Political Correctness thread

[ACamp1900]

Down with male freedom of speech!

That one actually works.

Mine was perfect!!! Who didn't want Marino signing more autographs back in the day... the pretentious, overly protected, prick.

 

[phgreek]

.......the leprechaun is a mythical creature. That's the part that blows my mind. Chief Wahoo = caricature of a race of people. Leprechaun = caricature of something that doesn't exist(?) The grievance industry is pretty funny.

Please explain that to Max Kellerman and that other clown with an opinion Brian Kenny from MLB Network.

I mean I get it if, on the surface, people think "Fighting Irish" is like Warriors or Chiefs or Indians...and I think there is a story to be told that says it isn't...starting here :https://www.nd.edu/features/whats-in-a-name/

But people like consistency that is easy to categorize...so I'm sure this ...what about "Fighting Irish" ...shit will keep coming up.

I think Kellerman and Kenny weighed in because if sports networks no longer have an aggrieved population...apparently whats left to talk about…how does one get a promotion without “signaling”??? These guys, while certainly outdoing most of us financially, are professionally pathetic. They remind me of middle managers in the 80s, who are looking for relevance beyond the tiny little thing they actually contribute. And God forbid they look at their own corporate logos for Disney and MLB.

That damned Mickey Mouse has an interesting past himself, Zip a dee doo da (Song of the South, Walt himself, maybe a little research might tell ya that Ole’ Mickey is likely based upon blackface minstrels). And how ‘bout that MLB logo…MLB says that it is not Killibrew, but given the time of development there is virtually no chance that silhouette used any African American or Dominican influences. And it has had how many updates since 1963? Is it representative of anything but white man’s image for a white man’s game…bunches of African American and Dominican coaches and owners too huh?

What say people focus on their own back yard first...but I suspect the same issue arises there as it does with ND...Mickey is NOW a symbol of equality, diversity, and some ok movies…because Disney is about those things. The MLB logo is a symbol of outreach and civic responsibility, and some good baseball, because MLB is about those things. See how that worked. Its funny how the deeds of the organization remake the image of the mascot, even when its actual appearance is full of derogatory symbology…or does that only work for MLB and Mickey Mouse?

I know that many an autumn Saturday, I must endure extended commercials about the other drunken, disorderly, endeavors demeaning Irish people everywhere…ya know, like curing disease, addressing famine, and housing, etc. "WHAT WOULD YOU FIGHT FOR..." I feel so marginalized as a Fighting Irish fan, and mostly Irish American...thanks Max and Brian...I almost bought into the Bias and "ism". So if the origin of "Fighting Irish" was to have some STUDENTS and FACULTY kick the KKK's ass, what are Max and Brian getting at???? At the time, all involved were not Irish, but proudly, over the years, accepted “fighting Irish” to be about a spirit that leads to the defeat of foe, regardless the odds…hearing familiar chords are we?

Lou does...

 

[IrishLion]

https://apnews.com/a16ae592b8274b2b...ow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=APEastRegion

Richard Spencer cancelled an event at the University of Cincinnati... not because the school told him he was no longer allowed to speak, but because the school was requesting a large security fee from Spencer for the event to mitigate the usual circus that follows him wherever he goes ($11,000).

Reasonable request, or thinly-veiled strategy to get him to cancel?

 

[wizards8507]

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[IrishLax]

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I don't think this is political correctness. I'm not sure what it is -- besides misspellings and a line of logic that doesn't even begin to make sense -- but... yeah.

 

[wizards8507]

I don't think this is political correctness. I'm not sure what it is -- besides misspellings and a line of logic that doesn't even begin to make sense -- but... yeah.

That woman is "famous," such as it is, for founding #OscarsSoWhite and #NoConfederate.

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[greyhammer90]

Strange that in the 90s Blade came out and no one said "finally a black superhero".

 

[connor_in]

Strange that in the 90s Blade came out and no one said "finally a black superhero".

Yeah, Blade never seemed to get much credit for anything . Not for a black superhero or recognition of a successful superhero franchise...and I actually like the third one even tho a majority doesn't seem to.

 

[ACamp1900]

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Mordor is what the world would be had we Scots not occupied so much of the damned English’s time and efforts.....

You’re welcome.

