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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Star Vanderbilt LB Dimitri Moore is in the portal as a grad transfer, via <a href="https://twitter.com/rwweinstein?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@rwweinstein</a>. He led the team with 99 tackles last season and has 36 so far this season. <a href="https://t.co/pRIV2pq7E5">https://t.co/pRIV2pq7E5</a></p>— 247Sports Transfer Portal (@247SportsPortal) <a href="https://twitter.com/247SportsPortal/status/1331295333591240710?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If I am Clark Lea i am kicking tires on this kid for next year
No. The team is so deep at LB and mostly young talent at LB.
 

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This is apropos of nothing. I haven't heard anything, just wondering:

would we kick the tires on Dylan McCaffrey as a transfer?

It didn't occur to me until somebody the other day (Lax maybe) said the word around Ann Arbor was he would've been QB1 but didn't believe in the Harbaugh plan anymore.
 

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Milton would be a great Book succession plan, and give Buchner a year to learn the system. Kid can ball, and if he’s healthy, his skillset would be perfect for this offense. Staff should absolutely take a flier on this dude at the very least
 

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Milton would be a great Book succession plan, and give Buchner a year to learn the system. Kid can ball, and if he’s healthy, his skillset would be perfect for this offense. Staff should absolutely take a flier on this dude at the very least

flawed thinking that buchner would need a year to learn but milton wouldnt
 

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flawed thinking that buchner would need a year to learn but milton wouldnt


Milton has had real, tangible success in CFB, Buchner is still an unknown commodity, whose last live reps were as a junior in high school. It’s not so much about learning the football system and offense as it is about learning how to play the college game and live the college lifestyle, both of which Milton is extremely well versed in. Again, if healthy, the staff would be foolish to not at least inquire.

As for Nebraska, they’ll have senior starter Martinez back, and if you’re a grad transfer looking for a landing spot, is that Lincoln dumpster fire the place you want to go to and try to resurrect your career?
 

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Milton has had real, tangible success in CFB, Buchner is still an unknown commodity, whose last live reps were as a junior in high school. It’s not so much about learning the football system and offense as it is about learning how to play the college game and live the college lifestyle, both of which Milton is extremely well versed in. Again, if healthy, the staff would be foolish to not at least inquire.

As for Nebraska, they’ll have senior starter Martinez back, and if you’re a grad transfer looking for a landing spot, is that Lincoln dumpster fire the place you want to go to and try to resurrect your career?

He knows Scott Frost who was terrific at UCF. Yes, Nebr is a dumpster fire but Frost could sell Milton on the success they had at UCF. The are starting the latest in the McCaffrey line at QB I think he's got 3 yrs of eligibility left. He looks pretty meh from what I've seen.

Milton was a lot like Book before he got hurt, elusive as hell and good at throwing after escaping the rush. From Hawaii. Might be a good fit at ND but I doubt we have the inside track.

How do you determine the status of his recovery? I don't think you can ask for medicals or work him out like the pros would. He almost lost his leg. I'd be hard to play big time football after something like that.
 

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Milton has had real, tangible success in CFB, Buchner is still an unknown commodity, whose last live reps were as a junior in high school. It’s not so much about learning the football system and offense as it is about learning how to play the college game and live the college lifestyle, both of which Milton is extremely well versed in. Again, if healthy, the staff would be foolish to not at least inquire.

As for Nebraska, they’ll have senior starter Martinez back, and if you’re a grad transfer looking for a landing spot, is that Lincoln dumpster fire the place you want to go to and try to resurrect your career?

But you didn't say all that did you. You said "the system", which Milton knows just as well as Buchner.
 

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But you didn't say all that did you. You said "the system", which Milton knows just as well as Buchner.


I shouldn’t have to. You’re the one who made the immediate jump to that meaning they’re on even terms knowing the ND offense, and while that is true, Milton, if healthy, would be miles ahead in literally everything else and I’m not sure you needed me to explain that to know that’s the case
 

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He knows Scott Frost who was terrific at UCF. Yes, Nebr is a dumpster fire but Frost could sell Milton on the success they had at UCF. The are starting the latest in the McCaffrey line at QB I think he's got 3 yrs of eligibility left. He looks pretty meh from what I've seen.

Milton was a lot like Book before he got hurt, elusive as hell and good at throwing after escaping the rush. From Hawaii. Might be a good fit at ND but I doubt we have the inside track.

How do you determine the status of his recovery? I don't think you can ask for medicals or work him out like the pros would. He almost lost his leg. I'd be hard to play big time football after something like that.


UCF also had a great cupboard of skill guys to throw to, Nebraska has Wandale Robinson and that’s it. McCaffery started over Martinez one game but has since gone back to Martinez. I’m in the heart of Husker country, so I have a decent beat on their program, and if this kid wants to showcase his talents for the next level, Lincoln would be one of the worst spots to end up
 

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UCF also had a great cupboard of skill guys to throw to, Nebraska has Wandale Robinson and that’s it. McCaffery started over Martinez one game but has since gone back to Martinez. I’m in the heart of Husker country, so I have a decent beat on their program, and if this kid wants to showcase his talents for the next level, Lincoln would be one of the worst spots to end up

Zavier Betts is a stud. The little WR out of Miami... Fleming(?) is gonna be trouble. That monster TE is good and I think has a couple of years left. Fidone comes in next year. They need to stack some guys but if those guys stay healthy and Robinson stays 4 years, that's a real talented start.

Oh... and Oliver Martin is there and hasn't transferred yet.
 

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Zavier Betts is a stud. The little WR out of Miami... Fleming(?) is gonna be trouble. That monster TE is good and I think has a couple of years left. Fidone comes in next year. They need to stack some guys but if those guys stay healthy and Robinson stays 4 years, that's a real talented start.

