Johnny Football

[adsnorri]

This kid is a walking time bomb. The NCAA is not going to come down on him hard if at all. The investigation will likely take 2 years and/or dead end because the broker won't provide anymore useful info after he gets paid accordingly from Manziel's camp. Win-win for everyone involved. Sad but true imo. Heisman seems to be getting paid pretty well as of late. How did Manziel think he was going to get away with a broker selling 100+ signed pictures of him and there not be some suspicion as of how so many were signed? He's not only an idiot for doing something like this but letting the guy take a picture of him signing them. WOW! I don't care if you have to sell the pics for half, you're not going to take that picture. I hope he tanks this year and fades into the darkness of College football. I surely don't want to hear about this guy for the next 2.5 years.

 

[T Town Tommy]

It would be sad if JF is found guilty of accepting money for autographs. The Aggies, along with Stanford, are the two most overrated teams going into the season. Just don't want the Aggie fans to have an excuse as to why they got their tails whipped enroute to an 8-4 type season.

 

[NDWorld247]

This kid is a walking time bomb. The NCAA is not going to come down on him hard if at all. The investigation will likely take 2 years and/or dead end because the broker won't provide anymore useful info after he gets paid accordingly from Manziel's camp. Win-win for everyone involved. Sad but true imo. Heisman seems to be getting paid pretty well as of late. How did Manziel think he was going to get away with a broker selling 100+ signed pictures of him and there not be some suspicion as of how so many were signed? He's not only an idiot for doing something like this but letting the guy take a picture of him signing them. WOW! I don't care if you have to sell the pics for half, you're not going to take that picture. I hope he tanks this year and fades into the darkness of College football. I surely don't want to hear about this guy for the next 2.5 years.

FWIW, the picture that's floating around is not from the same incident he's being investigated for. Apparently that's from November 9th in a Birmingham hotel room the night before A&M beat up on Alabama. (That last line is for you Tommy )

 

[T Town Tommy]

FWIW, the picture that's floating around is not from the same incident he's being investigated for. Apparently that's from November 9th in a Birmingham hotel room the night before A&M beat up on Alabama. (That last line is for you Tommy )

Gotta give them credit where it is due. They did do that. But, week three this season and I am confident Bama returns the favor... JF or not.

 

[ulukinatme]

Gotta give them credit where it is due. They did do that. But, week three this season and I am confident Bama returns the favor... JF or not.

Gotta agree here. I can't imagine after the off season Manziel has had that he'll be in top form come the showdown with 'Bama. He could prove me wrong and be better than last year...but I think he's in for a slump. In the end, even Manziel won't be enough this time I wager.

 

[NDWorld247]

Gotta agree here. I can't imagine after the off season Manziel has had that he'll be in top form come the showdown with 'Bama. He could prove me wrong and be better than last year...but I think he's in for a slump. In the end, even Manziel won't be enough this time I wager.

I agree with Tommy as well. Even with 12 men, A&M will have a tough time in week 3. But to your second point, obviously we don't know what goes on behind the scenes, but NOTHING I've heard from Johnny this season leads me to believe he's put in the amount of work it takes to improve. If anything, I'd be surprised if he didn't regress a bit.

Did he even participate in summer workouts? Every time I put on SportsCenter or read something about him he was in a different part of the country this summer.

 

[adsnorri]

FWIW, the picture that's floating around is not from the same incident he's being investigated for. Apparently that's from November 9th in a Birmingham hotel room the night before A&M beat up on Alabama. (That last line is for you Tommy )

I would imagine if he is signing these for the broker , they will be a part of the investigation of others that he signed for the same broker. Unless i'm missing something and he is just signing a stack of pictures for a friend who just happened to take a picture of him signing them out of the great will of his heart...

 

[ND NYC]

wish i could get my hands on a signed picture of the picture of him signing the autographed pictures...

 

[greyhammer90]

wish i could get my hands on a signed picture of the picture of him signing the autographed pictures...

I would take a picture of him signing your picture then ask him to sign mine.

 

[kmoose]

wish i could get my hands on a signed picture of the picture of him signing the autographed pictures...

For $10,000+, you probably can.

 

[Emcee77]

A&M has a capable backup, right? As I recall Johnny Football wasn't even supposed to win the job last fall. Can anyone confirm or disconfirm?

It's probably in the thread; I apologize if this is redundant.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

A&M has a capable backup, right? As I recall Johnny Football wasn't even supposed to win the job last fall. Can anyone confirm or disconfirm?

It's probably in the thread; I apologize if this is redundant.

I think the kid that he was battling before last year has transferred.

 

[pkt77242]

A&M has a capable backup, right? As I recall Johnny Football wasn't even supposed to win the job last fall. Can anyone confirm or disconfirm?

It's probably in the thread; I apologize if this is redundant.

That QB (Shiwers transfered to UTEP). They have Matt Joeckel a JR with little experience and Matt Davis a rFR who was highly rated out of HS

 

[Kak7304]

See Miami University

Or Cam Newton. I think this will play out just like the Cam Newton pay-for-play saga where the NCAA will place all the blame on a 3rd party, Manziel's "assistant" who asked for money, and act as if Manziel was completely ignorant about what was happening.

 

[Kak7304]

It would be sad if JF is found guilty of accepting money for autographs. The Aggies, along with Stanford, are the two most overrated teams going into the season. Just don't want the Aggie fans to have an excuse as to why they got their tails whipped enroute to an 8-4 type season.