 

[IrishLax]

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For those that missed it, in filming a puff piece for Chinese New Year he gets tongue tied and somehow people hear the word "Chink"... and they're out with pitchforks. It's completely nonsensical. It's also absurd that no one filming/producing the video thought "let's do another take."

Here's the video... he says "NBA Cheen fans in China"... and is getting death threats...
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[ACamp1900]

Not sure where exactly to put this but I immediately thought of Wizards and LAX on this one.. figured this was as good as a place any.

One of the schools I work at had an alleged 'hate incident' last semester. The diversity center has since sent out a dozen or so emails covering it, offering one on one help sessions for anyone dramatized by it, a number of white privilege seminars, a number of educational emails on how hate still exists, I mean all over the place on it. The DA investigated it and turns out it was a false flag incident. Now the diversity office is sending out emails on 'how hard this is to fathom... and how this in no way diminishes the reality of hate in our community and world at large'.... fun times.

 

[greyhammer90]

Not sure where exactly to put this but I immediately thought of Wizards and LAX on this one.. figured this was as good as a place any.

One of the schools I work at had an alleged 'hate incident' last semester. The diversity center has since sent out a dozen or so emails covering it, offering one on one help sessions for anyone dramatized by it, a number of white privilege seminars, a number of educational emails on how hate still exists, I mean all over the place on it. The DA investigated it and turns out it was a false flag incident. Now the diversity office is sending out emails on 'how hard this is to fathom... and how this in no way diminishes the reality of hate in our community and world at large'.... fun times.

I don't know what we expect when there's such a thing as a diversity office. Those people gotta justify the paycheck somehow.

 

[IrishLion]

I don't know what we expect when there's such a thing as a diversity office. Those people gotta justify the paycheck somehow.

We have a "diversity office" on campus where I work, though it's not explicitly called that.

It's actually run really well, and has its hands in a lot of things across campus that are all important. The most important thing, perhaps, is its work with various offices on improving retention of minorities, to ensure that under served student groups are getting the help they need on the road to academic success. They can act as conduit in getting students to the proper services offices based on their unique needs.

It also ensures that minority students stay involved and follow up on opportunities for work-study positions, and ensures that policies are being followed by campus departments in that regard.

They also foster an environment of inclusiveness for our school's LGBTQ population through various initiatives, and ALSO help ensure that campus visitors (aka the crazy bible-thumping dudes that shout at everyone that they're all going to hell) get their say on state property, as well.

I've worked with them directly, so I can say that it's not always about justifying paychecks and putting on airs... if you've got the right staff in place and the support of key faculty, it can make a large, positive impact on campus.

Of course, there is always going to be needless content and the usual unnecessary spin when it comes to certain topics and initiatives. Some of their "diversity training" sessions essentially fall back on "white people do shitty things and need to shut up" depending on who's leading the session.

Other than that, though, they do pretty good work.

 

[SonofOahu]

Yeah, Blade never seemed to get much credit for anything . Not for a black superhero or recognition of a successful superhero franchise...and I actually like the third one even tho a majority doesn't seem to.

I loved the third one. I got your back!

 

[SonofOahu]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Please read. Thank you. <a href="https://t.co/phL6v7Voeb">pic.twitter.com/phL6v7Voeb</a></p>— JJ Redick (@JJRedick) <a href="https://twitter.com/JJRedick/status/965443290324664320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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For those that missed it, in filming a puff piece for Chinese New Year he gets tongue tied and somehow people hear the word "Chink"... and they're out with pitchforks. It's completely nonsensical. It's also absurd that no one filming/producing the video thought "let's do another take."

Here's the video... he says "NBA Cheen fans in China"... and is getting death threats...
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That time someone called Jeremy Lin the "chink in the armor," tho...

That was a world-class "wanna get away" moment.

 

[IrishLax]

Caged gorilla statue called ‘racially insensitive’ will return to Texas park | Fox News

This was some next level PC lol...

 

[NorthDakota]

Caged gorilla statue called ‘racially insensitive’ will return to Texas park | Fox News

This was some next level PC lol...

Thats the kind of stuff that lost 2016 for Dems....jesus

 

[IrishLax]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you blink, you might miss Troy Apke’s 4.35-second 40-yard dash that made Deion Sanders the happiest person on earth. <a href="https://t.co/d8VwjPxqAu">pic.twitter.com/d8VwjPxqAu</a></p>— Roar Lions Roar (@RLRblog) <a href="https://twitter.com/RLRblog/status/970721503812767744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Hahaha this exchange is perfect... Deon is great on TV.

