National Recruiting Thread

[koonja]

Elite 2016 pass-rusher clears the air on rumors, plans to announce choice this week

Sci Martin - verbaled to TCU, opted not to sign, from New Orleans. Will sign tomorrow between TCU, LSU and Alabama (room?)

GK, speaking of exaggerated headliners, a consensus 3-star DE is now elite?

 

[T Town Tommy]

Elite 2016 pass-rusher clears the air on rumors, plans to announce choice this week

Sci Martin - verbaled to TCU, opted not to sign, from New Orleans. Will sign tomorrow between TCU, LSU and Alabama (room?)

Thinking LSU. His mother has health issues from what I have read so staying closer to home may be the thought process with the delay on NSD and the fact that LSU seems to be trending. Guess we will know tomorrow.

 

[T Town Tommy]

GK, speaking of exaggerated headliners, a consensus 3-star DE is now elite?

He had an insane amount of sacks in his high school career. Don't know if that makes him elite or not but he apparently has some serious upside. Wish him well wherever he lands.

 

[gkIrish]

GK, speaking of exaggerated headliners, a consensus 3-star DE is now elite?

Journalistic integrity doesn't exist anymore.

 

[Irish#1]

Journalistic integrity doesn't exist anymore.

It never has when it comes to recruiting and publishing on the internet. People tend to forget this isn't the NBC Nightly News or the Wall Street Journal.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

National Recruiting Thread

Griffin Alstott, son of Mike Alstott, commits to Purdue:

 

[Whiskeyjack]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Excited for more parents to experience ND! NCAA adopting proposal to pay for parents/guardians travel on Official Visits is a big deal.☘</p>— Aaryn Kearney (@aarynkearney) <a href="https://twitter.com/aarynkearney/status/719668106101145600">April 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[koonja]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Excited for more parents to experience ND! NCAA adopting proposal to pay for parents/guardians travel on Official Visits is a big deal.☘</p>— Aaryn Kearney (@aarynkearney) <a href="https://twitter.com/aarynkearney/status/719668106101145600">April 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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This is actually a rule that helps ND more than almost any other school IMO. I can't even think of another school you could argue would benefit from this as much as ND.

 

[BobbyMac]

This is actually a rule that helps ND more than almost any other school IMO. I can't even think of another school you could argue would benefit from this as much as ND.

You have to put Stanford in there since every player they recruit that's not in the Bay or Sac is a loooong way away. LA is the closest major area to Palo Alto and it's the equivalent of South Bend to Pittsburgh.

 

[koonja]

You have to put Stanford in there since every player they recruit that's not in the Bay or Sac is a loooong way away. LA is the closest major area to Palo Alto and it's the equivalent of South Bend to Pittsburgh.

That's the obvious choice, but where do you get a better 'family' feel, ND or Stanford? I imagine the general public around Stanford campus being a bit more highty tighty.

That's an assumption though...

 

[Luckylucci]

This is actually a rule that helps ND more than almost any other school IMO. I can't even think of another school you could argue would benefit from this as much as ND.

Without getting into who it benefits the most, I'll agree that its very good for ND. Any team that recruits nationally will benefit from this and certainly ND is a school that does.

 

[BobbyMac]

That's the obvious choice, but where do you get a better 'family' feel, ND or Stanford? I imagine the general public around Stanford campus being a bit more highty tighty.

That's an assumption though...

I don't think anyone wows the parents with intangibles like ND. Stanford has it's own things which are very powerful but it lacks the spiritual component obviously.

 

[longliveautrydenson]

An underrated point, it's harder to woo recruits with strippers and cash when the parents are around. Unless the parents are also fans of stripper and cash, in which case you've probably already committed to Rick Pitino.

 

[PANDFAN]

An underrated point, it's harder to woo recruits with strippers and cash when the parents are around. Unless the parents are also fans of stripper and cash, in which case you've probably already committed to Rick Pitino.

A big part of Sentreal's decision making process in his recruitment revolved around his dad's desire to make a rap album. I believe the thinking was he would be able to better advance his rap career in LA or Miami, and that is why USC and UM were his final 2 options. There may have also been something about his dad having a connection or offer or something with people to help him produce the album in Miami.

so yeah, it happens...cam newton's dad was preacher

 

[longliveautrydenson]

A big part of Sentreal's decision making process in his recruitment revolved around his dad's desire to make a rap album. I believe the thinking was he would be able to better advance his rap career in LA or Miami, and that is why USC and UM were his final 2 options. There may have also been something about his dad having a connection or offer or something with people to help him produce the album in Miami.

so yeah, it happens...cam newton's dad was preacher

It definitely happens, I got a strong "show me the money" vibe from Rashan Gary's mom last cycle. That being said, the kids whose parents & guardians are in it to profit off their children are already not going to choose ND. There are, however, kids with good parents who visit schools unattended and likely get sucked into the seedy underworld of recruiting w/out their parents' supervision. If this rule prevents that from happening to a few kids a year, we stand to benefit.

 

[DCirishfan]

why does it seem we are having such a hard time with 5 stars?

 

[BobbyMac]

why does it seem we are having such a hard time with 5 stars?

It's tough to play school when everyone's telling you you'll be at ______ State U for just 3 years and banking on Sundays from there on out. There are actually a lot of 5 star guys that I'll agree don't need the extra load that ND or a Stanford places on their plate but then there are guys like 5-10 Tate Martell that needs to get his head out of his azz and forget A&M. He needs a degree...and not just a degree because you can get a great education at about 80% of P5 schools, he needs to be at a school that will allow him to get that degree as there are a lot of places who don't hold you accountable in the classroom, they just make sure you are eligible. If they have 70 players majoring in interdisciplinary studies with a 2.2 GPA, they don't care.

