Kelly NFL Rumors

[pumpdog20]

If Lovie went to the Lions... I would die... just die...

Don't know if you're joking, but I'm a Lovie guy. Totally screwed over by the GM.

 

[NDinL.A.]

1 is true.
2 I refuse to believe. ND is an international brand. You can literally go anywhere in the country and find ND fans aplenty.
3 is half true.... UT weight room is better, but the rest I think ND is at worst tied with. ND's pockets are deeeeeeeep.
4... you haven't been to Texas in the summer have you?
5 UT has the pipelines from Texas and western Louisiana, but other than that, ND has better recruiting across the country. Also, it's not like ND doesn't pull from the Republic.
6 I agree with and along with #1 is really the only major benefit I see for them over ND.

** Do you realize how much easier it is to recruit in one state as opposed to the entire nation? How much easier it is on your body, your mind, your family life, etc?

** Do you also realize how much it royally sucks to have to travel the country, speaking to ND groups from CA to NY and everywhere and anywhere in between? It's crazy the amount of time an ND coach has to spend doing non-football things.

** Texas in the summer > South Bend in the winter to most Southern and Western recruits. It just is and I don't think that's even debatable (how many recruits have you ever heard state they don't want to go to TX bc of the heat in the summer. Compare that to what they say about ND winters.

** ND pockets might be deep, but they certainly don't act like it. They have historically underpaid assistants, and they are consistently behind the times with too many things. They've done better lately, but they need to be more consistent with it.

I don't think TX will look at Kelly, but I do see how people can say what an incredible job it would be to have...

 

[peoriairish]

** Do you realize how much easier it is to recruit in one state as opposed to the entire nation? How much easier it is on your body, your mind, your family life, etc?

All true and would be a plus for UT

** Do you also realize how much it royally sucks to have to travel the country, speaking to ND groups from CA to NY and everywhere and anywhere in between? It's crazy the amount of time an ND coach has to spend doing non-football things.

Just goes along with the last point.

** Texas in the summer > South Bend in the winter to most Southern and Western recruits. It just is and I don't think that's even debatable (how many recruits have you ever heard state they don't want to go to TX bc of the heat in the summer. Compare that to what they say about ND winters.

Also true, not disagreeing the weather point. But you don't hear kids who want to go to UT because of academics. Just another point to be brought up.

** ND pockets might be deep, but they certainly don't act like it. They have historically underpaid assistants, and they are consistently behind the times with too many things. They've done better lately, but they need to be more consistent with it.

This supports the UT administration being more supportive of the program; something I'm not disagreeing on. Can be put in the plus column for UT.

I don't think TX will look at Kelly, but I do see how people can say what an incredible job it would be to have...

I really just think that with the changes Kelly has been making at ND that him and Swarbrick can eventually get things more and more in their favor. And like everything in this world, there are pluses and minuses to each. For BK, growing up in Boston and finally getting the team together he wants, I think ND is the pinnacle for him in the CFB world.

 

[BobD]

I'd be shocked if Texas was truly interested in BK. I like BK a lot, but they want a bigger fish.

 

[notredame4life]

I am new to this fan page we can't I post in the chat box

 

[IrishLax]

This thread cracks me up a little. It's basically the ESPN business model incarnate. Reminds me of when they had Jaws say that Kaepernick was the best QB in the league or whatever. It's manufactured stories.

Literally the only thing on Kelly and Detroit was a tweet a couple days ago saying they reached out to him. Literally the only thing on Texas was Mark May (!!!!) campaigning for him to leave ND.

The vast majority of people aren't on the ledge, but it's just funny watching us all spin our wheels and discuss things like "Is Texas really the best job in the country?" and the like... just because of manufactured stories. It's very entertaining and interesting, but it's also an exercise in futility.

 

[peoriairish]

This thread cracks me up a little. It's basically the ESPN business model incarnate. Reminds me of when they had Jaws say that Kaepernick was the best QB in the league or whatever. It's manufactured stories.