 

[IrishLion]

"You know why I'm surprised. I can't say it on tv, but he can RUN run."

 

[connor_in]

I love woke kids social media.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My 2 yr old daughter Celia just said, "Father, isn't hyperbolic political dialogue that turns every issue into a seemingly existential crisis partially to blame for the breakdown of comity and discourse in public life?"</p>— Comfortably Smug (@ComfortablySmug) <a href="https://twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/984414290038968320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Rogue219]

Thats the kind of stuff that lost 2016 for Dems....jesus

Jesus lost 2016 for Dems?

Never trust a long haired man in sandals, my grandpa always said...

 

[ACamp1900]

Caged gorilla statue called ‘racially insensitive’ will return to Texas park | Fox News

This was some next level PC lol...

That statue is terrible... and what purpose did it serve?? Like, why did they put a caged gorilla in the middle of a play area in a park? I'm so confused...

 

[GowerND11]

That statue is terrible... and what purpose did it serve?? Like, why did they put a caged gorilla in the middle of a play area in a park? I'm so confused...

I believe they originally just had the gorilla statue in the park. Then young kids, as they often do, began to climb on it. There was fear that the kids could cause it to tip over on them while climbing an get hurt. The solution was to put the cage around it to stop kids from climbing...

 

[ACamp1900]

I believe they originally just had the gorilla statue in the park. Then young kids, as they often do, began to climb on it. There was fear that the kids could cause it to tip over on them while climbing an get hurt. The solution was to put the cage around it to stop kids from climbing...

Stranger than fiction.

 

[GowerND11]

Stranger than fiction.

That's a great album

 

[connor_in]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My 6 year old just asked me, “Daddy, why does every Democrat lie about what their 6 year old just asked them?”</p>— Jeremy Frankel (@FrankelJeremy) <a href="https://twitter.com/FrankelJeremy/status/984582854997938176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Whiskeyjack]

John Waters recently published an article in First Things titled "Notes from the Sibling Society":

The “snowflakes” problem is not really a snowflakes problem: It is the result of an absence not so much of adulthood as of grown-ups. There is no reason why young people reared between the 1990s and the present should be dramatically different from previous generations of young people. Nor should there be any dramatic difference between the sensibilities and sensitivities of young people who end up in college and those who leave education early to earn an honest living. Yet something like this is what we are enjoined to believe by the idea that, for no diagnosed reason, the present generation of young people is more umbrageous and high-strung than any that went before.

No. When young people demand to be protected from the content of prescribed texts, protest the invitation of voluble “right-wingers,” or demand the demolition of campus monuments to national heroes, they are merely doing what young people have always done: testing the resolve of their elders and seeking the limits of their tolerance. The problem is not with the students, but with those who are supposed to be in authority over them, who cannot bear to see themselves as elders.

Once upon a time, something like a university was run by men and women in grey suits who set out rules and boundaries for those in their charge. From their offices on the second floor, they looked out on the quadrangle and rapped terrifyingly on the window when observing misbehavior or incivility. Now, it seems, they work with the curtains drawn while their students run amok. This is the snowflakes problem.

The reason for the change is rather simple: Virtually all of those currently running universities in the Western world are products of the 1960s culture of peace, love, dope, and anti-authoritarianism. They are, in the main, the worst kind of people to be running anything requiring even a modicum of authority, having themselves grown up thinking that youth values ought to trump experience, wisdom, and tradition, and that anyone in a suit is a fascist. Their refusal to set limits is at the root of much of the madness currently gripping not only academia but Western culture generally, from gender pronouns to micro-aggression obsession.

Today’s university students seek to apply the most natural and tried method of young people since the time of Cain and Abel, by pushing their elders until someone lets a roar of “Enough!” But the “Enough!” never comes, nor the rapping on the second-floor window, and so the young must choose between effecting a coup d’etat or plunging further into petulance, puerility, and waywardness.

