If you sold your tickets to a UGAfan

[NorthDakota]

I didn't mean you GK it was meant for the ones who let their tickets go but watch your step in that environment when you go pull for the Irish.

I'll have GK's back. Follow my lead GK, I speak redneck. I'll smooth over any trouble you get yourself into.

 

[texbender]

Just to clarify, because I'm not sure it still works this way, but the faculty still gets tickets included in their compensation right?

Because that's where a large part of the issue is coming from (I think)... I know there are many faculty who have zero interest in football and resell 100% of their tickets. Just not sure what the raw number is.

I'm not sure what current system is, but I know when my dad was faculty for 30+ years he didn't "get" tix, he had to pay for them.

 

[RDU Irish]

I have donated 1,000+ dollars to the University in the last 5 years and I am a relatively broke 29 year old.

The point is that someone could afford to buy tickets and chose not to go to the game. Someone else on the wait list or an alum or whatever that didnt win tickets in the lottery would otherwise have gone to the game. Folks like RDU Irish bought tickets with the purpose to make a profit, not to be a fan. I didn't buy tickets to the game because I could not afford to go. I didn't screw someone else out of the opportunity.

I bought with the intention of using them - you probably glossed over that in your fits of rage. I also bought them knowing if I couldn't use them I would not lose money. I also bought NC State tickets that I now cannot use and likely will take a bath on them. Thought 20 yard line tickets would hold up in value regardless of the opponent but I was wrong. All you cheap, broke folks just want to leach off of those who buy the tickets upfront and refuse to pay market value (unless the market is below face value, then you will brag about it). Local ND fans are spoiled with easy access and cheap tickets and then complain the loudest when they won't pay up for the big game.

Maybe you wouldn't be a "broke 29 year old" if you didn't go to so many expensive away games like Georgia next year and the laundry list you have talked about before. Enjoy it - when you and your friends grow up and have real responsibilities it will be a lot more expensive and harder to coordinate.

4-8 team folks, get a grip

 

[GowerND11]

You literally buy tickets for 2 reasons... Go to the game (good), or sell them for profit (bad). That's on you. Just because many of us cannot afford the tickets because we are broke, can't get off work to travel, etc. doesn't make you better.

 

[FightingIrish41]

I sold my tickets to a UGA family and I don't regret it. Anything that helps Brian Kelly gtfo ASAP is what's best for the university and the athletic program. The guy basically killed a student worker and we kept him here. He's a huge black eye to a once proud school and program. I'll probably continue to sell my tickets to opposing fans until he's fired. I've already sold my NC State tickets to a coworker that went there.

 

[GowerND11]

I sold my tickets to a UGA family and I don't regret it. Anything that helps Brian Kelly gtfo ASAP is what's best for the university and the athletic program. The guy basically killed a student worker and we kept him here. He's a huge black eye to a once proud school and program. I'll probably continue to sell my tickets to opposing fans until he's fired. I've already sold my NC State tickets to a coworker that went there.

Just an absolutely wonderful first post. Let me help you out...On the top right of the page is a button that says log out, go ahead and do that, unplug your computer, and toss it in a lake.

You want Kelly gone? Fine, that's a justifiable opinion, but you don't sell out the player AND the recruits that are interested in coming here.


Edit: Now that we know you're from SECRant and I can reasonably guess you're an Ole Miss fan... I get it. I get that you feel the need to go onto another team's site, where, yes there is infighting about what happened at our stadium Saturday night. I get that you must have nothing better to occupy your time with than to make a fake username. I'm impressed sir. Impressed that irrelevant ND took up space in your brain and time in your life.

I hope you have a wonderful week and god bless.

 

[NorthDakota]

I sold my tickets to a UGA family and I don't regret it. Anything that helps Brian Kelly gtfo ASAP is what's best for the university and the athletic program. The guy basically killed a student worker and we kept him here. He's a huge black eye to a once proud school and program. I'll probably continue to sell my tickets to opposing fans until he's fired. I've already sold my NC State tickets to a coworker that went there.

I cant neg rep you via mobile.... but I want you to know I would if I could. What an awful post. No idea if you have any idea how bad that is if me of all people is calling a post awful.

