Pandemonium at 4HL over Tee Tweets

[Junkhead]

The way I read it is he was already accepted by ND. But not cleared by the NCAA. Online courses would be to fulfill NCAA requirements, not ND admissions.

I'm no expert in this area, but aren't ND requirements much stricter than those of the NCAA?

 

[dshans]

4am is late when u got 6-7am workouts then class lol.

Unless he went to sleep at 10 PM and got up early to handle a few social media things before starting his day.

Just sayin'.

 

[returnofthemack]

I'm no expert in this area, but aren't ND requirements much stricter than those of the NCAA?

This is what confused me as well. Especially for an EE

 

[Grahambo]

To the extent a player graduates high school early...gets into Notre Dame of all places...then leaves....doubt it.

Most are saying its his ACT score. BGIF was saying it before anybody else. Maybe thats just part of it and not the only thing. It's dangerous territory suggesting there's more if you don't know the story.

 

[Irish#1]

Isn't relevant, today.

Yes, Moriarty was a JUCO transfer in 1979 and the only JUCO to do so.

• There was no 85 scholarship limit then. It was more like 125 then.
• I don't believe the NCAA 5 year clock to play 4 was in place as Moriarty graduated HS in '75 (was born in '58).
• He sat out 3 years between HS graduation and JUCO due to injuries and illness (mono? or something similar). He was a very good student. Went to Santa Barbara City College for a year and transferred into ND. Moriarty was older than most ND Seniors when he arrived on campus. He would have had one year of eligibility when he arrived at ND by present rules.
• ND was in the early stages of the Hesburgh/Malloy quest to be the Princeton/Stanford of the Midwest. ND Admissions was not as tough as the past decade nor was the Student Body as Academically Talented.
• I don't know if ND had the required Freshman Year of Studies Program in place. This academic program effectively bars most JUCOs from transferring. Most JUCOs go that route for Remedial Work to correct HS shortcomings so most of their JUCO work is not transferrable to ND.

Moriarity was a tough SOB FB. He was a load and hard to bring down.

 

[stlnd01]

Late to this thread, but didn't Tee visit several west coast schools (and maybe even Oklahoma) this spring after leaving ND?
If he's not heading to any of them, that would seem to suggest that his problem is at the level of NCAA qualifications - as in test scores - no?
Also, if anything, I can see how we'd admit an EE with subpar test scores in the hopes that he can bring them up by fall semester, when his normal academic class would be entering. What I don't get in this situation is why the trigger got pulled so quickly that he had to leave before spring practice.
Regardless, would be great if he can find his way back. Wouldn't hold my breath on it, though.

 

[NDFAN22]

Let me start off by suing that I would take this guy back in a heartbeat. That being said I have heard of some seriously weird things that went on with him at Notre Dame while he was there. As in the things creepy people do and is just weird. Again I'm not saying this is why he left or anything. Just throwing it out there that some people close to ND know about this and could of played a part.

 

[woolybug25]

Let me start off by suing that I would take this guy back in a heartbeat. That being said I have heard of some seriously weird things that went on with him at Notre Dame while he was there. As in the things creepy people do and is just weird. Again I'm not saying this is why he left or anything. Just throwing it out there that some people close to ND know about this and could of played a part.

This is a bad post.

 

[NDFAN22]

How is that a bad post? It's factual info regarding a player?

 

[woolybug25]

How is that a bad post? It's factual info regarding a player?

Since the "creepy" stuff he was doing is fact, I suppose you can back it up with sources?

Or let me guess.... you heard it from people that know...




Saying that he was doing "weird" and "creepy" things make you sound weird and creepy.

 

[ACamp1900]

This whole dialogue gives me the creeps... I feel weirded out by it....

 

[woolybug25]

This whole dialogue gives me the creeps... I feel weirded out by it....

NDFan22 asked me if your sister was dating anybody...

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

@ItsTeeShepard: #TeamGetThatAssBackToND

 

[ThePiombino]

@ItsTeeShepard: #TeamGetThatAssBackToND

God, I hope he's being sincere, but I just can't help but feel that I'm being trolled.

 

[NDFAN22]

Yes I do have a source way closer to ND recruiting this specific year than you guys do. He is in contact with coaches there quite often. And no I'm not going to say his name because I would like to keep him as a source. I'm just telling the facts the way they are and not going into specifics because it's not right to do. I thought I would give some legitimate info on here.

 

[Irishman77]

Yes I do have a source way closer to ND recruiting this specific year than you guys do. He is in contact with coaches there quite often. And no I'm not going to say his name because I would like to keep him as a source. I'm just telling the facts the way they are and not going into specifics because it's not right to do. I thought I would give some legitimate info on here.