They'll still blame any failures this season on the media distractions circling him.

 

[Emcee77]

See Miami University

minor quibble: Miami University is in Oxford, Ohio and plays in the MAC. University of Miami is in Coral Gables, Florida and plays in the ACC. I assume you meant the latter. My wife comes from a RedHawk family and I felt like I had to correct the record.

 

[Emcee77]

That QB (Shiwers transfered to UTEP). They have Matt Joeckel a JR with little experience and Matt Davis a rFR who was highly rated out of HS

Thanks.

 

[T Town Tommy]

They'll still blame any failures this season on the media distractions circling him.

True. And that may not be far from the truth. I don't know what all the school has tried to do to curtail some of JF's activities outside of football but the family doesn't think they have done enough. We shall see... sometimes these players feel at home on the field and can eliminate all the noise around them. I hope for JF's sake, it works out for him.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I feel sorry for Sumlin in all this. I think he's done everything he could to give JM guidance and get him to grow up and stop acting like an idiot and shooting himself in the foot over & over, but with no success. Gotta be frustrating for him. He may age 10 years before this is all over and his hair turn completely gray.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

I am surprised this picture came out so fast. Usually you don't see any sort of phsyical evidence in these "reports."

Hopefully the fact this has made its way to China and back thanks to twitter the NCAA can't drag its feet.

I'm convinced that Mark Emrich and all of the idiots that head up the NCAA have not yet signed up for the interwebs or the Twitter machine. That's plausible deniability.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

I'm convinced that Mark Emrich and all of the idiots that head up the NCAA have not yet signed up for the interwebs or the Twitter machine. That's plausible deniability.

I found out today that my boss's next door neighbor is Julie Roe Lach, the one who got waxed for paying Shapiro's bankruptcy attorney in the Miami case. She told my boss that it was Emmert's idea and she was just following his directive. When it all came to light he made her take the fall and played dumb in return for a sweet severance package.

 

[LoveThee]

I found out today that my boss's next door neighbor is Julie Roe Lach, the one who got waxed for paying Shapiro's bankruptcy attorney in the Miami case. She told my boss that it was Emmert's idea and she was just following his directive. When it all came to light he made her take the fall and played dumb in return for a sweet severance package.

Thats some serious corruption. Makes me wonder why would he do that. What does the NCAA gain by doing something like this? Why not just punish those who break the rules? I'm legitimately asking so reps to whoever can enlighten me

 

[T Town Tommy]

Thats some serious corruption. Makes me wonder why would he do that. What does the NCAA gain by doing something like this? Why not just punish those who break the rules? I'm legitimately asking so reps to whoever can enlighten me

There was a news article a few weeks back - sorry can't remember where I read it - that basically had 2-3 enforcement officers at the NCAA who claimed that Emmert had "issues" with certain schools and/or coaches at those schools, and that he sought them out to "investigate." Bottom line, they called him a very vindictive person who thought he was above the rules and would do whatever he could to bring those schools down.

Since the article didn't name the sources I guess we should take some of it with a grain of salt. But his actions in the recent past lends some credibility to those claims.

 

[Redbar]

I found out today that my boss's next door neighbor is Julie Roe Lach, the one who got waxed for paying Shapiro's bankruptcy attorney in the Miami case. She told my boss that it was Emmert's idea and she was just following his directive. When it all came to light he made her take the fall and played dumb in return for a sweet severance package.

I would be lying if I said that this exact scenario hadn't crossed my mind. The NCAA has no interest in FAIR, their interest is in PROFITABLE. PROFITABLE in their estimation requires a PERCEPTION of FAIR. This is why that play makes sense. Mark Emmert is no choir boy. I would not doubt her assertion, sorry she took the cushy severance deal.

 

[T Town Tommy]

ESPN Outside The Lines ran the story on Emmert targeting specific coaches "according to NCAA staffers." Sorry I don't have the link however.

 

[NDohio]

minor quibble: Miami University is in Oxford, Ohio and plays in the MAC. University of Miami is in Coral Gables, Florida and plays in the ACC. I assume you meant the latter. My wife comes from a RedHawk family and I felt like I had to correct the record.

Yeah, sorry. I was on my phone and not in a place I should have been posting. I was trying to do it quickly.

My wife and I are Redskins(hawks), so it's really inexcusable for me to have typed it that way.

Main point: The NCAA will drag their feet to the point that it just doesn't matter. That has become their new MO.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Thats some serious corruption. Makes me wonder why would he do that. What does the NCAA gain by doing something like this? Why not just punish those who break the rules? I'm legitimately asking so reps to whoever can enlighten me

The most charitable explanation (toward Emmert at least) is that the NCAA member schools have given the Committee on Infractions an impossible task-- to effectively punish cheaters in a multi-billion industry (with commensurately large incentives to cheat), but without subpoena powers. Thus, the "unconventional" methods for gathering evidence against Miami.

The NCAA is ineffective because the football schools prefer it that way. They could change it tomorrow if they wanted to.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

I can just see Uncle Nate's mom grabbing her son by the ear and dragging him to his bedroom

@DanWolken: Reached by phone tonight, Nathan Fitch's mother told me "There is no story. It's all media hype." Then she hung up.

 

[NDWorld247]

Same law firm that Newton hired in 2010.

Texas A&M retains law firm for Johnny Manziel matter

 

[Irish Insanity]

While I don't believe it to be true, I still stand by the fact he will claim ignorance at some point. That he just didn't know what was going on.