 

[woolybug25]

I cant neg rep you via mobile.... but I want you to know I would if I could. What an awful post. No idea if you have any idea how bad that is if me of all people is calling a post awful.

I got you, homie. This fella is a grade A asshole.

 

[woolybug25]

I bought with the intention of using them - you probably glossed over that in your fits of rage. I also bought them knowing if I couldn't use them I would not lose money. I also bought NC State tickets that I now cannot use and likely will take a bath on them. Thought 20 yard line tickets would hold up in value regardless of the opponent but I was wrong. All you cheap, broke folks just want to leach off of those who buy the tickets upfront and refuse to pay market value (unless the market is below face value, then you will brag about it). Local ND fans are spoiled with easy access and cheap tickets and then complain the loudest when they won't pay up for the big game.

Maybe you wouldn't be a "broke 29 year old" if you didn't go to so many expensive away games like Georgia next year and the laundry list you have talked about before. Enjoy it - when you and your friends grow up and have real responsibilities it will be a lot more expensive and harder to coordinate.

4-8 team folks, get a grip

Ironically you think the tickets are too expensive, but damn I wish ND would price people like you out of tickets. It's a shame you even buy tickets.

 

[Henges24]

I sold my tickets to a UGA family and I don't regret it. Anything that helps Brian Kelly gtfo ASAP is what's best for the university and the athletic program. The guy basically killed a student worker and we kept him here. He's a huge black eye to a once proud school and program. I'll probably continue to sell my tickets to opposing fans until he's fired. I've already sold my NC State tickets to a coworker that went there.

You are my first neg Rep. Feel proud and don't post again.

 

[NDohio]

I sold my tickets to a UGA family and I don't regret it. Anything that helps Brian Kelly gtfo ASAP is what's best for the university and the athletic program. The guy basically killed a student worker and we kept him here. He's a huge black eye to a once proud school and program. I'll probably continue to sell my tickets to opposing fans until he's fired. I've already sold my NC State tickets to a coworker that went there.

NDGradstudent, is that you?

 

[ulukinatme]

If I had to guess, FightingIrish41 is a Georgia fan. If he's not, he might as well be. Wouldn't be surprised if GA fans are watching this thread.

 

[GowerND11]

NDGradstudent, is that you?

Reps!

 

[irishnd31]

If I had to guess, FightingIrish41 is a Georgia fan. If he's not, he might as well be. Wouldn't be surprised if GA fans are watching this thread.

LMAO. I love that gif. Someone please rep this man for me. I am a fan of ulukiinatme and have no ability to do so at this time. Thanks.

 

[ulukinatme]

If I had to guess, FightingIrish41 is a Georgia fan. If he's not, he might as well be. Wouldn't be surprised if GA fans are watching this thread.

I was right. Check out Ole Misdia here. Not a Georgia fan, but he's a troll. Same difference:

Notre Dame fans melt | Page 3 | SECRant.com

Ban his ass. Only an SEC fan site would be dumb enough to think they'd get away with trolling another board. They're still new to this fancy interwebz thing, not sure how Google search works.

 

[Henges24]

I was right. Check out Ole Misdia here. Not a Georgia fan, but he's a troll. Same difference:

Notre Dame fans melt | Page 3 | SECRant.com

Ban his ass. Only an SEC fan site would be dumb enough to think they'd get away with trolling another board. They're still new to this fancy interwebz thing, not sure how Google search works.

Nice find. Fvcking hicks can't even spell Notre correct.

 

[TheSunIsRising]

I was right. Check out Ole Misdia here. Not a Georgia fan, but he's a troll. Same difference:

Notre Dame fans melt | Page 3 | SECRant.com

Ban his ass. Only an SEC fan site would be dumb enough to think they'd get away with trolling another board. They're still new to this fancy interwebz thing, not sure how Google search works.

Stupid thing is....if he had just been upfront, said he was a UGA fan and that it is shameful for ND that there was so much red in the stadium (kind of like how TTommy conducts himself), the post would have actually carried much much more weight. Instead: it screams TROLLLLLLL, and gets discounted.

[ohhh, and he must have edited the post to spell 'Cabt' better on the 2nd try..... ]

 

[IrishinSyria]

That's not the point. If you don't want to go to the game, selling to an ND fan is better than selling to a Georgia fan but the even better option is to not buy the ticket in the first place.