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[NDFAN22]

And one last thing I am new around here with the info because my source just got involved in the recruiting scene this year. Also, again I'm
Not saying it is the reason but let's remember neither party came out officially saying what happened and my reasons could play a factor into that. Again I'm just trying to give some 100% legitimate info not beig weird just putting facts out there while protecting my sources names. You guys don't have to believe me at all, it doesn't matter to me really, just trying to give ND fans some scoop on some news

 

[Rhode Irish]

And one last thing I am new around here with the info because my source just got involved in the recruiting scene this year. Also, again I'm Not saying it is the reason but let's remember neither party came out officially saying what happened and my reasons could play a factor into that. Again I'm just trying to give some 100% legitimate info not beig weird just putting facts out there while protecting my sources names. You guys don't have to believe me at all, it doesn't matter to me really, just trying to give ND fans some scoop on some news

You're really not coming with any "info" though. You're just throwing out some innuendo. And since you don't have a track record, you can't name your source (which I don't blame you for), and your "info" contains zero specifics, you're really just contributing noise. You have to understand that anyone could come on here and claim to have a source and dish some vague "info" and we have no way of determining what is legit and what isn't. So don't get all offended. Maybe you do have a source that is plugged in, and maybe you don't. But from where I'm sitting I have no way of figuring that out.

 

[irishog77]

Let me start off by suing that I would take this guy back in a heartbeat. That being said I have heard of some seriously weird things that went on with him at Notre Dame while he was there. As in the things creepy people do and is just weird. Again I'm not saying this is why he left or anything. Just throwing it out there that some people close to ND know about this and could of played a part.

And one last thing I am new around here with the info because my source just got involved in the recruiting scene this year. Also, again I'm
Not saying it is the reason but let's remember neither party came out officially saying what happened and my reasons could play a factor into that. Again I'm just trying to give some 100% legitimate info not beig weird just putting facts out there while protecting my sources names. You guys don't have to believe me at all, it doesn't matter to me really, just trying to give ND fans some scoop on some news

You may very well be right about this. But your "claim," at least as you presented it, is NOT "100% legitimate" nor "facts."

It is vague innuendo, nothing more.

 

[woolybug25]

And one last thing I am new around here with the info because my source just got involved in the recruiting scene this year. Also, again I'm
Not saying it is the reason but let's remember neither party came out officially saying what happened and my reasons could play a factor into that. Again I'm just trying to give some 100% legitimate info not beig weird just putting facts out there while protecting my sources names. You guys don't have to believe me at all, it doesn't matter to me really, just trying to give ND fans some scoop on some news

Dude, you just started posting here and come at us with the assertion that Tee has done "creepy" and "weird" things. You don't say what those things are, who told you, or why should believe a d@mn word you say. No one on here knows you from Joe. So if you expect us to blindly believe in your slanderous comments about an 18 year old kid, then you are mistaken.

If you thought this site was about bashing recruits with unconformable information, then you in the the wrong forum, my man. We deal with facts here.

PS - There are plenty of insiders on this board with close ties to the players, coaches and administration. There are people on here that work within the athletic department and people far more in the know than you. Let me guess. You are a freshman at ND and one of your buddies is friends with a football player? You don't know the first d@mn thing about who is on this board. You are a niave newbie that didn't even waste 10 posts before you started saying slanderous comments about a recruit without having ANYTHING to back it up.

So no... we aren't going to just trust your word. We earn our respect around these parts.

 

[woolybug25]

Thank you for posting. I love this site but it seems the ones with the info get run off. Hang in there...

Get real. I have been on this board for many years and have seen "insiders" come and go. Despite that, I don't think there has been a single day since I joined where there wasn't all the insider info you could possibly ask for on here.

People act like someone can be an insider forever. Most people that claim to be an "insider" are just people that have a bunch of pay site subscriptions, possibly attending the University or have a couple friends on the team. That's why they come and go.


True "insiders" get paid for it.... period...

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Coming to the site with real info = welcome aboard

Coming to the site with cryptic messages void of substance = "look at me!!!!"

 

[Emcee77]

Let me start off by suing that I would take this guy back in a heartbeat. That being said I have heard of some seriously weird things that went on with him at Notre Dame while he was there. As in the things creepy people do and is just weird. Again I'm not saying this is why he left or anything. Just throwing it out there that some people close to ND know about this and could of played a part.

How is that a bad post? It's factual info regarding a player?

Irishog said it already, but I just want to emphasize that there are no facts in the above posts. "I have heard of some seriously weird things" is not a fact. At best it hints at a fact. As I've said before, I don't really have a problem with passing along rumors, as long as people tell us exactly what they've heard so we can evaluate for ourselves how much credence to give them. (jimmymac, for example, is excellent at this. I want to hear what he is hearing on campus, as long as he is honest about what he knows for sure and what he has merely heard, and he always is honest about this.) What does bother me is passing off rumors as fact, which is what is going on in this thread right now.

