Silly Season 2015/2016 (Coaching Changes)

[BoredIrish]

I was hoping that they would have offered the job to Ken N from navy. I think the triple option could really play at Minnesota and it would be interesting to watch him cause havoc in the big 10 year after year.

 

[IrishLion]

Is Ken N ever going to leave Navy?

If he didn't take the BYU gig, what job would he take?

 

[kmoose]

Is Ken N ever going to leave Navy?

If he didn't take the BYU gig, what job would he take?

Human Resources/Hiring Manager at Porn World?

 

[PANDFAN]

I was hoping that they would have offered the job to Ken N from navy. I think the triple option could really play at Minnesota and it would be interesting to watch him cause havoc in the big 10 year after year.

Is Ken N ever going to leave Navy?

If he didn't take the BYU gig, what job would he take?

he is due for his retirement and pension from the goverment....he isn't going anywhere

 

[zelezo vlk]

he is due for his retirement and pension from the goverment....he isn't going anywhere

I thought the key to him not leaving last year was because he was close to receiving his full pension. Would he still be eligible for that if he left for BYU if Kalani Sitake doesn't work out?

 

[BobbyMac]

Is Ken N ever going to leave Navy?

If he didn't take the BYU gig, what job would he take?

GT... and the $1M-$2M raise would make him forget about his Navy pension.

 

[dublinirish]

Jedd Fisch Named UCLA Offensive Coordinator - UCLABruins.com | UCLA Athletics

 

[Meatloaf]

Yes, please:

https://www.landof10.com/minnesota/minnesota-contacts-navy-ken-niumatalolo

 

[Irish#1]

Houston's on the other side with Navy.

UC & USF have to deal with Temple and UCF too. What will always hurt in the AAC is coaching turnover. The new regime in Cincy won't be there long. Of those four, I'd say Strong is the only guy that might stick around. Charlie's getting up to shuffleboard age and he's landed in the right place for that. I can't even leave out the other two, ECU and UConn. Scottie Montgomery's a first time HC at ECU, a school that has a history of getting it going and UConn rehired Edsal who led them through their glory years in the Big East.

Beat all those guys and then give up 400 yds on the ground to Navy in the Championship game. Good luck.

Now that's funny stuff right there.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Yes, please:

https://www.landof10.com/minnesota/minnesota-contacts-navy-ken-niumatalolo

"There have also already been reports that Western Michigan’s P.J. Fleck won’t join the Gophers."

 

[dublinirish]

Yes, please:

https://www.landof10.com/minnesota/minnesota-contacts-navy-ken-niumatalolo

if Minny offered him the same salary as Claeys he'd be taking a pay cut to go there

 

[IrishLion]

"There have also already been reports that Western Michigan’s P.J. Fleck won’t join the Gophers."

It's almost like he's waiting on a bigger job next season or something, amirite???

 

[ND NYC]

would think that NO coach who has other options wants any part of Minny after how they treated this last guy and also Kill.

 

[NDdomer2]

Put me in the no Fleck camp. Just don't see the infatuation. Maybe I'm missing something.

As far as Chip Kelly. It's speculated he will be Pats OC after McDaniel takes a HC gig. Would be quite the landing spot after a tumultuous 3 years as NFL HC.

 

[Blaise]

Put me in the no Fleck camp. Just don't see the infatuation. Maybe I'm missing something.

As far as Chip Kelly. It's speculated he will be Pats OC after McDaniel takes a HC gig. Would be quite the landing spot after a tumultuous 3 years as NFL HC.

hahahahahahahaha He is not going to Pats.. Chip's offense has proven to burn out his defenses.. They are on field too much. No way Bill wants that sideshow and no way does Brady want that ego calling plays

 

[woolybug25]

Put me in the no Fleck camp. Just don't see the infatuation. Maybe I'm missing something.

As far as Chip Kelly. It's speculated he will be Pats OC after McDaniel takes a HC gig. Would be quite the landing spot after a tumultuous 3 years as NFL HC.

You don't get why people like him? Really? I could get someone thinking it wouldn't work here, or that he's a bad fit, etc. But I find it hard to understand how someone couldn't understand why people like a guy that has consistently got high level results from low level recruits, builds excellent team unity, outperforms more talented teams on a consistent basis, recruits better than his school's brand usually can produce, develops players extremely well, and hasn't even entered his prime coaching years.