For what it's worth, I didn't get any tickets this season because a: I was less than excited about this squad and (more important) b: I'm starting a new job this fall and didn't know what my schedule would be like except that for the first time in a few years I would have to fly to get to a game.

But fuck, I wish I had. You're the libertarian- you should know that "if you didn't want to go to the game" doesn't make sense. We all wanted to go to the game- the cost (opportunity + actual) just wasn't worth it for us. It doesn't matter if you're in possession of a ticket or not, the rational way of figuring out if you should or shouldn't go is the exact same: is (the value you place in attending the game)>(the cost of attending the game). That cost includes money you're not getting by putting your tickets on the open market.

If notre dame enforced their resale policy it might be different. But ultimately, what happened is that Georgia fans valued the chance to attend the game at a much higher rate than ND fans. It sucks, but you can't realistically blame people for not forgoing $800+ of revenue for the chance to protect 1/80,000th of the stadium. Again, unless you actually attended the game you made the exact same calculation as people who sold their tickets.

 

[wizards8507]

For what it's worth, I didn't get any tickets this season because a: I was less than excited about this squad and (more important) b: I'm starting a new job this fall and didn't know what my schedule would be like except that for the first time in a few years I would have to fly to get to a game.

But fuck, I wish I had. You're the libertarian- you should know that "if you didn't want to go to the game" doesn't make sense. We all wanted to go to the game- the cost (opportunity + actual) just wasn't worth it for us. It doesn't matter if you're in possession of a ticket or not, the rational way of figuring out if you should or shouldn't go is the exact same: is (the value you place in attending the game)>(the cost of attending the game). That cost includes money you're not getting by putting your tickets on the open market.

If notre dame enforced their resale policy it might be different. But ultimately, what happened is that Georgia fans valued the chance to attend the game at a much higher rate than ND fans.

First of all, economics and ethics are not the same thing. There are things with real value that can't be measured in terms of dollars and cents. Using your framework, nobody should ever donate money to Notre Dame or any other charity because they're making themselves financially worse off without any benefit. Sometimes the right thing to do and the economically advantageous thing to do are different from one another.

To take a step further, even if I conceded that it's okay to sell your tickets way above face value (which I don't), that still doesn't excuse selling them to Georgia fans rather than Notre Dame fans.

It sucks, but you can't realistically blame people for not forgoing $800+ of revenue for the chance to protect 1/80,000th of the stadium. Again, unless you actually attended the game you made the exact same calculation as people who sold their tickets.

Yes, the calculation is the same, but the action isn't. The people that bought and flipped tickets are responsible for a blue and gold seat turning red and black. You and I bear no such responsibility, even if our dollars-and-cents calculation was the same.

 

[RDU Irish]

First of all, economics and ethics are not the same thing. There are things with real value that can't be measured in terms of dollars and cents. Using your framework, nobody should ever donate money to Notre Dame or any other charity because they're making themselves financially worse off without any benefit. Sometimes the right thing to do and the economically advantageous thing to do are different from one another.

To take a step further, even if I conceded that it's okay to sell your tickets way above face value (which I don't), that still doesn't excuse selling them to Georgia fans rather than Notre Dame fans.


Yes, the calculation is the same, but the action isn't. The people that bought and flipped tickets are responsible for a blue and gold seat turning red and black. You and I bear no such responsibility, even if our dollars-and-cents calculation was the same.

Really curious b/c this stone has gone unturned multiple times here - what about the face value seller to UGA fans? Is that somehow more pure? The people that take pride in facilitating the ND experience to some friend, acquaintance or business relationship that they know is a hard core UGA fan? Or any non-ND fan for that matter? Shouldn't the University do the right, and just thing and pay US to go to games if we are passionate enough about the team?

