Mike Elko - Defensive Coordinator

[Circa]

Saban is the Teflon Don. He won't get caught until he comes to coach ND

He couldn't do It here with us. It just wouldn't work. He's the guy who left the adults midseason at Miami to take a cush job filtering through NFL calabres that he could grey shirt and pay them for It.

I'd love to know the average age of that 2012 team... They were men playing against boys and It wasn't close.

 

[NDMIA]

Sour grapes by the kid. At least that’s what we’re going to be lead to believe. 10yrs, $75M fully guaranteed is too big to fail so the NCAA won’t do anything. Once you get to the upper echelons it takes a man raping kids in Happy Valley or 52 alleged rapes between 2011-2014 in Waco for anything to actually happen to the program. You can have a wife beater on your staff and cover that up if you’d like and you can demean, belittle, and ultimately kill a 19 year old for conditioning purposes (although Durkin might not actually survive this). I’m glad that college football is finally rearing it’s ugly head little by little. Big changes are needed

 

[Irish YJ]

He couldn't do It here with us. It just wouldn't work. He's the guy who left the adults midseason at Miami to take a cush job filtering through NFL calabres that he could grey shirt and pay them for It.

I'd love to know the average age of that 2012 team... They were men playing against boys and It wasn't close.

I have it on good authority he's talked to the Pope, and has signed a future five year deal with ND as penance to cleanse his soul before his worldly death. He has a lot to atone for, so he expects years of honest hard work at which time the NCAA will actually care about the atrocities done over the last 20 years....

 

[Redbar]

Sour grapes by the kid. At least that’s what we’re going to be lead to believe. 10yrs, $75M fully guaranteed is too big to fail so the NCAA won’t do anything. Once you get to the upper echelons it takes a man raping kids in Happy Valley or 52 alleged rapes between 2011-2014 in Waco for anything to actually happen to the program. You can have a wife beater on your staff and cover that up if you’d like and you can demean, belittle, and ultimately kill a 19 year old for conditioning purposes (although Durkin might not actually survive this). I’m glad that college football is finally rearing it’s ugly head little by little. Big changes are needed

Or shooting someone in Times Square?

 

[NDIrish88]

Santino Marchiol, former Texas A&M Aggies linebacker, alleges NCAA violations made by Jimbo Fisher's staff

I hope the media doesn't ask BK about Elko about what he may or may not have done while he was here at ND, then lies about it, and gets administrative leave.

 

[ulukinatme]

What about cults centered around how a dog is the most revered thing around campus?

Person A: My uncle from Texas A&M says youve got a screw loose

Person B: Your uncle molests collies.....

Actually, they molest sheep and jizz into jars.

Tell Me About Texas a&m - Football - Surly Horns

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/sg9bk/turns_out_the_texas_am_jizz_jar_story_is_true/

 

[Luckylucci]

There was some talk after Elko left that it was about more than money. He really didn't share the same mission that ND was trying to push, even though he says that he did. He didn't like the recruiting restrictions. And, he had much more of a, win at all cost, type of mentality. If true......

It'd be pretty hilarious if in search of that, he sells out and immediately gets in trouble at A&M.

 

[Irish#1]

I hope they hammer the former West Virginia local! It's been obvious for years he has rewritten the rule book at FSU and now in a matter of months the truth comes free. Sabans next!

Not really. Bobby rewrote the book. Jimbo just updated a few chapters. lol

Sour grapes by the kid. At least that’s what we’re going to be lead to believe. 10yrs, $75M fully guaranteed is too big to fail so the NCAA won’t do anything. Once you get to the upper echelons it takes a man raping kids in Happy Valley or 52 alleged rapes between 2011-2014 in Waco for anything to actually happen to the program. You can have a wife beater on your staff and cover that up if you’d like and you can demean, belittle, and ultimately kill a 19 year old for conditioning purposes (although Durkin might not actually survive this). I’m glad that college football is finally rearing it’s ugly head little by little. Big changes are needed

That's the first thing that came to mind. Not saying he isn't speaking the truth, but it's rare when a former play cries foul and you see the hammer drop. If he were to simply quit the team and not transfer to play for his former coach, his credibility factor would be a lot higher.

 

[stlnd01]

That's the first thing that came to mind. Not saying he isn't speaking the truth, but it's rare when a former play cries foul and you see the hammer drop. If he were to simply quit the team and not transfer to play for his former coach, his credibility factor would be a lot higher.

The Athletic had a pretty good piece yesterday on how the real import of this isn’t the kid’s allegations - I’m shocked to learn that voluntary workouts aren’t really voluntary - so much as the way he is offering up dirt about his former program as a way to get his transfer waiver approved so he doesn’t have to sit a year. Players know A LOT, obviously. If they start successfully using it as leverage over their current or former programs, many things about college football could change.

 

[stlnd01]

There was some talk after Elko left that it was about more than money. He really didn't share the same mission that ND was trying to push, even though he says that he did. He didn't like the recruiting restrictions. And, he had much more of a, win at all cost, type of mentality. If true......

It'd be pretty hilarious if in search of that, he sells out and immediately gets in trouble at A&M.

I remember when he was caught on tape using foul language before the Miami game. Not a Notre Dame man.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Good thing Jimbo fianlly signed his contract... yesterday.

With all that said, I am less concerned about the alleged violations at A&M than I am with the fact that transfers can and will say things that may or may not be true when they are trying to get their waiver. A potential huge side effect of a rule written to assist athletes wanting to transfer.

 

[BobbyMac]

Sour grapes? Nah. Just the mechanism that gets him immediately eligible.

And I'm sure Sumlin helped author the statement.

 

[Luckylucci]

Good thing Jimbo fianlly signed his contract... yesterday.

