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My hope for the new trilogy is that they somehow go from Ancient Eygpt Old kingdom like you mentioned. then flash forward 1000 years and do Ancient Greece, and then flash forward anther 1000 years and do Ancient Rome. And then end the damn thing. If they did that I would be happy. Even though I really want a Japan setting, I just dont think they will ever make it. So if they end it with this Trilogy of antiquity settings I would be super happy.

Damn that would be awesome

Their originally-planned finale for the series was supposedly a full game of Desmond Miles in the present-day, doing Assassin stuff and ending (?) the Assassin/Templar feud. It would have been the same mechanics as AC/ACII/ACB, but in a present-day setting. All the games leading up to that would have been his training/backstory framed by the historical search for the Piece of Eden.

But, they decided they had a whole universe, not just series, on their hands, so they expanded the idea of "Piece of Eden" to "PIECES of Eden," and wrote the Templar/Assassin feud to be much bigger than just searching for the Apple of Eden. Thus, there are all kinds of characters/connections independent of each other that still fit into the base feud in their over-saturated universe of games.

I, for one, would have preferred a 5 or 6 game series that ended with a full present-day game of Desmond Miles. But that's obviously not possible due to the narrative (unless the Shroud of Turin gets involved), and the developers made a valid point about how a modern-day setting would defeat the charm of AC, because gameplay would simply be abused by the use of guns and vehicles. And you can't make a modern-day setting without guns and vehicles, because writing in their absence would just be a too-cheesy copout.
 

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Their originally-planned finale for the series was supposedly a full game of Desmond Miles in the present-day, doing Assassin stuff and ending (?) the Assassin/Templar feud. It would have been the same mechanics as AC/ACII/ACB, but in a present-day setting. All the games leading up to that would have been his training/backstory framed by the historical search for the Piece of Eden.

But, they decided they had a whole universe, not just series, on their hands, so they expanded the idea of "Piece of Eden" to "PIECES of Eden," and wrote the Templar/Assassin feud to be much bigger than just searching for the Apple of Eden. Thus, there are all kinds of characters/connections independent of each other that still fit into the base feud in their over-saturated universe of games.

I, for one, would have preferred a 5 or 6 game series that ended with a full present-day game of Desmond Miles. But that's obviously not possible due to the narrative (unless the Shroud of Turin gets involved), and the developers made a valid point about how a modern-day setting would defeat the charm of AC, because gameplay would simply be abused by the use of guns and vehicles. And you can't make a modern-day setting without guns and vehicles, because writing in their absence would just be a too-cheesy copout.

I dont think they need a full modern day game to end the series. They can just add in a 2 or 3 hour part in the modern day that wraps it up.

But I really just want a huge Roman antiquity entry in the series.
 

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I dont think they need a full modern day game to end the series. They can just add in a 2 or 3 hour part in the modern day that wraps it up.

But I really just want a huge Roman antiquity entry in the series.

Yes. I've not cared for everything past Brotherhood.
 

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Yes. I've not cared for everything past Brotherhood.

I loved the entire Ezio trilogy. The setting of those 3 games were just in a period of history that I loved exploring.

AC 3 was a fun setting but the story had many holes IMO and it really left me wanting more closure.

AC4BF was fukin epic. Loved that game, but I want to actually see that games conclusion propel the overall story further somehow.

Unity was an amazing setting, but the story was utterly pointless, and it does nothing for the overall progression of the series.

Syndicate was a much better story IMO but it ended just like unity. It literally did nothing for progressing the overall story, except it introduced the comic book russian assassin character.

This next game absolutely NEEDS to move the MAIN story a head or else im going to be furious.
 

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I loved the entire Ezio trilogy. The setting of those 3 games were just in a period of history that I loved exploring.

AC 3 was a fun setting but the story had many holes IMO and it really left me wanting more closure.

AC4BF was fukin epic. Loved that game, but I want to actually see that games conclusion propel the overall story further somehow.

Unity was an amazing setting, but the story was utterly pointless, and it does nothing for the overall progression of the series.

Syndicate was a much better story IMO but it ended just like unity. It literally did nothing for progressing the overall story, except it introduced the comic book russian assassin character.

This next game absolutely NEEDS to move the MAIN story a head or else im going to be furious.

It almost seems like Game of Thrones and the issue many people think GRRM has: they don't know where they want to go with the end-game anymore.

They had a nice, neat concept and story that spanned history, and the modern-day story seemed to be heading towards some sort of useful resolution alongside the historical portions... but then they made that plot-turn with Desmond at the end of III, and suddenly it was like they made 4 or 5 whole games with a modern-day story that was really just a giant prologue to a massive chapter book.