I understand if you don't want him, but not understanding the basis of why others do seems odd to me.

 

[IrishLax]

You don't get why people like him? Really? I could get someone thinking it wouldn't work here, or that he's a bad fit, etc. But I find it hard to understand how someone couldn't understand why people like a guy that has consistently got high level results from low level recruits, builds excellent team unity, outperforms more talented teams on a consistent basis, recruits better than his school's brand usually can produce, develops players extremely well, and hasn't even entered his prime coaching years.

I understand if you don't want him, but not understanding the basis of why others do seems odd to me.

I think I saw someone on here say that Fleck is basically Dabo before he was Dabo, and I thought that was pretty interesting and accurate. A lot of people talked down at Dabo because he wasn't really an "Xs and Os genius", but Clemson enabled him to succeed by paying more than anyone for the best coordinators at the time (and also allegedly paying for some top tier recruits) and giving him full support.

Now, Dabo's built a self-sustaining machine where the players really like him and play hard for him and he gets to be genuine. Fleck could do something similar in the right situation.

 

[Cackalacky]

WATCH: Swinney really likes Diamonds - Clemson Football Update | TigerNet
Dabo is a new money yokel.


Seriously Clemson has invested a ton of green on their football both above board and below but its working. They are turning the town into a great college town as well. Its a concerted effort on all parties to make Clemson an enjoyable place to live and attend school.

 

[IrishLion]

Can't embed on my phone, but one news outlet is reporting that Fleck is headed to Minnesota.

Check out @KSTPSports's Tweet: https://twitter.com/KSTPSports/status/817166839545561088?s=09

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FOX 9 has learned through multiple sources that PJ Fleck has a tentative agreement with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Gophers?src=hash">#Gophers</a> to be the next head coach. 6-yr, $21M range</p>— FOX 9 Sports (@Fox9Sports) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fox9Sports/status/817204971879837696">January 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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IMO, this is a pretty pointless move. Not sure he'll be able to jump to a better gig in 1 year, and good lord Minnesota is a mess right now.

 

[woolybug25]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FOX 9 has learned through multiple sources that PJ Fleck has a tentative agreement with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Gophers?src=hash">#Gophers</a> to be the next head coach. 6-yr, $21M range</p>— FOX 9 Sports (@Fox9Sports) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fox9Sports/status/817204971879837696">January 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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IMO, this is a pretty pointless move. Not sure he'll be able to jump to a better gig in 1 year, and good lord Minnesota is a mess right now.

Yeah, I don't get this move. He wins the MAC next year, he would have much better programs looking at him. Possibly even an outside shot with Notre Dame. That's an awfully big contract for a major program to buy out. I wish him well if true though.

 

[IrishLax]

Yeah, I don't get this move. He wins the MAC next year, he would have much better programs looking at him. Possibly even an outside shot with Notre Dame. That's an awfully big contract for a major program to buy out. I wish him well if true though.

If they offer security him getting fired but favorable buyout clauses for him leaving on his own I actually think it makes a lot of sense for him to take the $$$ now. That's about triple what WMU can afford to pay him... so if he's worked out the deal right, I think it's a great move both short-term and long-term. No harder to win in Big West at Minnesota than it was to win in MAC taking over Western Michigan which was arguably the worst school in the conference at the time.

 

[STLDomer]

Is Les Miles being picky or am I taking crazy pills thinking since he was let go he's been the best available coach by far? Appears to be the backup plan to Fleck at Minnesota? Don't care how much of a up and comer Fleck is, I'd take Miles over him in a heartbeat. I don't get why all these schools are passing on Miles. Is he not listening? Too much money?

 

[GATTACA!]

 

[GATTACA!]

If they offer security him getting fired but favorable buyout clauses for him leaving on his own I actually think it makes a lot of sense for him to take the $$$ now. That's about triple what WMU can afford to pay him... so if he's worked out the deal right, I think it's a great move both short-term and long-term. No harder to win in Big West at Minnesota than it was to win in MAC taking over Western Michigan which was arguably the worst school in the conference at the time.