Literally the only thing on Kelly and Detroit was a tweet a couple days ago saying they reached out to him. Literally the only thing on Texas was Mark May (!!!!) campaigning for him to leave ND.

The vast majority of people aren't on the ledge, but it's just funny watching us all spin our wheels and discuss things like "Is Texas really the best job in the country?" and the like... just because of manufactured stories. It's very entertaining and interesting, but it's also an exercise in futility.

I was just debating this fact and nothing more. I'm not worried about Kelly leaving for another CFB HC spot in the near future.

The NFL does worry me a bit, however, from some other things I've heard.

 

[gkIrish]

This thread cracks me up a little. It's basically the ESPN business model incarnate. Reminds me of when they had Jaws say that Kaepernick was the best QB in the league or whatever. It's manufactured stories.

Literally the only thing on Kelly and Detroit was a tweet a couple days ago saying they reached out to him. Literally the only thing on Texas was Mark May (!!!!) campaigning for him to leave ND.

The vast majority of people aren't on the ledge, but it's just funny watching us all spin our wheels and discuss things like "Is Texas really the best job in the country?" and the like... just because of manufactured stories. It's very entertaining and interesting, but it's also an exercise in futility.

For the record I don't think any of us are actually buying into anything Mark May said. The Texas v. ND thing did stem off his words but it may as well been a separate thread.

 

[IrishLax]

I was just debating this fact and nothing more. I'm not worried about Kelly leaving for another CFB HC spot in the near future.

The NFL does worry me a bit, however, from some other things I've heard.

For the record I don't think any of us are actually buying into anything Mark May said. The Texas v. ND thing did stem off his words but it may have well been a separate thread.

Yeah, that's exactly my point. Nobody actually thinks Kelly is/might go to Texas. But because of a manufactured story, we now have about a dozen posts discussing things about Texas and what May said and the like. That is exactly what ESPN wants. This is exactly their "hot sports take" business model. It's genius and so well executed.

 

[peoriairish]

Yeah, that's exactly my point. Nobody actually thinks Kelly is/might go to Texas. But because of a manufactured story, we now have about a dozen posts discussing things about Texas and what May said and the like. That is exactly what ESPN wants. This is exactly their "hot sports take" business model. It's genius and so well executed.

I admittedly buy into marketing campaigns a lot. It's like their talking to ME! haha.

Honestly, do you really think ESPN big-wigs told May to talk about that? I find that hard to believe. That just sounds like May trolling all on his own to me.

 

[gkIrish]

Yeah, that's exactly my point. Nobody actually thinks Kelly is/might go to Texas. But because of a manufactured story, we now have about a dozen posts discussing things about Texas and what May said and the like. That is exactly what ESPN wants. This is exactly their "hot sports take" business model. It's genius and so well executed.

Very true. I have a law school friend that is married to an ESPN writer (you would definitely know his name) that I've been trying to have dinner with. I definitely want to ask him about shit like this.

 

[greyhammer90]

Why? Because of the ease of recruiting and Texas being football crazy? It's not like ND doesn't sell out every home game. Just curious as to why so many think UT >>>>> ND.

Assistant coach salaries. It's huge, bigger than people realize. The head coach at Texas gets whatever budget he wants to spend on his coaches. This means little turnover and he can get the best. You mix in that and the greatest constant recruiting pipelines in the country, and the two hardest parts of being a college coach are exponentially easier.

 

[IrishLax]

I admittedly buy into marketing campaigns a lot. It's like their talking to ME! haha.

Honestly, do you really think ESPN big-wigs told May to talk about that? I find that hard to believe. That just sounds like May trolling all on his own to me.

Maybe, or maybe it's just an innate thing they look for in their talent. But I think they sit down and have production meetings where they discuss which "hot sports takes" their talent should use in the upcoming segment.