 

[PANDFAN]

Get real. I have been on this board for many years and have seen "insiders" come and go. Despite that, I don't think there has been a single day since I joined where there wasn't all the insider info you could possibly ask for on here.

People act like someone can be an insider forever. Most people that claim to be an "insider" are just people that have a bunch of pay site subscriptions, possibly attending the University or have a couple friends on the team. That's why they come and go.


True "insiders" get paid for it.... period...

preacher speaks the truth and it hurts! excellent post my man!!!

 

[Cackalacky]

That being said I have heard of some seriously weird things that went on with him at Notre Dame while he was there. As in the things creepy people do and is just weird. Again I'm not saying this is why he left or anything. Just throwing it out there that some people close to ND know about this and could of played a part.

 

[tadman95]

Irishog said it already, but I just want to emphasize that there are no facts in the above posts. "I have heard of some seriously weird things" is not a fact. At best it hints at a fact. As I've said before, I don't really have a problem with passing along rumors, as long as people tell us exactly what they've heard so we can evaluate for ourselves how much credence to give them. (jimmymac, for example, is excellent at this. I want to hear what he is hearing on campus, as long as he is honest about what he knows for sure and what he has merely heard, and he always is honest about this.) What does bother me is passing off rumors as fact, which is what is going on in this thread right now.

I appreciate the point you guys are making but if posting things about "hearing things" about "weird and creepy behavior" is slanderous, then surely posting the details would be more so, wouldn't it? Also, I don't think identifying the source would not be very bright either.

There are many posts like this throughout these threads. If the source and the details are a requirement, then these threads would be shorter. Maybe his post was best not made, but surely we can PM our objections.

I can say this, I wouldn't want to know the details.

 

[Emcee77]

I appreciate the point you guys are making but if posting things about "hearing things" about "weird and creepy behavior" is slanderous, then surely posting the details would be more so, wouldn't it? Also, I don't think identifying the source would not be very bright either.

There are many posts like this throughout these threads. If the source and the details are a requirement, then these threads would be shorter. Maybe his post was best not made, but surely we can PM our objections.

I can say this, I wouldn't want to know the details.

Of course sometimes you can't identify your source, or your source will stop giving you info. I understand that, and should have said so. All I mean is
a) if you are passing along a rumor, be honest about it, and don't claim that it's a fact, and
b) don't pass along rumors that are so vague as to contain no information at all. "Weird and creepy stuff happened" is a complete nothing post.

 

[connor_in]

OK...so we got 21 pages and just about as many spats and very little info...#recap

Tee seemed to list that he wanted to come back via instagram...has had some tweets with players and a new one today also on the subject...so it looks like he does have interest to come back.

HOWEVER from everything I see here we only have strong rumors and lightly believed rumors about why for sure he left.

AND we have no information whatsoever as to whether coaches/admin are doing anything to try to bring him back at ths time?

Did I get this recap right or miss anything of relevance on the topic? (This really is.my question and not meant as snark/argument fodder)

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[tadman95]

First, Dshans, I see and admit to my grammatical error in my earlier post. My humble apologies!

Emcee77, I guess I read his post a little differently but I read it as passing along what he heard which is and of itself, a rumor. JMHO

And I'm glad it was vague. Look, I'm not disagreeing so much, just think there are a similar posts that don't seem to draw this much attention. (of, course I'm not adding to it am I ? LOL)

 

[Old Man Mike]

Every time someone wishes to make a remark for which they believe there is a substantive foundation, they should stop just for a moment and ask two questions of themselves at a minimum:

1). Does this remark have "credibility"? If so, can I in any reasonable way, transmit to readers why it has credibility so that they might accept such a claim as having some validity. If I cannot in any way transmit anything which accomplishes even a shadow of this support, then maybe I should remain quiet on the claim until I can do so.

2). Does the remark contain any actual information beyond what is already known, and is that information within the best interests of IE and Notre Dame? In other words, the remark should have clear substance ["brings something real/concrete to the table" --- and even innuendos in the right circumstances can do this] which does not leave the claim wide open to almost unlimited interpretation, which is no interpretation at all in the final analysis. And, although some differ about this: I believe that some circumspection should be maintained about how certain sorts of remarks [especially of an unprovable hypothetical nature] might negatively affect Notre Dame recruiting, Notre Dame current athletes and their families, and just common human dignity in general.

None of the above has to be applied to the post discussed above, and that is anyone's judgement. My own judgement on the post is that it could not be clearly supported in any way due to the poster's sensitivity towards his source [understandable and honorable], and therefore, since there is no definable substance in the "information" and a word "weird" used in a way that is open to the wildest out-of-control speculations, that the post should not have been made as it was until something more delimited could be said.

Hopefully the poster will return to source and get more information and the go-ahead to be more specific. If the additional information serves to seriously slander the young man involved, however, I for my part would be extremely judicious in what I said publicly.