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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In the criminal justice system, coconut based offenses are considered especially heinous.<br>In Rome, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious coconuts are members of an elite squad known as the Exlploding Coconut Unit. These are their stories . <br>*gonk, gonk!* <a href="https://t.co/R6clJK2vbx">https://t.co/R6clJK2vbx</a></p>— JOPLMBO (@joplmbo) <a href="https://twitter.com/joplmbo/status/1046786643347349506?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2018</a></blockquote>
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/magazine/baltimore-tragedy-crime.html?comments
Really interesting piece on the other side of "over policing." Baltimore has seen a massive uptick in murders since the neutering of their police department following the Freddie Gray incident. Certainly some food for thought.
Really interesting piece on the other side of "over policing." Baltimore has seen a massive uptick in murders since the neutering of their police department following the Freddie Gray incident. Certainly some food for thought.
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Be careful what you wish for.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Person: "That individual is being racially profiled for being brown."<br><br>Police Officer: "Wow, you are about as ignorant as I've ever met. Oh my God, go do something else. Go have fun. It's Friday night, man. Don't be such an idiot. Put that on your website." <a href="https://t.co/nuyeSTUvVj">pic.twitter.com/nuyeSTUvVj</a></p>— Caleb Hull (@CalebJHull) <a href="https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1120403903374417920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Legend.
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Legend.
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From the Indy Star.
The 10 Point Coalition has been around for several years in Indy. They walk the streets in groups in rough neighborhoods to force those doing bad things to move their base of operations and educate the youth early on. They've worked hand in hand with the police and are seen quite often in PC's with the police. Two members of the police force made comments on FB comparing the 10PC to hoes walking the streets. Both are black and heavily involved with the 10PC. I didn't find anything on CNN, MSNBC or USA Today.
https://www.indystar.com/story/news...loyees-facebook-comment-ten-point/1159395001/
The 10 Point Coalition has been around for several years in Indy. They walk the streets in groups in rough neighborhoods to force those doing bad things to move their base of operations and educate the youth early on. They've worked hand in hand with the police and are seen quite often in PC's with the police. Two members of the police force made comments on FB comparing the 10PC to hoes walking the streets. Both are black and heavily involved with the 10PC. I didn't find anything on CNN, MSNBC or USA Today.
https://www.indystar.com/story/news...loyees-facebook-comment-ten-point/1159395001/
Good podcast relating to this issue. It’s called Running from COPs. Features quality interviews with a number of current and former police officers. Link below.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/running-from-cops-headlong-season-3/id1459118695
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/running-from-cops-headlong-season-3/id1459118695
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A Florida cop has arrested dozens of innocent people after planting drugs in their cars during traffic stops <a href="https://t.co/peWZy8BPm1">pic.twitter.com/peWZy8BPm1</a></p>— In the NOW (@IntheNow_tweet) <a href="https://twitter.com/IntheNow_tweet/status/1145391549812842499?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Example number 870359486730 why no one trusts cops. Dude was dumb enough to get himself caught with his own body cam. The only way to address police issues in this country is transparency... more oversight, more accountability. Body cameras help everyone.
Example number 870359486730 why no one trusts cops. Dude was dumb enough to get himself caught with his own body cam. The only way to address police issues in this country is transparency... more oversight, more accountability. Body cameras help everyone.
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https://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-surveillance-baloons-watching-everything-1452323
Our Dystopia is shaping up nicely
Our Dystopia is shaping up nicely
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can't wait to pick out my new handmaids and marthas.
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This must be perplexing for the gub'ment lovers. On hand, you get to be more tightly controlled and regulated. On the other, it's Trump doing it.
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What are the opinions of racial tensions rising again from this George Floyd situation?
A Police State has reopened Nationally without any complaints until people start rioting...
I already know some won't answer because of the justification of an opinion that Is being censored.
RIP George Floyd.
Times are changing and I'm begging for a reasonable discussion.
A Police State has reopened Nationally without any complaints until people start rioting...
I already know some won't answer because of the justification of an opinion that Is being censored.
RIP George Floyd.
Times are changing and I'm begging for a reasonable discussion.
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The video of Floyd on the ground doesn't show what happened before. We don't know if he'd been cooperating, had resisted arrest, was being restrained from hurting himself or someone else, or what was going on, so we don't have the entire story. That being said, it sure looks like the officer used excessive and unnecessary force and if so, should be arrested and prosecuted. The anger at his treatment and death appears justified. The looting and violence isn't, and is hurting the cause.