King slippery slope just slipped off the deep end here.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

I brought it up before, but it may have been buried as this thread was getting going on page 1 or 2 and had rapid responses, but I think it's worth repeating to some degree. They should make all tickets have to be registered to the person going to the game through the ticket office. If you purchased tickets and cannot go, you use the ticket seller website to resell the ticket at face value or transfer the name, including fee reimbursement because the new buyer is covering those. At any time you can be asked to present your ticket and that seat must match your ID (for children, parents or whatever). It won't completely cut down on scalping, because whoever's name you transfer it to could be from the opposing team, but it definitely cuts down to people selling out. A ticket should not be an investment to recoup money. It should be a pass to a game for someone to enjoy for a reasonable fee. Sell club memberships like European soccer teams. $25 membership for Notre Dame Football. Get a little card in the mail. Your membership allows you to purchase single game tickets registered in your name. Also season ticket memberships. If you purchase a ticket and cannot go, Notre Dame invalidates your ticket, it goes for sale on the site again, and once someone buys it, they print a new ticket for that person and you receive your money back. If it goes unsold, which it might for Temple or whoever, then you're out of luck. But people will not be buying those tickets in the first place if they cannot go. It lets others get tickets who don't think they ever could. I have friends that don't want to go to games because they don't think they can get tickets due to the sell out streak, not knowing how easy it is to get a ticket to Temple. I think the Europeans are onto something with how they eliminate a large portion of scalping and their ticketing operations. It's something worth considering.

 

[dudexcore]

I brought it up before, but it may have been buried as this thread was getting going on page 1 or 2 and had rapid responses, but I think it's worth repeating to some degree. They should make all tickets have to be registered to the person going to the game through the ticket office. If you purchased tickets and cannot go, you use the ticket seller website to resell the ticket at face value or transfer the name, including fee reimbursement because the new buyer is covering those. At any time you can be asked to present your ticket and that seat must match your ID (for children, parents or whatever). It won't completely cut down on scalping, because whoever's name you transfer it to could be from the opposing team, but it definitely cuts down to people selling out. A ticket should not be an investment to recoup money. It should be a pass to a game for someone to enjoy for a reasonable fee. Sell club memberships like European soccer teams. $25 membership for Notre Dame Football. Get a little card in the mail. Your membership allows you to purchase single game tickets registered in your name. Also season ticket memberships. If you purchase a ticket and cannot go, Notre Dame invalidates your ticket, it goes for sale on the site again, and once someone buys it, they print a new ticket for that person and you receive your money back. If it goes unsold, which it might for Temple or whoever, then you're out of luck. But people will not be buying those tickets in the first place if they cannot go. It lets others get tickets who don't think they ever could. I have friends that don't want to go to games because they don't think they can get tickets due to the sell out streak, not knowing how easy it is to get a ticket to Temple. I think the Europeans are onto something with how they eliminate a large portion of scalping and their ticketing operations. It's something worth considering.

Or, ND could not go 4-8 and people would want to hold on to their tickets and not make some sweet cash.

 

[NDRock]

I brought it up before, but it may have been buried as this thread was getting going on page 1 or 2 and had rapid responses, but I think it's worth repeating to some degree. They should make all tickets have to be registered to the person going to the game through the ticket office. If you purchased tickets and cannot go, you use the ticket seller website to resell the ticket at face value or transfer the name, including fee reimbursement because the new buyer is covering those. At any time you can be asked to present your ticket and that seat must match your ID (for children, parents or whatever). It won't completely cut down on scalping, because whoever's name you transfer it to could be from the opposing team, but it definitely cuts down to people selling out. A ticket should not be an investment to recoup money. It should be a pass to a game for someone to enjoy for a reasonable fee. Sell club memberships like European soccer teams. $25 membership for Notre Dame Football. Get a little card in the mail. Your membership allows you to purchase single game tickets registered in your name. Also season ticket memberships. If you purchase a ticket and cannot go, Notre Dame invalidates your ticket, it goes for sale on the site again, and once someone buys it, they print a new ticket for that person and you receive your money back. If it goes unsold, which it might for Temple or whoever, then you're out of luck. But people will not be buying those tickets in the first place if they cannot go. It lets others get tickets who don't think they ever could. I have friends that don't want to go to games because they don't think they can get tickets due to the sell out streak, not knowing how easy it is to get a ticket to Temple. I think the Europeans are onto something with how they eliminate a large portion of scalping and their ticketing operations. It's something worth considering.

Sounds overly complicated but I'm kind of a moron. Also, doubt ND ever has a $25 club/membership fee after the Kim Dunbar fiasco.