They need to rein it in and start hinting at some sort of final resolution to the Assassins/Templar struggle.
 

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It almost seems like Game of Thrones and the issue many people think GRRM has: they don't know where they want to go with the end-game anymore.

They had a nice, neat concept and story that spanned history, and the modern-day story seemed to be heading towards some sort of useful resolution alongside the historical portions... but then they made that plot-turn with Desmond at the end of III, and suddenly it was like they made 4 or 5 whole games with a modern-day story that was really just a giant prologue to a massive chapter book.

They need to rein it in and start hinting at some sort of final resolution to the Assassins/Templar struggle.

I agree with everything you said.

The whole reason why the "MAIN" story of the series went off the reigns was bc the Ubisoft higher ups took the control out of Patrice Desilets hands and he said screw you and left the company. The got greedy and wanted a game every year like COD.

Patrice was the creator behind the game, he was the director, and he helped lead the writing of the story. Thats why the first 2 games were so freaking amazing. He only intended the series to be a trilogy. This isn't confirmed, but I've read speculation that Patrice didnt even want AC Brotherhood to happen, but Ubisoft basically made him make it. And he left the company a few months before Brotherhood was released, but his team finished it with out him. I think Patrice realized with the success of AC2, that his bosses were going to F up the series so he left because he didn't want to be a part of it. Shit even got crazier after that, and basically Ubisoft acquired THQ, the company Patrice was working at after he left the company. Ubisoft basically stole his game and then fired him. Patrice took it to lawsuit, and I believe he won in court and got his game back last year. But hes said he cant do anything with that project for a while.

Long story short, I wish Patrice would come back and fix the series. lol
 

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Europa Universallis IV.

Just getting back into it. I prefer starting during the 30 years' war. I get a special satisfaction slaughtering those who would separate themselves from the Church in Rome.
 

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Long story short, I wish Patrice would come back and fix the series. lol

Haha, maybe there's room for mending fences. I know a large portion of the team that developed ACIV was essentially disbanded and was no longer working on AC projects together, but they are supposedly back in the fold and helping finish the Egypt installment, so perhaps the decision makers are finally wising up.

Of course, that would mean they get smart and finally do an Asian setting that isn't a side-scroller, or a full-scale medieval setting, but that might be asking too much.
 

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Assassin's Creed was amazing? Most considered it a big disappointment. Assassin's Creed 2 was the first really good game of the series.

I played the first one, and while it was fun at first, the constant climbing got really repetitive after awhile. Should have called it Assassin's Climbing instead. Reminded me of Zelda: Windwaker, 3/4 of that game was fucking sailing.

Never played another AC game after that, although I've been told some of the later ones were better.
 

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Assassin's Creed was amazing? Most considered it a big disappointment. Assassin's Creed 2 was the first really good game of the series.

I loved AC1. Absolutely loved it. You have to remember that game came out in 2007. It was the first game that had multiple large urban cities with environments like that. Yes some people complained about the repetitive gameplay, but back then, many games had flaws like that. And I have always interpreted the public's opinion of that game as being primarily positive. The public shyte on AC3 and Unity more than any other titles in the series.
 

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I loved AC1. Absolutely loved it. You have to remember that game came out in 2007. It was the first game that had multiple large urban cities with environments like that. Yes some people complained about the repetitive gameplay, but back then, many games had flaws like that. And I have always interpreted the public's opinion of that game as being primarily positive. The public shyte on AC3 and Unity more than any other titles in the series.

To each his own. I remember being pretty disappointed in it despite the graphics being impressive. I think it earned a 7 on IGN and I remember thinking that was a fair score.
 

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To each his own. I remember being pretty disappointed in it despite the graphics being impressive. I think it earned a 7 on IGN and I remember thinking that was a fair score.

Right on dude. I think repetitiveness is in every video game. Some instances are more obvious than others. For me, I'm looking to get emerged into a setting or story. And if those are good enough, a repetitive gameplay mechanic doesn't bother me personally I guess.
 

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So help me out here: What the hell IS the Wild Hunt anyway?? Is there like some easy answer to this? I've seen attempts at answering this question as I'm not the only one wondering but each answer is far too long or just confuses things further...

I thought they were some ghost army, but then as the story unfolds you learn they are just normal Elves?? What makes them so super bad ass if they are just some special crack force from the Elven world?... and Elves are not from our world in this story?? How'd so many all get here if their world is in some other dimension,... you encounter Elves in almost every major town...
 
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Started playing Ghost Recon: Into the Wild. Haven't played a Tom Clancy game before. Seemed to get okay reviews (7/10 averages from critics). User reviews are low, but a lot of those seem to be targeted at the DLC...that, and I saw a number of "0" reviews, which is just silly. The one knock on it seems to be that missions get repetitive after awhile. Very, very large, open world map though. Tons of guns to play with and upgrade. Certainly a lot to do.
 