Oh... and Oliver Martin is there and hasn't transferred yet.


No doubt, they’re gonna have some talent in a couple of years, but I’m guessing Milton’s time is limited and would want into a situation ripe with talent ready to explode next season, and I just don’t think Lincoln fits that description. I do know of another, smaller midwestern university that is ripe with WR talent that should surely explode next season and has the opportunity to make a veteran QB look really really good
 

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Buchner>>Pyne=Milton....



ND has what they need for the next couple years at QB.... wouldn't waste the spot on Milton IMO...
 

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I think it is absolutely silly to think we know anything about the skill level of Pyne, Clarke, and Buchner based on the zero practice we have been able to see on two of them, and very little we have been able to see on Clarke
 

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I think it is absolutely silly to think we know anything about the skill level of Pyne, Clarke, and Buchner based on the zero practice we have been able to see on two of them, and very little we have been able to see on Clarke


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But Milton is not the answer for ND just because he is a graduate transfer
 

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Book and Milton’s stats are so similar through 1030 attempts, and if a healthy Milton came in with ND’s offensive weapons, his floor is an Ian Book season, and I think everyone on this board would sign up for that. If you have the option of one more season of Book-esque QB play or turn the roster over and give Buchner the full go as a true freshman, is anyone picking Buchner? I’m a big Buchner fan, but I think a year of observing and learning while not having the pressure of performing big time his first year would be so good for him.

I’m not saying it’s a slam dunk, and I’m certainly not saying this is 100% the better option over Clark and Pyne (because we don’t know their ceilings), but Milton is the known commodity and has 23 games under his belt in college football, while the other three on the roster will have a combined 4 games and under 30 passing attempts played in college football (knock on wood), and the staff would not be doing their job if they didn’t at least see if he would be healthy enough to come in and contribute next year.
 

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My problem is all those stats are pre-injury...and he had a horrible injury. Personally I do not think he will be as good as he was and I would pass.
 

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flawed thinking that buchner would need a year to learn but milton wouldnt

Granted, I have not read all I could about it....but from what I have gleamed from this board over the last 6-12months is (and its just my opionion) but if Buchner doesn't come in here next year and start as a freshman, i'll consider it a disappointment. Am I way off-base in thinking that?
 

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Granted, I have not read all I could about it....but from what I have gleamed from this board over the last 6-12months is (and its just my opionion) but if Buchner doesn't come in here next year and start as a freshman, i'll consider it a disappointment. Am I way off-base in thinking that?

That's what the board probably thought 12 months ago. In a short 6 months it all changed with people freaking out about his performance with new mechanics.
 

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Get Desmond Ridder to ND as a grad transfer once Fickell leaves UC this off-season.

He plays a the same as Ian Book in many ways. As someone who watches both teams each week, it is uncanny to me at times. They both are at their best on 3rd down, when it’s time to play backyard football.

Whereas Ian is a better passer and buys time to throw, Ridder has elite speed and buys time to take off past the LOS more often.

(This also frees up Ben Bryant to take the reins at UC for a year until Evan Prater is ready, so everybody wins.)
 

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Get Desmond Ridder to ND as a grad transfer once Fickell leaves UC this off-season.

He plays a the same as Ian Book in many ways. As someone who watches both teams each week, it is uncanny to me at times. They both are at their best on 3rd down, when it’s time to play backyard football.

Whereas Ian is a better passer and buys time to throw, Ridder has elite speed and buys time to take off past the LOS more often.

(This also frees up Ben Bryant to take the reins at UC for a year until Evan Prater is ready, so everybody wins.)


I would 100% be behind this as well
 

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Book and Milton’s stats are so similar through 1030 attempts, and if a healthy Milton came in with ND’s offensive weapons, his floor is an Ian Book season, and I think everyone on this board would sign up for that. If you have the option of one more season of Book-esque QB play or turn the roster over and give Buchner the full go as a true freshman, is anyone picking Buchner? I’m a big Buchner fan, but I think a year of observing and learning while not having the pressure of performing big time his first year would be so good for him.

I’m not saying it’s a slam dunk, and I’m certainly not saying this is 100% the better option over Clark and Pyne (because we don’t know their ceilings), but Milton is the known commodity and has 23 games under his belt in college football, while the other three on the roster will have a combined 4 games and under 30 passing attempts played in college football (knock on wood), and the staff would not be doing their job if they didn’t at least see if he would be healthy enough to come in and contribute next year.

Good stuff. I definitely think ND should be looking for a grad transfer at QB for next season and Milton should be in the mix.

Granted, I have not read all I could about it....but from what I have gleamed from this board over the last 6-12months is (and its just my opionion) but if Buchner doesn't come in here next year and start as a freshman, i'll consider it a disappointment. Am I way off-base in thinking that?

You mean the unreal expectations this(and all) board(s) puts on incoming freshman to be the starter at (position of need) and instantly be great?

Get Desmond Ridder to ND as a grad transfer once Fickell leaves UC this off-season.

He plays a the same as Ian Book in many ways. As someone who watches both teams each week, it is uncanny to me at times. They both are at their best on 3rd down, when it’s time to play backyard football.

Whereas Ian is a better passer and buys time to throw, Ridder has elite speed and buys time to take off past the LOS more often.

(This also frees up Ben Bryant to take the reins at UC for a year until Evan Prater is ready, so everybody wins.)

Kirk, is that you? I agree here too. I really hope the staff does take a look at the transfer portal for a QB for next season.
 

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all 3 guys on II podcast said ND needs to absolutely kick the tires on Milton
 

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UCF Knights QB McKenzie Milton says he is transferring to Florida State Seminoles
 
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