Cowherd is great at doing the "I'm totally not trolling... but yeah, I am" controversial take, Skip Bayless is the "embrace debate" controversial take who gets in your face, and on and on. I'd bet a lot of money that they sat down and said "OK we need to discuss the Texas job... who are some outside the box names not on the list of candidates? Oh Brian Kelly... that can be good! No one is talking about that, it'll be a fresh take. Let's talk about why Texas would be a better job than ND, that'll definitely get some reaction."

And here we are... reacting. And it's not even about taking what May said seriously... none of us think it will happen. I haven't seen a single person go "OMG Kelly might leave for Texas!?!" It's just the fact that it kickstarted discussion. It got people talking. Would anyone be talking about Texas relative to ND/Kelly were it not for those comments? No. ESPN is simply great about manufacturing stories and discussion. It's an art.

 

[peoriairish]

Maybe, or maybe it's just an innate thing they look for in their talent. But I think they sit down and have production meetings where they discuss which "hot sports takes" their talent should use in the upcoming segment.

Cowherd is great at doing the "I'm totally not trolling... but yeah, I am" controversial take, Skip Bayless is the "embrace debate" controversial take who gets in your face, and on and on. I'd bet a lot of money that they sat down and said "OK we need to discuss the Texas job... who are some outside the box names not on the list of candidates? Oh Brian Kelly... that can be good! No one is talking about that, it'll be a fresh take. Let's talk about why Texas would be a better job than ND, that'll definitely get some reaction."

And here we are... reacting. And it's not even about taking what May said seriously... none of us think it will happen. I haven't seen a single person go "OMG Kelly might leave for Texas!?!" It's just the fact that it kickstarted discussion. It got people talking. Would anyone be talking about Texas relative to ND/Kelly were it not for those comments? No. ESPN is simply great about manufacturing stories and discussion. It's an art.

Valid and likely.

 

[greyhammer90]

Valid and likely.

I think it's actually been confirmed. Anchors that have left have admitted that they were instructed to bring up Tebow every chance they got, whether it was true or not. It's just because Tebow is a person that people react to.

 

[STLDomer]

I'm waiting for the day Kelly is in the news and Stephen A Smith says BK is a dear friend of his.

 

[Rhode Irish]

Maybe, or maybe it's just an innate thing they look for in their talent. But I think they sit down and have production meetings where they discuss which "hot sports takes" their talent should use in the upcoming segment.

Cowherd is great at doing the "I'm totally not trolling... but yeah, I am" controversial take, Skip Bayless is the "embrace debate" controversial take who gets in your face, and on and on. I'd bet a lot of money that they sat down and said "OK we need to discuss the Texas job... who are some outside the box names not on the list of candidates? Oh Brian Kelly... that can be good! No one is talking about that, it'll be a fresh take. Let's talk about why Texas would be a better job than ND, that'll definitely get some reaction."

And here we are... reacting. And it's not even about taking what May said seriously... none of us think it will happen. I haven't seen a single person go "OMG Kelly might leave for Texas!?!" It's just the fact that it kickstarted discussion. It got people talking. Would anyone be talking about Texas relative to ND/Kelly were it not for those comments? No. ESPN is simply great about manufacturing stories and discussion. It's an art.

Lou basically said that to him, though in less words.

 

[dublinirish]

Lions should hire Mike Zimmer IMO

 

[ThePiombino]

Don't scratch Saban off that list just yet.

^ this

4. I have actually. I don't think you can dispute that most people would prefer to live in Austin, Texas than South Bend, Indiana though.

anyone who prefer otherwise is on crack cocaine

I'd be shocked if Texas was truly interested in BK. I like BK a lot, but they want a bigger fish.

BK is kind of a big deal...but I still don't think he's on the short list.

 

[Irish#1]

Maybe, or maybe it's just an innate thing they look for in their talent. But I think they sit down and have production meetings where they discuss which "hot sports takes" their talent should use in the upcoming segment.

Cowherd is great at doing the "I'm totally not trolling... but yeah, I am" controversial take, Skip Bayless is the "embrace debate" controversial take who gets in your face, and on and on. I'd bet a lot of money that they sat down and said "OK we need to discuss the Texas job... who are some outside the box names not on the list of candidates? Oh Brian Kelly... that can be good! No one is talking about that, it'll be a fresh take. Let's talk about why Texas would be a better job than ND, that'll definitely get some reaction."