 

[stlnd01]

Really curious b/c this stone has gone unturned multiple times here - what about the face value seller to UGA fans? Is that somehow more pure? The people that take pride in facilitating the ND experience to some friend, acquaintance or business relationship that they know is a hard core UGA fan? Or any non-ND fan for that matter? Shouldn't the University do the right, and just thing and pay US to go to games if we are passionate enough about the team?

King slippery slope just slipped off the deep end here.

I bought tickets through the alumni lottery and sold them at face value to a former coworker of my wife's who is a UGA alum and huge fan. (I've mentioned this a couple times in this thread). He has been talking about it since the game got scheduled, took his dad, bucket-list trip and all, and came away with a great impression of Notre Dame. Told my wife on Sunday he wants his daughters to think about applying there.
We never planned on going, we bought them only for him, b/c he'd helped my wife get a job and wanted to do him a solid. I have no regrets about this. FWIW I've no problem with selling for profit either. It's a free market, and it's just s football ticket. And I've stood and yelled through dozens of games, win and lose, over 20 years, so don't @ me with your "not a real fan" noise.

 

[ulukinatme]

Or, ND could not go 4-8 and people would want to hold on to their tickets and not make some sweet cash.

Or you could just support the team like a real fan.

It was a brand new season and people sold their tickets before they knew what kind of team we had. Saturday we obviously saw good improvements on defense. Offensively we looked like a different team from the week before, but I think it's correctable.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

Or you could just support the team like a real fan.

It was a brand new season and people sold their tickets before they knew what kind of team we had. Saturday we obviously saw good improvements on defense. Offensively we looked like a different team from the week before, but I think it's correctable.

I don't know about you guys, but this season was really the first time since 2012 that I didn't think there was a chance we could win a national championship going into the year. I was still in the stands yelling my brains out, but after we lost my general mood was just like whatever. I don't know if its from coming off an 8 loss season, having Kelly back, or breaking in all the new coaches and QB, but I just don't see us winning it this year or really the forseeable future and because of that I'm just not as emotionally invested as I used to be.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Or you could just support the team like a real fan.

It was a brand new season and people sold their tickets before they knew what kind of team we had. Saturday we obviously saw good improvements on defense. Offensively we looked like a different team from the week before, but I think it's correctable.

You think the offense looked different against Georgia compared to Temple? I wonder why?...

#MagicJohnsontweets

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[ACamp1900]

I'm so glad the season finally started.. remember when we used to scream and bitch at each other over off the field stuff??

 

[gkIrish]

I bought with the intention of using them - you probably glossed over that in your fits of rage. I also bought them knowing if I couldn't use them I would not lose money. I also bought NC State tickets that I now cannot use and likely will take a bath on them. Thought 20 yard line tickets would hold up in value regardless of the opponent but I was wrong. All you cheap, broke folks just want to leach off of those who buy the tickets upfront and refuse to pay market value (unless the market is below face value, then you will brag about it). Local ND fans are spoiled with easy access and cheap tickets and then complain the loudest when they won't pay up for the big game.

Maybe you wouldn't be a "broke 29 year old" if you didn't go to so many expensive away games like Georgia next year and the laundry list you have talked about before. Enjoy it - when you and your friends grow up and have real responsibilities it will be a lot more expensive and harder to coordinate.

4-8 team folks, get a grip

Lol to all this. This whole time I thought you were a season ticket holder but now I see you sold one of the two games you bought. Makes it even worse. You can say whatever you want but it's clear you just jumped at the opportunity to make money regardless of your initial intensions.

Not sure what me going to away games had to do with anything other than you trying to make me look irresponsible. If you think making a few extra dollars on ND makes you a better parent/son/husband....ok.

 

[GowerND11]

Lol to all this. This whole time I thought you were a season ticket holder but now I see you sold one of the two games you bought. Makes it even worse. You can say whatever you want but it's clear you just jumped at the opportunity to make money regardless of your initial intensions.

Not sure what me going to away games had to do with anything other than you trying to make me look irresponsible. If you think making a few extra dollars on ND makes you a better parent/son/husband....ok.

Stahpppp you millennial! He works super hard and doesn't need help from anyone, while you waste your money and have to grow up.