With all that said, I am less concerned about the alleged violations at A&M than I am with the fact that transfers can and will say things that may or may not be true when they are trying to get their waiver. A potential huge side effect of a rule written to assist athletes wanting to transfer.

Big picture very true, but I just think it's great that the first instance of this has Jimbo/Elko being named.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Big picture very true, but I just think it's great that the first instance of this has Jimbo/Elko being named.

Yeah... not a good way for them to be starting out.

 

[KPENN]

Who’s Mike Elko?

 

[BeauBenken]

Unless I missed something, all I saw said about Elko was that he was suggesting that attendance at the voluntary practices were necessary...which literally all coaches do.

 

[Luckylucci]

Unless I missed something, all I saw said about Elko was that he was suggesting that attendance at the voluntary practices were necessary...which literally all coaches do.

I believe it was said he was actively coaching those practices.

 

[NDMIA]

That voluntary practice thing over the summer is absolutely ridiculous. We had that same situation in college basketball when I was there and it was pretty simple. The coach said, "you don't have to show up to the voluntary offseason workouts, but I will voluntarily not play you for the entirety of the four years that you are at this school if you want to skip them." He's not requiring us to be there but you damn well better be. Every program in the country is set up that way. You think if Tua Tagovailoa decided to skip out on sessions this summer to sleep in he'd be playing at Alabama this fall??? Horse crap

 

[irishog77]

Good thing Jimbo fianlly signed his contract... yesterday.

With all that said, I am less concerned about the alleged violations at A&M than I am with the fact that transfers can and will say things that may or may not be true when they are trying to get their waiver. A potential huge side effect of a rule written to assist athletes wanting to transfer.

Maybe.

But it seems fairly simple to corroborate the kid's story. I think what you're getting at speaks to the overall picture- if programs are clean and operating above board, I don't think anybody really has anything to worry about. If programs are dirty, then this new rule could be very problematic for them.

 

[Old Man Mike]

When I was teaching at WMU, I played BBall in the gym all the time. ... so did the team in the "off season" prior to the start of school. Under some coaches it was "remarkable" how organized those "voluntary pick-up games" were: No regular student (nor prof) allowed in that part of the gym, lay-up drills, and the head coach standing just outside the door telling me (with a laugh) that it was so he wouldn't be in violation.

..... so even at lowly old WMU.

 

[Irish#1]

When I was teaching at WMU, I played BBall in the gym all the time. ... so did the team in the "off season" prior to the start of school. Under some coaches it was "remarkable" how organized those "voluntary pick-up games" were: No regular student (nor prof) allowed in that part of the gym, lay-up drills, and the head coach standing just outside the door telling me (with a laugh) that it was so he wouldn't be in violation.

..... so even at lowly old WMU.

Back in the 80’s and 90’s The IHSAA forbid off season workouts yet you would see the FC football team doing some pretty organized drills. Over in the parking lot of the school would be a coach observing. Was a common practice at most HS’s.

 

[GowerND11]

Back in the 80’s and 90’s The IHSAA forbid off season workouts yet you would see the FC football team doing some pretty organized drills. Over in the parking lot of the school would be a coach observing. Was a common practice at most HS’s.

In the 2000s here in PA they then allowed the coaches to be there for liability reasons... Now, they just say yeah, go ahead.

 

[dublinirish]

Santino Marchiol, former Texas A&M Aggies linebacker, alleges NCAA violations made by Jimbo Fisher's staff

Marchiol was kicked off the Arizona football team by Sumlin after a racist video emerged

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...d-arizona-after-video-racist-term/1114260002/

 

[IrishLax]

Marchiol was kicked off the Arizona football team by Sumlin after a racist video emerged

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...d-arizona-after-video-racist-term/1114260002/

The TLDR is that Texas A&M fans went digital sleuthing for any dirt they could find on Marchiol after he alleged NCAA violations. They found a video on his Hudl page where he calls two players "monkeys." Kevin Sumlin then dismissed him from the team, and now his career is probably done. I guess if you're gonna snitch you better make sure your digital history is air tight because fans are gonna come after you.

 

[dublinirish]

The TLDR is that Texas A&M fans went digital sleuthing for any dirt they could find on Marchiol after he alleged NCAA violations. They found a video on his Hudl page where he calls two players "monkeys." Kevin Sumlin then dismissed him from the team, and now his career is probably done. I guess if you're gonna snitch you better make sure your digital history is air tight because fans are gonna come after you.

definitely! the kid's attorney should have covered these bases for him and had every social media page etc deleted.

 

[BobbyMac]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Opponents facing <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachMikeElko?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CoachMikeElko</a>'s <a href="https://twitter.com/AggieFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AggieFootball</a> defense have punted 59% of possessions. This is the best among FBS teams for 2018.</p>— SportSourceAnalytics (@SportSourceA) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportSourceA/status/1052265763707469826?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 16, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[irishff1014]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Opponents facing <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachMikeElko?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CoachMikeElko</a>'s <a href="https://twitter.com/AggieFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AggieFootball</a> defense have punted 59% of possessions. This is the best among FBS teams for 2018.</p>— SportSourceAnalytics (@SportSourceA) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportSourceA/status/1052265763707469826?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 16, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Oh yea how many point do they give up in the 2nd half? #Leais on fire

 

[IrishLion]

 

[Irish#1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Opponents facing <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachMikeElko?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CoachMikeElko</a>'s <a href="https://twitter.com/AggieFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AggieFootball</a> defense have punted 59% of possessions. This is the best among FBS teams for 2018.</p>— SportSourceAnalytics (@SportSourceA) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportSourceA/status/1052265763707469826?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 16, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You woke me up from my nap to tell me this?

 

[NDRock]

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Oh yea how many point do they give up in the 2nd half? #Leais on fire

10.7 per game.