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The incident was completely awful, and the officer in question deserves to spend a long time in jail. That said, the looting of Target stores and the call from Kap to riot is bullshit. Target isn't responsible for all of this, it's an excuse for people (People of all color were at fault in videos) to steal. There's no justice being done by the looting and rioting. If they want justice, they should flip cop cars and egg city hall. Hit the government responsible for the officer's training, not the corporate and mom/pop businesses that are innocent.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The slogan “no justice, no peace” is often meant as an implied threat—“if we don’t get justice you can’t have peace.” And that’s regrettable, because really it’s just a statement of fact: Where there is not justice, there is not peace.</p>— Brandon McGinley (@brandonmcg) <a href="https://twitter.com/brandonmcg/status/1265866147330764800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Do we seriously think that if there was a legitimate reason for him to be choked out it wouldn't been leaked by now? If I was the officer or the other officers there, would it not be best to, you know, tell a reporter "Ya this guy had a weapon on him, and was using it against an officer?"
We do know that form restraint was not part of the training for those police. We do know he got his neck crushed, and there were more than enough police officers there to restrain him. We do know that from watching the video that they could have searched for any weapon on him and put cuffs on him.
The anger is justified.
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In this case the cop was wrong and needs to be thrown in jail. Let the law take its course.
These riots tho are terrible and do nothing but hurt the community and reinforce any stereotypes
These riots tho are terrible and do nothing but hurt the community and reinforce any stereotypes
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I'm more than fine with protesting. Looting and burning is just dumb though. If you need to be destructive, go after your local government instead of Targets, small business, and civilian owned property.... And Kap calling for revolt and rioting is shameful. Keep the protest peaceful. Even the Floyd family is calling for calm.
What's ironic is that Minneapolis hasn't had a Republican Mayor since the early 70s. After almost 50 years of liberal/dem/progressive rule, Minneapolis should be a city upon a hill...
The cop needs to go jail for a long time. I'd like to see more vid, but there's no excuse for that type of restraint for a guy not resisting and in cuffs, and is extremely excessive given it's for 8 minutes. Per a buddy who is a sheriff here, that type of restraint technique is more common than you think.
Also, we didn't see rioting a few years ago when an Minneapolis African American cop shot and killed an unarmed white female (that actually was the person to call 911), and when the investigation uncovered that cops purposefully turned off car and body cams after the shooting.
What's ironic is that Minneapolis hasn't had a Republican Mayor since the early 70s. After almost 50 years of liberal/dem/progressive rule, Minneapolis should be a city upon a hill...
The cop needs to go jail for a long time. I'd like to see more vid, but there's no excuse for that type of restraint for a guy not resisting and in cuffs, and is extremely excessive given it's for 8 minutes. Per a buddy who is a sheriff here, that type of restraint technique is more common than you think.
Also, we didn't see rioting a few years ago when an Minneapolis African American cop shot and killed an unarmed white female (that actually was the person to call 911), and when the investigation uncovered that cops purposefully turned off car and body cams after the shooting.
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I've read that he was believed to have been on pcp or another dissociative drug.
I've also read that he threw himself on the ground and resisted getting in the vehicle for over ten minutes.
Having said that, as soon as he started saying that he couldn't breathe, the officer should have let up some.
I wouldn't want to be a cop.
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Drugs will be something we find out after the autopsy, but sounds like BS...
Even if he were on drugs, out of the several vids I've seen, he wasn't acting violent. The guy had cuffs on, was on the ground, and you have 4 or more cops there. No reason to put a knee on a neck.
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I've seen the knee on neck or shoulder blades thing before.
I can understand it to a point on a known violent criminal or someone resisting arrest.
On someone who's not resisting or not suspected of violence I just don't understand why it would be needed.
But I also feel like there has to be a better way to handcuff someone, who isn't resisting or acting violent, besides behind the back.
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Wasn't it in Minneapolis where they shot the guy in the car who had a legal carry permit? Think it was a few years ago.
Did the guy code at the scene or later on? Haven't seen when/where he actually died. Was it while the cop was on him?
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Like I said a little below, a buddy who is a sheriff here said it's a pretty common technique. He also added that there is no need for prolonged restraint like that. Even for violent guys they only do it quickly to get them on their stomach to cuff them. He said after they get him cuffed, a knee on the mid back is more than enough to keep them down. In this case, it's reported the guy kept his knee on his neck for 8 minutes.
Yup, 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Philando_Castile#Trial_and_verdict
I'm pretty sure he lost consciousness and died while the cop was on him. When the paramedics arrived, he had no pulse.
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There was a video of Him sitting up against the store front. One of the officers helped him up by the arm and it looked like they were having a conversation. Then the walk towards the cops suv and the video stops. But he wasn’t being unruly in that part of the video. However sitting with your knee in someone’s neck for that long is incredibly dumb. This is an easy case for the states attorney to bring up charges in my mind. If he said I can’t breathe and took his knee out of his neck and put it in his lower back we wouldn’t even be talking about this and he would still be alive. These cops made everyone in blue look really bad even though 99.5 percent of them are good.
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Like the prosecutor said...we gotta see what was going on here. Everyone wants this shit done immediately but I'm guessing it's not that easy.
Minneapolis is very liberal but idk...you can make a pro-police and anti-police argument for both left and right leaning folks. Hopefully justice is served whether that means he is charged or not. It sure didnt look good but I'm not a big fan of calling people murderers generally.