Yeah but he already has the heavy lifting done at Western Michigan. This is like hitting the restart button. Even if he has the buyout structured the way you're suggesting he might not be able to use it if he isn't an attractive candidate. How is anyone supposed to win immediately with that roster?

 

[woolybug25]

If they offer security him getting fired but favorable buyout clauses for him leaving on his own I actually think it makes a lot of sense for him to take the $$$ now. That's about triple what WMU can afford to pay him... so if he's worked out the deal right, I think it's a great move both short-term and long-term. No harder to win in Big West at Minnesota than it was to win in MAC taking over Western Michigan which was arguably the worst school in the conference at the time.

Do we know that there's a favorable buyout clause? Seems like a lot of years and a lot of money. Typically the higher the both of those, the worse the buyout.

Also, I'm not so sure that it will be easier to win at Minn vs WMU. A 10 win season at Minn would mean that you have to knock off some pretty good teams. If you inserted Fleck into last year's, Minnesota team, he would have beaten three of the following to have a 10 win season (PSU, Iowa, Neb, NW and Wisconsin). At WMU, you get get curb stomped by the two BIG teams you play each year and still roll your MAC schedule and get to 10 games and win the conference. In my mind, he was one season away from a big time gig. Now that's more like 2-3 years possibly because of the contract.

Also one nit, Cubit sucked as a coach, but Western has never and will never be the worst school in the conference. They are only three teams with better all time win percentage, they are fourth in titles won and Akron was by far the worst team on the field when Fleck arrived at WMU. I'm sure you just meant that WMU football was sucking when he got there, which is true, but I wouldn't use the term that they were the "worst school in the conference". As their facilities, history and potential will always be pretty solid as far as their position in the MAC.

 

[Irish#1]

If they offer security him getting fired but favorable buyout clauses for him leaving on his own I actually think it makes a lot of sense for him to take the $$$ now. That's about triple what WMU can afford to pay him... so if he's worked out the deal right, I think it's a great move both short-term and long-term. No harder to win in Big West at Minnesota than it was to win in MAC taking over Western Michigan which was arguably the worst school in the conference at the time.

Nobody holds a candle to Eastern Michigan when to comes to worst MAC school.

Bird in the hand? Even if it is Minnesota, it is a B1G school and they have shown in the past that they can field some competitive teams. If he can make the Gophers competitive and get an upset or two, there will always be someone after him.

 

[IrishLion]

Nobody holds a candle to Eastern Michigan when to comes to worst MAC school.

The EMUs actually seem to be in the midst of a decent turnaround in the MAC.

They hadn't won more than 2 games since 2011, and went 1-11 in 2015, but finished 7-6 this year, playing in their first bowl game since 1987(!!!!) and only their second bowl ever.

This is their coach's fourth season, and it seems that they weren't all bad with some veterans in place.

Historically, though, they trash.

 

[dublinirish]

The EMUs actually seem to be in the midst of a decent turnaround in the MAC.

They hadn't won more than 2 games since 2011, and went 1-11 in 2015, but finished 7-6 this year, playing in their first bowl game since 1987(!!!!) and only their second bowl ever.

This is their coach's fourth season, and it seems that they weren't all bad with some veterans in place.

Historically, though, they trash.

they had a previous coach who had to do a sky dive to fund raise so the coach's office could get toilets installed. that tells you a lot about the state of the program lol. Creighton getting them to a bowl game was a huge accomplishment.

 

[Blaise]

Is Les Miles being picky or am I taking crazy pills thinking since he was let go he's been the best available coach by far? Appears to be the backup plan to Fleck at Minnesota? Don't care how much of a up and comer Fleck is, I'd take Miles over him in a heartbeat. I don't get why all these schools are passing on Miles. Is he not listening? Too much money?

I don't think people respect Les coaching ability. They view LSU as a place that owns recruiting in Louisiana.. And he makes weird off the wall game decisions that often cost his team games.. The Mad Hatter nickname isn't always a compliment. He's 63, so maybe 5-6 more years coaching. PJ Fleck is going to save every single player from that team from transferring and can help right the ship. Plus they just won 9 games. If he rights the ship and wins 9 games next year, I think he is just in as good a place as anyone for a higher up gig.

Last time we took a coach from Minnesota.......