twitter account and post all your tweets? You know, the ones where the recruits are not asking for your input and you just bug them and make us all look bad? Stop lying dude. You're delusional if you think that is all guys like you and grubl do.

NCAA Violation:
I’ve read the NCAA rules in question. I acknowledge that tweeting to recruits could technically be considered an extremely minor violation under the very broadest interpretation. Notre Dame did publish a video telling fans not to contact recruits. It may have worked too well. No other college football fan base is nearly as paranoid about this issue.

No one paranoid, except seemingly you. Most of us are saying stop doing it because you look creepy, you look foolish, and it makes the university look bad when fans like you go overboard. And it's even more pathetic that you completely ignore a university you supposedly love just so you can pretend to be a part of something that you are not.

Personally, I don't think it's a problem when a recruit asks fans to "get at them" and fans oblige. Or after a game when a fan tweets 'good job bro'. Not my cup of tea but whatever. My problem is when the dorks go overboard and annoy the recruits and get into twitter wars with other fan bases over recruits and act like they have something to do with them choosing ND. THAT is pathetic is hell.

 

[greyhammer90]

Since this discussion has been moved to a more appropriate thread, I’m going to respond to your comments. Aside from name-calling, your points boil down to three main themes:

Creepiness: This disingenuous portrayal is designed to demonize the target. It plays upon the age of the recruits to imply that the target is something akin to a child molester. The truth of the matter is that the age of the recruits is immaterial. They would be treated exactly the same if they were 21, 25, or 35. What matters is that they are Notre Dame recruits, not their age.

If you’re a follower of recruiting, you should take this canard personally. They’re talking about you too. We both follow these young recruits. The difference is that instead of remaining in the shadows, I acknowledge my presence and publicly congratulate them on their accomplishments.

Motivation: Most people assume that I’m trying to convince the recruit to choose Notre Dame. This is not the case. I know my comments will have absolutely no impact on their decision. The reason I tweet to recruits is to let them know that Notre Dame fans would like them to attend the University. Do recruits really care how supportive the different college fan bases are? The answer to this question is obvious. I’m just a member of that larger fan base.

NCAA Violation: In my opinion, this is the only legitimate criticism of tweeting to recruits. If I believed it truly was a violation that could hurt the university, I wouldn’t do it.

I’ve read the NCAA rules in question. I acknowledge that tweeting to recruits could technically be considered an extremely minor violation under the very broadest interpretation. Realistically, even if it were interpreted as a violation, it would be one so small that no one would care. I’m not convinced it poses any risk whatsoever to the University.

Notre Dame did publish a video telling fans not to contact recruits. It was a wise move on the part of the University. If the NCAA should, for some reason, try to hold Notre Dame responsible for the actions of its fans, the University can demonstrate that it made efforts to prevent it. The video was a very cheap insurance policy. It may have worked too well. No other college football fan base is nearly as paranoid about this issue.

You may now return to your flogging.

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[NDdomer2]

I think LA pretty much put this nail in the coffin.

I started reading the next star of Chris Hansen's "To Catch a Predator" post and the first thing that popped out was the fact that he made himself a hypocrite as LA so wonderfully pointed out.

The most glaring thing I read there is that you don't think the age matters.

Guess what it certainly does. If you were tweeting at Tom Brady all day long no one would give a **** what so over. I am willing to wager quite a bit of my vfortune that you have never tweeted an NFL free agent about his upcoming decision.

You clearly have something for high school boys.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I think LA pretty much put this nail in the coffin.

I started reading the next star of Chris Hansen's "To Catch a Predator" post and the first thing that popped out was the fact that he made himself a hypocrite as LA so wonderfully pointed out.

The most glaring thing I read there is that you don't think the age matters.

Guess what it certainly does. If you were tweeting at Tom Brady all day long no one would give a **** what so over. I am willing to wager quite a bit of my vfortune that you have never tweeted an NFL free agent about his upcoming decision.

You clearly have something for high school boys.

The other-other Grubl endorses this message!

Let me put it this way. When I had an interesting conversation with a 25 year old that was following my seventeen year old daughter around he finally got the point. He was a legal adult fully responsible under law for all decisions he made. Someone her age is not. Even though she made better decisions than he did (get this creep off my back!)

Everyone has an easier time seeing the difference, opposite sex versus same sex.

 

[STLDomer]

Since this discussion has been moved to a more appropriate thread, I’m going to respond to your comments. Aside from name-calling, your points boil down to three main themes:

Creepiness: This disingenuous portrayal is designed to demonize the target. It plays upon the age of the recruits to imply that the target is something akin to a child molester. The truth of the matter is that the age of the recruits is immaterial. They would be treated exactly the same if they were 21, 25, or 35. What matters is that they are Notre Dame recruits, not their age.

If you’re a follower of recruiting, you should take this canard personally. They’re talking about you too. We both follow these young recruits. The difference is that instead of remaining in the shadows, I acknowledge my presence and publicly congratulate them on their accomplishments.

Motivation: Most people assume that I’m trying to convince the recruit to choose Notre Dame. This is not the case. I know my comments will have absolutely no impact on their decision. The reason I tweet to recruits is to let them know that Notre Dame fans would like them to attend the University. Do recruits really care how supportive the different college fan bases are? The answer to this question is obvious. I’m just a member of that larger fan base.

NCAA Violation: In my opinion, this is the only legitimate criticism of tweeting to recruits. If I believed it truly was a violation that could hurt the university, I wouldn’t do it.

I’ve read the NCAA rules in question. I acknowledge that tweeting to recruits could technically be considered an extremely minor violation under the very broadest interpretation. Realistically, even if it were interpreted as a violation, it would be one so small that no one would care. I’m not convinced it poses any risk whatsoever to the University.

Notre Dame did publish a video telling fans not to contact recruits. It was a wise move on the part of the University. If the NCAA should, for some reason, try to hold Notre Dame responsible for the actions of its fans, the University can demonstrate that it made efforts to prevent it. The video was a very cheap insurance policy. It may have worked too well. No other college football fan base is nearly as paranoid about this issue.

You may now return to your flogging.

Others have stated why u shouldn't do what u do but I would also like to point out: u act like your Mr. Motivation, only tweets good stuff. I've soon u out there dude, u tweet at a recruit, other fan from a different team does the same and then you're in a big argument on Twitter and it annoys the crap out of the prospect you're arguing over.

 

[NDdomer2]

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