And here we are... reacting. And it's not even about taking what May said seriously... none of us think it will happen. I haven't seen a single person go "OMG Kelly might leave for Texas!?!" It's just the fact that it kickstarted discussion. It got people talking. Would anyone be talking about Texas relative to ND/Kelly were it not for those comments? No. ESPN is simply great about manufacturing stories and discussion. It's an art.

Valid and likely.

I think it's actually been confirmed. Anchors that have left have admitted that they were instructed to bring up Tebow every chance they got, whether it was true or not. It's just because Tebow is a person that people react to.

I've heard Mike & Mike briefly discuss production meetings where they do indeed mee to see what they are going to discuss. Sure May brings it up. Perfect little segment to rib Holtz with. As flimsy as it is, there's you ND & UT connection right there.

 

[BobD]

BK is kind of a big deal.

I agree, but how many committed players for major program's do you see possibly decommitting for a chance to play for BK in Texas?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

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(The best thing ever bout Texas :
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[IrishBlood81]

So I wake up this morning and yay! Rumors that not only Kelly is still going to the Lion but also he may go to Texas as well…at the same time, he'll coach both teams simultaneously.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

So I wake up this morning and yay! Rumors that not only Kelly is still going to the Lion but also he may go to Texas as well…at the same time, he'll coach both teams simultaneously.

In through the nose, out through the mouth. Then read the last page of posts and chill-LAX (as in chill with LAX's explanation of the hype machine that shouldn't get you so riled up over so little).

 

[connor_in]

So I wake up this morning and yay! Rumors that not only Kelly is still going to the Lion but also he may go to Texas as well…at the same time, he'll coach both teams simultaneously.

Its OK man...the rumors are we will get Gruden and Stoops BOTH in his place!

 

[peoriairish]

^ this



anyone who prefer otherwise is on crack cocaine



BK is kind of a big deal...but I still don't think he's on the short list.

I must be on crack. I much prefer the midwest to Austin. I like snow, I like the whitetail hunting up here, and I like the people in the midwest. Now if you could pass me some rock, that would be great. Thanks.

 

[ND NYC]

BK is never/would never leave ND for another college gig. period.

the nfl...maybe. but college, no way in hell.

and i dont need anyone on espn or the media bringing it up to change my mind. mark may...mark may?!! of all people, cmon! he's messin with all of you. geesh!

 

[GoIrish41]

So I wake up this morning and yay! Rumors that not only Kelly is still going to the Lion but also he may go to Texas as well…at the same time, he'll coach both teams simultaneously.

Good thing college games are on Saturdays and NFL on Sundays.

 

[ulukinatme]

Austin is as attractive, and probably more attractive than just about any other gig in college football. As an example, if the UT job had come up at the same time as the 'Bama job, and Saban was offered both, I'd have to think he goes to Texas. It's a bit different story now as he's already got a sure thing and enough cash, which is probably why he didn't make the move this year. That, and I can't imagine starting over.

Nevertheless, the Irish gig is still a good one, and a destination job imo. We probably still don't pay BK enough to keep him away from the NFL, but it's been decades since an ND coach left for the NFL, and he was on the way out anyway. You either get canned at this job, or you retire. Despite the period of struggles, none of that has changed. Could BK go to the NFL? It's still possible, but I think the administration would do their part to try and keep him here if possible. I don't think he'd go to another college job.

 

[TK22867]

BK is never/would never leave ND for another college gig. period.

Why not?

Most of us on this Board see things through blue and gold colored lenses. If you separate yourself from your love of Notre Dame, one can clearly see why Texas would be the better choice - both in terms of $, recruiting, and the potential for long-term success.

Or look at it the other way around. Why couldn't we pry Bob Stoops away from Oklahoma if Notre Dame was equivalent or better to Texas?