We are now approaching the full-blown stage of a condition first predicted in the early 1960s by the German psychiatrist Alexander Mitscherlich, who in his book Society Without the Father coined the phrase “sibling society.” The symptoms of the sibling society were graphically elaborated by Robert Bly in his 1996 book bearing that title. Bly painted a devastating portrait of cultures obsessed by youth, suspicious of forms of authority that might seek to deprive youth of its “freedoms,” intent upon destroying what Mitscherlich called “vertical” culture. The replacement “horizontal” culture of pop music, movies, television, student-style politics, and—latterly—social media is now cleaved to not just by the young, but by all the generations born since World War II.

The sibling society stands in contrast to what preceded it: the father-organized society in which authority was unafraid to speak or to be despised by the young for so doing. A working definition of authority might be: the capacity to endure unpopularity in the interests of the good. A defining quality of fatherhood through the ages has been a preparedness to be resented. The father was the guarantor and custodian of civilization, and even malcontented youth looked to him for guidance, free to remonstrate in the knowledge that affection would not be withdrawn. The Sixties tore up that Oedipal contract, and now the young look only sideways, and warily: The father is absent or suspect, the state has become a multi-breasted mother, and the hole in the human psyche where the father once manifested is invaded by demons.

In these conditions, it has become unsafe, not to say unfashionable, to argue that there is an essence of good authority, the loss of which promises incalculable damage for the society we plan to bequeath to our children. Collective advancement requires individual renunciation, in turn requiring a strong, safe, generous agent to act as buffer and punchbag. Think of the contrast between the sobriety of the founding fathers and the affable acrobats who occupy the swivel chairs of office in the present. The so-called patriarchal society was tough, straight, straight-talking, and demanding of its citizens, did not waste energy in communication, but made clear, in a minimalist way, what its expectations were. Now the state is “tolerant,” “inclusive,” indulgent, talkative, given to explaining itself in detail, as though mostly longing to be liked.

The role of stoical, authoritarian receptor for society's anger and outrage represented an imperative that has not been replaced, and so the rage of the young flies off in every direction, unfocused and unfathomable—hate biting its own tail. Since there is no longer a father to stand rock solid while his children pummel his greatcoat, the rage threatens to pull everything down. Hence the growing contempt for tradition, wisdom, truth, renunciation, learning, and the resultant hollowing-out of education systems, which no longer challenge or satisfy. Only Jordan Peterson, it seems, remains to calm the malcontents with a pat on the head and a stern admonition to go away and be better.

Since we are now a half-century on from 1968, it may be argued that the cadre of that time is no longer sitting at second-floor desks but is more likely at home reading Richard Dawkins in an attempt to maintain the atheistic certitudes of its youth. And this is almost certainly true of the originators of the revolution. But, as a member of the generation after ’68, I am here to tell you that many in my cohort were even more suspicious of authority than their predecessors, because they carried, in addition to the naturalistic resentments of youth, an additional grievance arising from the fact that they had not been around when the fuse was lit. My own generation, born in the middle 1950s, ought now to be shouting from second-floor windows things like “This is a university, goddammit!” and “Go clean your room!” But my generation, the one that came of age in the 1970s, split into two, becoming either counter-revolutionary due to rumbling the lies of ’68—cleaving to the music but jettisoning the rest—or even more dumbly compliant with the terms of the revolution it had inherited.

Now in the final years of their half-century of cultural domination, these second-string beatniks are doubly dilapidated: They continue to resent the very idea of authority, and themselves lack the authority of ownership of the ideas that define them. They are sad, angry, directionless Peter Pan rebels, who extol the virtues of youth but hide away from the actually existing young, who they hope will complete their revolution before the dreaded number 64 confronts them on a birthday cake. Hence the deafening silence from the second floor.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I'm guessing this is not the same John Waters I was originally thinking of

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[SonofOahu]

I'm guessing this is not the same John Waters I was originally thinking of

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Hahahaha! Right there with you.

 

[IrishLax]

A rare case of someone on the left going far beyond what is "politically correct" -- Fresno State Responds After Professor Calls Barbara Bush 'Amazing Racist,' Says 'I Will Never Be Fired'

It's insane to think of the college administrators and professors who have been ousted for soooooo much less. I will say that I doubt she escapes consequences entirely, even with Fresno State being a public university and her having tenure. Because this is causing a shit storm for them.

Also, it's sort of weird to see the "free speech" right twisting themselves into a hypocritical pretzel here.