Another thing is the staff. I think the Class of '18 is going to be the first class the post Alford / Cooks staff is going to be on equal footing as they are established and have been working '18's class as hard and as early as anyone. ND has been too late to the party all too often in the past.

 

[koonja]

On a 247 QU of why ND is not pursuing Dandre Swift.

Loy: "The staff should have kept pursuing John Reid when it had the chance. The staff stopped recruiting him and chose to pursue Ykili Ross. Not a good choice, obviously because he chose USC, but additionally because they could have and would have landed Reid. When the staff stopped recruiting Reid it didn't sit well with the staff at St. Joseph's Prep. No shot with Swift at that point."

 

[Sherm Sticky]

On a 247 QU of why ND is not pursuing Dandre Swift.

Loy: "The staff should have kept pursuing John Reid when it had the chance. The staff stopped recruiting him and chose to pursue Ykili Ross. Not a good choice, obviously because he chose USC, but additionally because they could have and would have landed Reid. When the staff stopped recruiting Reid it didn't sit well with the staff at St. Joseph's Prep. No shot with Swift at that point."

Ugh and I was never a big Ross fan like most were on this site.


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[dad4aa]

On a 247 QU of why ND is not pursuing Dandre Swift.

Loy: "The staff should have kept pursuing John Reid when it had the chance. The staff stopped recruiting him and chose to pursue Ykili Ross. Not a good choice, obviously because he chose USC, but additionally because they could have and would have landed Reid. When the staff stopped recruiting Reid it didn't sit well with the staff at St. Joseph's Prep. No shot with Swift at that point."

Pretty sad if stopping the recruitment of a kid early in the process keeps you out the door but pulling the scholarship offer a few days before signing day or grey shirting after signing does not keep you out (Michigan, OSU, Bama, etc.)

 

[NDdomer2]

Thought ykili ross went to Colorado after everyone pulled schollies due to his unbelievable Twitter posting. Or am I mixing names?

 

[Irish#1]

It's tough to play school when everyone's telling you you'll be at ______ State U for just 3 years and banking on Sundays from there on out. There are actually a lot of 5 star guys that I'll agree don't need the extra load that ND or a Stanford places on their plate but then there are guys like 5-10 Tate Martell that needs to get his head out of his azz and forget A&M. He needs a degree...and not just a degree because you can get a great education at about 80% of P5 schools, he needs to be at a school that will allow him to get that degree as there are a lot of places who don't hold you accountable in the classroom, they just make sure you are eligible. If they have 70 players majoring in interdisciplinary studies with a 2.2 GPA, they don't care.

Another thing is the staff. I think the Class of '18 is going to be the first class the post Alford / Cooks staff is going to be on equal footing as they are established and have been working '18's class as hard and as early as anyone. ND has been too late to the party all too often in the past.

Definitely early with a lot of '18 kids. I think the staff did a good job getting in early with the class of '17 and have been getting better and better, every year BK has been here. I think he found out his approach to recruiting that he used at UC wasn't going to cut it. IMO, BK found he needed to re-engineer his recruiting program if he was going to be a top ten team year in and year out.

 

[koonja]

Thought ykili ross went to Colorado after everyone pulled schollies due to his unbelievable Twitter posting. Or am I mixing names?

No, Ykili Ross will be lighting us up this November.

You're thinking of Yuri Wright.

 

[Meatloaf]

On a 247 QU of why ND is not pursuing Dandre Swift.

Loy: "The staff should have kept pursuing John Reid when it had the chance. The staff stopped recruiting him and chose to pursue Ykili Ross. Not a good choice, obviously because he chose USC, but additionally because they could have and would have landed Reid. When the staff stopped recruiting Reid it didn't sit well with the staff at St. Joseph's Prep. No shot with Swift at that point."

Add to the fact that,IIRC, Ross wouldn't have ended up qualifying for ND anyway, and you have one of the more bone headed moves by the staff.

That said, even if we were pursuing Swift, he wouldn't end up at ND based on what I've heard. Source: SJP grad with buddies who are currently assistant coaches.

 

[koonja]

Not taking Reid is the biggest WTF for me by the staff. Great kid and student by all accounts, top 50 player in the country according to some analysts, and wanted into ND.

 

[tussin]

I know the staff at St. Joe's Prep... no ill-will towards ND.

 

[woolybug25]

I know the staff at St. Joe's Prep... no ill-will towards ND.

but...but...but... Loy said...

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

It is difficult to accept that we could've potentially had Reid and Damar Hamlin added to the secondary class. Of course, the staff has likely developed a blueprint for keeping the roster stocked and it appears they are sticking with it.

Still love our secondary class.

 

[NDinL.A.]

but...but...but... Loy said...

LOL...no shit.

If a staff actually did that simply because ND stopped recruiting their athlete, not only would it be bush-league and childish, but it would do damage to their current and future athletes as well. I would understand if ND pulled a Harbaugh and pulled a kid's scholly right before NSD just so they could accept a higher ranked kid's commitment, but that wasn't the case here.

Sounds like tussin's buddy is refuting that though, which makes way more sense.

 

[calvegas04]

Pretty sweet video, until he picks a shitty school at the end

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