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Started playing Ghost Recon: Into the Wild. Haven't played a Tom Clancy game before. Seemed to get okay reviews (7/10 averages from critics). The one knock on it seems to be that missions get repetitive after awhile. Very, very large, open world map though. Tons of guns to play with and upgrade. Certainly a lot to do.
The reason I will definitely not be playing this one is because it's not really a Ghost Recon game. The OG Ghost Recon was a tactical shooter and this... is something else.
 

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I am terrible at Crusader Kings 2. My sons kept murdering me and getting away with it. They're terrible rulers too, so I started over. In the new game, my heir somehow became King of Croatia, but the game is moving very slowly.
 

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The reason I will definitely not be playing this one is because it's not really a Ghost Recon game. The OG Ghost Recon was a tactical shooter and this... is something else.

From what some have said, it seems to be a mix of Far Cry and The Division. I've played Far Cry, and I can definitely see a strong resemblance there. Never played The Division though.
 

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So help me out here: What the hell IS the Wild Hunt anyway?? Is there like some easy answer to this? I've seen attempts at answering this question as I'm not the only one wondering but each answer is far too long or just confuses things further...

I thought they were some ghost army, but then as the story unfolds you learn they are just normal Elves?? What makes them so super bad ass if they are just some special crack force from the Elven world?... and Elves are not from our world in this story?? How'd so many all get here if their world is in some other dimension,... you encounter Elves in almost every major town...

There was a cataclysmic event 1500 years before Geralt's time called the Conjunction of the Spheres which stranded creatures from other worlds in Geralt's (so yes, there are many other dimensions at play, some of which you see toward the end of the main quest). That's where all the monsters came from.

The elves you see in cities and towns are Aen Seidhe, which are elves that are native to Geralt's world. The Wild Hunt are Aen Elle, powerful elves from a different world, who are attempting to forestall the destruction of their world by kidnapping Ciri. The Red Riders are an elite force of Aen Elle that travel between worlds, and encountering them is generally very bad news. In Geralt's world, they're referred to as the Wild Hunt, and are rumored to be a ghost army because they look terrifying and can appear out of nowhere. But they're really just normal elves utilizing the same sort of magic Ciri uses to skip between worlds.
 

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There was a cataclysmic event 1500 years before Geralt's time called the Conjunction of the Spheres which stranded creatures from other worlds in Geralt's (so yes, there are many other dimensions at play, some of which you see toward the end of the main quest). That's where all the monsters came from.

The elves you see in cities and towns are Aen Seidhe, which are elves that are native to Geralt's world. The Wild Hunt are Aen Elle, powerful elves from a different world, who are attempting to forestall the destruction of their world by kidnapping Ciri. The Red Riders are an elite force of Aen Elle that travel between worlds, and encountering them is generally very bad news. In Geralt's world, they're referred to as the Wild Hunt, and are rumored to be a ghost army because they look terrifying and an appear out of nowhere. But they're really just normal elves utilizing the same sort of magic Ciri uses to skip between worlds.

Thanks. This makes sense... I keep playing this like, "I know I am coming in at the 3rd installment, but they're still going to explain all this in detail at some point right??"

I'm at the quest where you kidnap Gels right now so after that finished I was like, "Okay, seriously what the fuck is going on?"
 

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The Wild Hunt apparently played a big part in the previous two games, so CDPR probably assumed most people would be familiar with it. They definitely could have done a better job of explaining it, though.
 

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The Wild Hunt apparently played a big part in the previous two games, so CDPR probably assumed most people would be familiar with it. They definitely could have done a better job of explaining it, though.

I have to ask, where did you obtain your understanding.. is it just scattered around in hundreds of game cut scenes? Did you just look it up? Did I miss something somewhere?
 

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I have to ask, where did you obtain your understanding.. is it just scattered around in hundreds of game cut scenes? Did you just look it up? Did I miss something somewhere?

Two complete play-throughs (and as a completionist, so I have a bad habit of voraciously consuming all the in-game lore), and I've looked up some lore online out of curiosity.

Between the books and the previous games, this particular rabbit hole goes very deep. My knowledge is pretty much limited to the 3rd game and most important backstory elements.
 

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Two complete play-throughs (and as a completionist, so I have a bad habit of voraciously consuming all the in-game lore), and I've looked up some lore online out of curiosity.

Between the books and the previous games, this particular rabbit hole goes very deep. My knowledge is pretty much limited to the 3rd game and most important backstory elements.

Have you read any of the books?? Fantasy is not typically my thing but I have thought about giving these a shot...
 
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