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This country elected Donald Trump so I'm not too worried about what some random people you work with think. ;)

I just asked those same people who they voted for. Everyone one of them told me they voted for.............
 

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You lost me there. Just for fun I did a quick pole of 23 people at work. Some young (20's early 30's) most mid 30's to early 50's. Some women, some men. It was close to a 50/50 split but probably a few more women then men. I asked two questions in this order without providing any comment after each question:

1. Do you watch Die Hard during the Christmas season?
2. Do you consider Die Hard a Christmas movie?

Not one said they watched Die Hard every Christmas season or even thought about it. Only four said they thought it could be considered a Christmas movie and they thought it was on the fringe at best. One did say it was a Christmas movie.

We can't help the fact that you work with a bunch of freak shows!
 

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You lost me there. Just for fun I did a quick pole of 23 people at work. Some young (20's early 30's) most mid 30's to early 50's. Some women, some men. It was close to a 50/50 split but probably a few more women then men. I asked two questions in this order without providing any comment after each question:

1. Do you watch Die Hard during the Christmas season?
2. Do you consider Die Hard a Christmas movie?

Not one said they watched Die Hard every Christmas season or even thought about it. Only four said they thought it could be considered a Christmas movie and they thought it was on the fringe at best. One did say it was a Christmas movie.

The people you work with sound lame. The night before Christmas Eve. Every. Single. Year.
 
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Best XMAS film - National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation 100%. A Christmas Story is second for me. I love Die Hard and Bad Santa as well. I watched the trailer for Bad Santa 2 and it looks lame as most sequels are.

Best movie I've seen this year - Hell or High Water, a movie about two brothers in small town Texas on a bank robbery spree. Fury was a very close second in my opinion.
 

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All I know is this, anyone who says Die Hard isn't a Christmas movie better not find themselves in a spot where they need a kidney and I'm the only match... I ain't wasting a kidney on that shit.
 

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All I know is this, anyone who says Die Hard isn't a Christmas movie better not find themselves in a spot where they need a kidney and I'm the only match... I ain't wasting a kidney on that shit.



It's 100% a Christmas movie, along with Gremlins.
 

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For me, the top 5 is:

1) Die Hard
2) Home Alone
3) Christmas Vacation
4) A Christmas Story
5a) Elf
5b) White Christmas
5c) Home Alone 2
 

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Die Hard was just put to the test, as was I:

Wife: let's watch a Christmas movie

Me: ok I'll put die hard on

Wife: that's not a Christmas movie

Me: I want a divorce......
 

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Ok...favorite version of A Christmas Carol?

Me...

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Mickey's... then Scrooged... I'm a kid at heart on that one....
 

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All I know is this, anyone who says Die Hard isn't a Christmas movie better not find themselves in a spot where they need a kidney and I'm the only match... I ain't wasting a kidney on that shit.

All I know is this, anyone who says Die Hard is a Christmas movie isn't donating any organs to me. I'd rather die hard first.

Die Hard was just put to the test, as was I:

Wife: let's watch a Christmas movie

Me: ok I'll put die hard on

Wife: that's not a Christmas movie

Me: I want a divorce......

You're wife is a very smart lady. Hang onto her.
 

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Ok...favorite version of A Christmas Carol?

Me...

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This is the one that I grew up with, so my vote goes here
 

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Ok...favorite version of A Christmas Carol?

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Absolutely insane production values and music. It's practically a broadway show. Best 3rd Act "celebration of becoming a nice guy" bar none. Plus Jacob Marley is played by Obi Wan Kenobi!? You can't get any better.
 

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Just saw Assassin's Creed.

The first half is exactly what you think it's gonna be: a confusing take on a video game franchise, that at times struggles to balance a fragmented character backstory with explaining the basic parameters of the idea behind the game/story.

Fassbender's character kind of has a funky development, but it makes a bit more sense as things unfold. Not executed well, but I understand what they were doing and why it had to be that way.

I really like the way they handled the Assassins/Templars, as well as the Animus... I could see the game incorporating the movie's animus technology at some point as a tie-in, if they have plans for anything like that.

The visuals were great and very true to the first game. Abstergo's HQ atmosphere from the first game was captured very well in the movie's version of Abstergo, based simply on colors, lighting and room furnishings. The historical visuals were excellent, and they provided some overhead views of the "past" that were a nice call to the idea of "viewpoints" from the games. Even the action, including both the climbing and the fighting, was true to the game without being too terribly cheesy or oversaturated.

Once the movie got past the basic premise of "memories in DNA," the idea of accessing them via "animus," and why certain DNA was needed in the first place, it went from being an explanation/take on the game's over-arching story and became it's own thing, and that's when it actually became a pretty good movie.

There is a cool scene with Fassbender that kind of represents this shift that I thought was done well, with several layers of symbolism as to what was happening.

I think critics were destined to rate the movie very poorly no matter what, considering what it is and what it's based on, and the fact that there is inherent cheesiness that can't be avoided.

However, if the critics had experience with the games, they might have recognized the symbolism and detachment that the movie creates at about the 2/3 mark, and would have a better appreciation for a disjointed film that becomes a pretty good action/mystery/conspiracy story late in the game.

The final third of the movie saved it for me, and I actually really liked what they did, even though it all turns out to be a setup for a movie franchise.
 

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In Naples for the holidays and had a crazy overcast day today.... So veg'd and watched Dr. Strange and Inferno. Watched The Magnificent 7 last night and re-watched Hell or High Water the night before. Watched Sully last week with the GF.

Dr. Strange - 3.5/5 stars. Not a huge Marvels fan but enjoyed it. I'm sure he'll be in several Marvel combo movies coming up. Wished they would have spent a little more time on him before the accident.

Mag 7 - 3.5/5 stars. Not as good as the original but entertaining. Big Denzel fan. Not one of his best, but good action. D'Onofiro was my favorite and Pratt was pretty decent. Sarsgard pretty decent but didn't see a lot of him except for the first 15 and last 20 dodging bullets.

Inferno 3/5 stars. Big Hanks fan. Entertaining, but not one of his best. I'm being generous with the 3 stars. Not near the symbolism in this one either. Wish we saw more of Ben Foster.

Sully - 3.5/5 stars. Better than Inferno, but was a bit bored. Liked the last 30 minutes and flashbacks, but overall just an OK movie with good acting.

Hell or Highwater - 4.75/5 stars - great stuff. Was not what I expected. Second time watching so I was able to enjoy it a bit more. Foster was awesome. Pine very good. Bridges good, but sometimes got a little lost in his banter. Had some exceptional moments though like when he shot Xxxx, and at the end with Pine.

Arrival - 4/5 stars. 4 is generous. Enjoyed it a few weeks ago... great acting. Like the ending but overall expected more after all the hype...


Sunny tomorrow so hoping not a lot of movies in my future (at least during the day). Hoping to find Nocturnal Animals in HD on Kodi tonight. Have to wait a bit for a decent Rogue One or Manchester by Sea.

Thanks Kingbish01 for the Kodi directions.
 
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Dude. Brutal Hell or High Water spoiler. As someone really looking forward to this film, I hope you delete that last sentence
 

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Dude. Brutal Hell or High Water spoiler. As someone really looking forward to this film, I hope you delete that last sentence

Don't worry, it doesn't spoil the ending. Definitely not what you're expecting.
 

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Dude. Brutal Hell or High Water spoiler. As someone really looking forward to this film, I hope you delete that last sentence

Sorry Wooly. Xxx'd it yesterday.

What's Kodi?

It's an app you you can load to an Amazon Fire stick/tv or Apple TV that searches the interwebz for movies.

Don't worry, it doesn't spoil the ending. Definitely not what you're expecting.

Yup, but still bad form on my part. I was just typing away and spaced it. I hope they have a part two to illustrate who gives who "peace"

Do you guys use a VPN for Kodi?

Nope
 

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Watched Deep Water Horizon last night. 3.25/5 stars
F'ing BP.... Interesting and entertaining, but not a must see.
Could have used some more Kate Hudson hotness. Markie Mark and Russel were solid.
Malkovich was underutilized.
 

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For me, the top 5 is:

1) Die Hard
2) Home Alone
3) Christmas Vacation
4) A Christmas Story
5a) Elf
5b) White Christmas
5c) Home Alone 2

A list like this should clue people in that "Die Hard" is not a Christmas movie. It's very much "one of these kids is doing the wrong thing; one of these kids just isn't the same."
 

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You could literally say that for any Christmas flick. The parents could have went on Spring Break in Home Alone. Christmas Vacation could have been during Thanksgiving. A Christmas Sory could have been a Jewish family in Manhatten and titled A Hannakuh Story.

It's not the same thing. Changing the Christmas plot points in "Die Hard" would not drastically change the movie. You'd be talking about minor changes that will still result in the same fundamental film. The movies you listed would become completely different films with different titles and different storylines.
 

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It's not the same thing. Changing the Christmas plot points in "Die Hard" would not drastically change the movie. You'd be talking about minor changes that will still result in the same fundamental film. The movies you listed would become completely different films with different titles and different storylines.

Bullshit!!!!!! Die Hard would not be the same thing at all without, "Now I have a machine gun, ho, ho, ho."

Completely. Different. Film.

:)


Seriously though, my fav two X Mas films are It's a Wonderful Life, and Die Hard...

neither of those films have to be set at Christmas, either one could be something else... but they are set at Christmas and they are Christmas movies.

I mean the fact that literally millions of people have it as one of their fav Christmas movies, and watch it every year at this time says something.

Funny side: I swear I was way ahead of the curve on this thing, I was telling friends and family in my childhood that it was a Christmas movie, literally years before I heard anyone else jump on that train.
 

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Here's a list of other movies that, by the logic expressed in this thread, can also be considered Christmas movies:

"Die Hard 2" and "Lethal Weapon" Both movies are set at Christmas or right around it. There are plenty of holiday touches like: snow, Christmas trees & decorations, hell, you even have "Scrooge" playing on the television that Mr. Joshua shoots out right before he and Riggs have their front lawn throw down in "Lethal Weapon."

"The Godfather" A very significant segment of the film, the "Sollozo Business" and the assassination of Don Corleone takes place right in the thick of the Christmas season. Michael and Kay are shopping for gifts when Michael gets the news. There's lots of snow. I know the entire movie isn't set at Christmas, but neither is "It's a Wonderful Life."

"Rocky 4" The climatic fight is set on Christmas Day. Rocky spends the last third of the film training in a winter wonderland filled with snow and ice. Adrian comes to be with him (family and togetherness). During the fight, there are cutaways to Rocky's son watching the fight at home, where there are Christmas decorations galore. I'm pretty sure that weird robot is even wearing a Santa hat.

There is a difference between a movie being set at Christmas and a movie being about Christmas. "Die Hard" is the former, not the latter. It's a bit hard to parse out the difference, but so is explaining the spirit of Christmas. It falls too far outside the parameters that all of the other Christmas movie classics have set. To put it another way, "Pulp Fiction" is laugh out loud funny in some parts, but that doesn't make it a comedy. "Die Hard" is the greatest action movie ever made. If you like watching it at Christmas, okay, it's a free country. Enjoy yourself. But there are so many other movies you can watch instead that better reflect the season.
 

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Next Black Irish is going to tell me Apocalypse Now isn't a Christmas movie.....
 
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